Has anyone ever gone in to a gun store and shot it up? Do you think there is a reason this hasn't happened? What do you think?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:16:31 -0400

The answer is obvious if you are willing to look through any agendas.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2015 7:49 AM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:49:35 -0400

Aside from the one lady shooting her son in the head then herself, I never hear about a gun store shooting. And yet for some reason there are still a number of people that think they can try to rob one. that one blows my mind.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Oct 2 at 2015 8:16 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:16:13 -0400

No. Same reason Cop Bars don't get robbed, and Police stations (inside) are generally safe.

Predators have a very simple rule "The easy prey is the only prey."

Wolves go after slow deer, not fast deer. They expend the MINIMUM energy needed to accomplish their goal.

Therefore "Gun free Zones" are counter to the philosophy of a safe society. Disarming society makes it less safe, not more safe. It's counter-intuitive when dealing with the mentally unstable, criminal, and terrorist elements, which is what causes these unsafe conditions.

Law Abiding Citizens have a very low chance of creating safety concerns. Yes, they do happen, but it is through NEGLIGENCE, which is on par with any other "industrial accident." Think of it like falling off a ladder. Proper training corrects the issue, but mandating that won't fix the issue, because quite honestly, we still have people break their neck from standing on rolling chairs.

The other three categories, which I repeat are Criminal, Terrorist, and Mental Health, must be viewed differently.

Criminal Elements is a Socio-Economic issue. It's been on the decline for 3 decades straight. I can spend hours on this subject, and I can point out EXACTLY where this takes place, but simply put, it's population density (about 5k/sqmile).

Terrorism is based on ideology. Belief system. We're not going to fix that through anything but generational cultural shift and education.

Finally is Mental Health. Not to be blunt, but you cannot account for Crazy. Sane people don't do things like this. And going from Sane to Crazy can happen very quickly, because the human mind is fragile (chemically balanced machine). As this is a medical issue, and it is Rights based, we're not going to fix this with legislation.

Response by SGT David T. made Oct 2 at 2015 8:33 AM

SGT David T. — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:33:55 -0400

Peace through superior firepower. Same thing we do in theater except we call it "hardening the target".

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 2 at 2015 8:51 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:51:31 -0400

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Report: Four people shot at Kansas gun store

Police say the male owner of "She's a Pistol" in Shawnee was killed in botched robbery attempt

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 2 at 2015 8:52 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:52:34 -0400

Former police detective will head to trial on charges he killed gun store owner

Police say a gun shop owner was shot and killed with his own firearm. The DA says the death penalty is on the table as an option.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 2 at 2015 8:53 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:53:37 -0400

Suspect Arrested in Fort Worth Gun Store Murder

Fort Worth police have arrested a man suspected in the shooting death of a gun store clerk earlier this month.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2015 8:57 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:57:45 -0400

Yes. And the one I heard about got shot. There was a police officer in the store and 70 shots were fired before he could put down his coffee. Gunman didn't shoot once...I think like 40-50 rounds hit him.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 2 at 2015 8:57 AM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:57:49 -0400

SFC Michael Hasbun I think he was referring more about someone just going in and shooting it up for the shooting sake and less of failed robberies or known/suspected criminal activity.

Response by SGT William Howell made Oct 2 at 2015 9:45 AM

SGT William Howell — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 09:45:45 -0400

I would love to see one of the family members of these Oregon students sue the school for not allowing them to protect themselves. They should have know that because of other shootings that the students were at risk and they should have either provided protection or allowed the students to protect themselves.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Oct 2 at 2015 10:34 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:34:31 -0400

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jan/12/four-suspects-kansas-gun-shop-shooting-charged