"Gov. McCrory signs bill allowing National Guard members to conceal carry"

RallyPoint Shared Content — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:43:20 -0400

From: WNCN

RALEIGH, N.C. (WNCN) – Gov. Pat McCrory signed a bill Tuesday aimed at ensuring that National Guard members can protect themselves in the event of an on-duty attack.

McCrory signed HB 371 just after 11 a.m. at the North Carolina National Guard Joint Forces Headquarters in Raleigh. The bill allows National Guard members to carry concealed handguns and also allows victims of terrorist attacks to take out civil lawsuits against those who perpetrated the crime.

“We must fulfill our obligation to protect those who protect us,” Gov. McCrory said. “This law will give the National Guard the tools they need to keep themselves, and the public, safe.”

The bill comes in the wake of the deadly attacks on two military recruit and reserve centers in Chattanooga, Tennessee that killed four Marines and one U.S. Navy sailor on July 16.

http://wncn.com/2015/08/18/gov-mccrory-to-sign-bill-allowing-national-guard-members-to-conceal-carry/

Gov. McCrory signs bill allowing National Guard members to conceal carry

Gov. Pat McCrory signed a bill Tuesday aimed at ensuring that National Guard members can protect themselves in the event of an on-duty attack.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Aug 20 at 2015 1:46 PM

SSG Trevor S. — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:46:35 -0400

Now we just need the same force protection stance for Active Duty service members.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 1:49 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:49:59 -0400

Amen!

Response by SN Greg Wright made Aug 20 at 2015 1:52 PM

SN Greg Wright — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:52:48 -0400

Dear Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines: You're behind the ball on this one. NG's trumped you. Up your game.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 3:27 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:27:21 -0400

Here in MI were able to now as well!! We just can't carry on any federal installations.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 3:31 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:31:01 -0400

Before I was in the military or married to an active duty soldier I worked at a Best Buy not far from Drum. The wives would get more irritated than their husband would be that we didn't offer a military discount. I typically ask if places have a discount but I don't expect it & def don't get upset when it isn't offered.

Response by PFC Kevin Shelbrock made Aug 20 at 2015 4:37 PM

PFC Kevin Shelbrock — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:37:47 -0400

Before I can stand behind this entirely I would need to read the details of the Bill. Like anywhere else in life, if you blindly allow anyone to carry a concealed firearm, even within the military, there is a huge chance that its going to blow up in your face. So unless this only applies to those with CCL's issued as civilians I don't think its the best idea. Be honest, there were soldiers you had that you really wish you could not let them have their service rifle.. let alone carry a sidearm. Also, what additional threat assessment training are these guardsmen receiving?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 6:44 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:44:34 -0400

I wish this was an issue that the NGB would look at other than it being on a state by state basis

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 8:01 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:01:50 -0400

This Bill is very limited in scope as to who can carry on duty and where. In essence, only those CCW permit holders personally authorized by the TAG in writing will be allowed to carry on duty. We have to wait to see who he authorizes to carry first.
If you are in the NCNG or know someone who is, please tell them to read the bill first and not to show up to their armory with a sidearm on them without proper approval.
The article's title is misleading and the article itself is short on substance! Nothing new with media these days.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 8:17 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:17:47 -0400

The Armor Course is now at Ft. Benign. The POI changed drastically in 2007. I went through in 2008 and it was grueling. At the time, the course was very demanding academically and time was limited for little else other than studying. We had three weekends off during the 5 months I was there. I heard they extended the course a couple of weeks to give students more time off.
It was a great program and we learned a hell of allot there. I recommend you go on the Maneuver School's website and familiarize yourself with the info that is on there regarding the course.
You need to be in shape for this school. It is a freaking marathon and you will not get allot asleep if the POI is still the same.
Last thing, see if you can find out the name of a contact in your gaining unit that just went through the school. That is probably the best way to find out about the current program. Good luck!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 8:28 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:28:58 -0400

I attended Armor BOLC in 2008. It was a five month marathon that left little time for anything other than studying and preparing for FTX's. I suggest you take a look at the Maneuver School's website to familiarize yourself with the course and suggestions made by staff there. Also try and contact s peer in your gaining unit that is a recent grad. The recent grads are your best source of information about the course.
Be in shape! It is a physically demanding course due to the long hours.
Congratulations on attending OCS. Good luck!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 9:43 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:43:12 -0400

I have no problem with troops carrying a weapon concealed but what do you do when a by standard or an innocent civilian gets hurt, do we just say tough luck ?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 9:50 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:50:43 -0400

Good.
AGR in MS. are doing so. They were at the range 3-4 wks. ago. The rest are still a NOGO with regard to CCW.
A shame. When I get home I'll be picking up a new sidearm. As much as I may not like it, I'll comply with this law and or the lack thereof.

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Aug 21 at 2015 7:49 AM

CPT Zachary Brooks — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 07:49:07 -0400

"A member of the North Carolina National Guard who has been designated in writing by the Adjutant General, State of North Carolina, who has a concealed handgun permit issued in accordance with Article 54B of this Chapter or considered valid under G.S. 14‑415.24, and is acting in the discharge of his or her official duties, provided that the member does not carry a concealed weapon while consuming alcohol or an unlawful controlled substance or while alcohol or an unlawful controlled substance remains in the member's body."

More information on the policy. Makes me feel a bit better knowing these specifics.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/Sessions/2015/Bills/House/HTML/H371v3.html

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2015 9:27 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:27:21 -0400

I applaud you Governor

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2015 5:04 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:04:24 -0400

Is this bill for both national guard and reserves or just the gaurd

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 3:03 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:03:09 -0400

Better late than .... (just 2cents worth).