Got Selected and work for ARSOF recruiters as part of OJT. Will ATRRS reservation work as orders to not go to JRTC?

2018-08-15T20:16:08-04:00

I got Selected back in June and start the Q course in January. My 1sg is trying to get me to go to JRTC in September for 25 days. He said if I dont show him actual orders for the Q, i will be going to JRTC. Does an ATRRS reservation act in the same way as those orders? Im supposed to be getting PRK surgery as well in the coming weeks. What are the chances of not going to JRTC if im working for OJT (On The Job Training) and on profile because of PRK?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2018 8:26 PM

2018-08-15T20:26:04-04:00

It would be good to know. I would hate to see that your first sergeant trying to Blue Falcon you. I hope you get a correct and proper answer. Congratulations on your selection. That is what Rally Point is for to make sure you get second opinions because I've seen it where they will put a specialist in the sergeant slot to make sure that a sergeant doesn't get promoted. Let me see if I can get some help here.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Aug 15 at 2018 8:40 PM

2018-08-15T20:40:35-04:00

Your best bet will be your profile. Your unit does not have to support OJT. However, violating profile can have significant consequences. An ATTRS slot does not serve the same purpose as actual orders. Technically your 1SG can make you go. I would instead talk to him and explain your time line. If you are to report to 1st SWTG(A) in January, you have to clear your unit before Christmas exodus. Add some leave for PCS, you should be out of your unit sometime in October. Of course leave can be regulated. As a 11B a JRTC rotation can be beneficial prior to going to SUT. Good luck.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Aug 15 at 2018 8:49 PM

2018-08-15T20:49:07-04:00

Didn't your chain of command sign off on the PrK procedure and recovery course of treatment before you could get it?

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Aug 15 at 2018 9:01 PM

2018-08-15T21:01:02-04:00

Unless things have changed OJT is a non biding agreement between your unit’s CoC and the ARSOF Recruiters. In other words they can pull you as they wish. Now, if you already have scheduled PRK prior to the JRTC rotation then you will be limited to an extend; after a few weeks they could (theoretically) take you to FT Polk and keep you in the rear. Seen it before!!!! So, be very diplomatic as you approach this issue. Perhaps you might be able to move your surgery sooner!!!! Also, ATTRS is not a replacement for orders. Best of luck!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2018 9:58 PM

2018-08-15T21:58:04-04:00

Whether you go or not is up to your leadership. Whatever they are willing to accept for proof is what will work.
But you said your date is January, there's no reason you can't go to JRTC in September.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Aug 15 at 2018 10:04 PM

2018-08-15T22:04:26-04:00

You still have 3 months before the Q course, is 25 days going to kill you? Check with PAC/S! not us.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2018 10:31 PM

2018-08-15T22:31:26-04:00

You still have time before you go to your course. I do not see a reason as to why you can not go to JRTC unless it’s due to that PRK which you will be getting soon.
From your post your course starts January, JRTC is in September which still leaves you about 3 months before your course.
I do not see any issue.

Anyway, congrats on getting selected and best of luck to you.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2018 10:44 PM

2018-08-15T22:44:56-04:00

Just go to JRTC? It’s good training regardless if you go to the Q or not.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2018 12:17 PM

2018-08-16T12:17:19-04:00

If the doctor writes you a profile for the PRK surgery, the unit will have to abide by that restriction. I've had buddies that had the PRK done, and they had to wear sunglasses for extended periods + eye drops and all that jazz. You will probably get some limited duty profile, but that doesn't prohibit them from them taking you to JTRC. You'll probably get stuck doing TOC duty, RTO, etc. It all depends on your chain of command.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2018 3:19 PM

2018-08-16T15:19:06-04:00

Having just gotten PRK myself, I would be as tactful as possible but stress the need for as good of a recovery as possible. It is a very busy time with lots of different meds and eye drops that NEED to be followed or your eyesight could be screwed forever. Ensure your CoC truly understands what you will be going through. Some people blow off the profile, but remember, it is the way it is for a reason. The recovery is not easy and being away from home will make it more difficult.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2018 1:08 AM

2018-08-21T01:08:38-04:00

PRK profile "should" stop your JRTC rotation. Since your eyes will be light sensitive and will require at least 6-12 weeks to heal to a point where you can aim and fire your weapon accurately. However, JRTC is a great opportunity to speak with SOF soldiers and listen to their experiences during the Q course. Additionally, going to JRTC will better prepare you for some of the challenges you will face in the Q course. If I was you, I would ask to speak with your 1SG and see if he can help facilitate you meeting some Green Berets while supporting the unit's rotation. If you are just looking for an excuse to get out of JRTC, I would strongly advise you against it. This type of behavior might get around to the SF Cadre and they really don't like individuals who are not team players. Additionally, you might want to review the pros vs. cons of having your PRK surgery prior to the Q course with your doctor.