Has a subordinate ever successfully convinced you to change your mind in a disciplinary action. If so, was it a good choice later on?

2014-03-11T22:42:07-04:00

Has a subordinate ever successfully convinced you to change your mind in a disciplinary action. If so, was it a good choice later on? In other words gave you no cause to question your decision.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2014 11:34 PM

2014-03-11T23:34:29-04:00

No one? Ha!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2014 1:46 PM

2014-03-12T13:46:43-04:00

Really guys?

Response by CMSgt Robert Richard made Mar 12 at 2014 3:47 PM

2014-03-12T15:47:25-04:00

No, letter is written first, then we discuss the behavior during counseling.

Response by MAJ Jim Woods made Mar 12 at 2014 4:06 PM

2014-03-12T16:06:06-04:00

I found, early on in my career, that PERCEPTION is a real deal killer. I would say that in about 25% of my experience with UCMJ that perception on both sides is something that needs to be resolved before making any decisions.

Only one case comes to mind that I still worry about did I do the right thing.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Mar 9 at 2016 12:19 PM

2016-03-09T12:19:11-05:00

I had a maintenance troop E-4 back a pickup into a generator on the flightline. Mistake, not a crime. So, counseling, re-do the flightline driver's training CBT, and back in action. Two months later, truck into aircraft air stairs. I pull her in and tell her she's losing the flightline DL, done. She says this will kill her career because she effectively can't do her job if she can't drive on the flightline. So I relent...let her keep the DL, but "Golf Cart only". Not a month later, golf cart into hangar door. Sigh.

Response by SSgt Jeremiah Rathbun made Mar 9 at 2016 9:34 PM

2016-03-09T21:34:09-05:00

I never changed my mind on a decision. Before making a decision, I would make sure to hear all sides of the story, review records for previous problems, confer with MY supervisor for advice and then I would make a decision. Changing your decision shows inconsistency and gives the impression that you can be a push over. If they claim it will ruin their career, then maybe they should have thought about that before. It is their actions alone that put them in such positions.