Got a DUI. What can I do to stay in?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:42:05 -0400

I got DUI. I'm in Germany. it was German Police. Is it different to go through the German coort or will it go to my comander? Need help . What do I do?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2021 9:58 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:58:26 -0400

Reach out to your Trial Defense Services Office for legal advice, talk to your Chaplain, and prepare a statement to your commander. While DUI is a serious case, it's not always a career ender. Unless you're a repeat offender or other factors increase the severity of the incident you likely will stay in.

That said, you are going to face punishment.

Ultimately you can recover from the SGT, you just need to put in the work and show them this mistake will not ruin you, that you own what you did, and that you want to move forward and you want their guidance on moving forward with the Army.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Sep 24 at 2021 9:58 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:58:40 -0400

See JAG, but doubt they can help- this could end any career progression, and now re-up is going to get tougher starting Oct.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2021 10:02 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:02:07 -0400

Well, based on the SOFA agreement, who gets to nail you will be between the Germans and the Army. Honestly, prepare for both. You're gonna lose driving privileges. You're GONNA get an Article 15 and quite possibly a GOMOR. You may lose rank. This is gonna hurt you hard. It should hurt. Take the pain you about to get and move forward.

Other than that....STOP. CEASE. SEEK LAWYER.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2021 10:11 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:11:57 -0400

To add to my previous statement: We are human. We fuck up. It's in our nature. But there are things that we fuck up on that we do, in fact, have control of. Getting a DUI is one of those things. You are a Leader. A Leader of Soldiers. How many damn times have you received a briefing to not drink and drive? How many times have you told your Soldiers not to drink and drive? Normally, this is where I would say something along the lines of "how you gonna look at your Soldiers and tell them not to drink and drive then you go and do it?" This. This right here is now the PERFECT training tool you have to teach your Soldiers on WHY they should NOT do this dumb shit. By no means am I saying that I am free from Sin. I can say that I have learned from the mistakes of my past. Will you be able to do the same? Can you do the same?

Response by LCpl Mike Niemeyer made Sep 24 at 2021 11:15 PM

LCpl Mike Niemeyer — Fri, 24 Sep 2021 23:15:29 -0400

One of my guys did thos back in the day, granted it was state side but he lost rank, 2 months pay, and had 45 days extra duty and 45 days restriction to barracks. As he was married it really hurt cause he had to be on base from 0500 to 2200 everyday and was woken at home every 2 houra just make sure he was there.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2021 4:57 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Sep 2021 04:57:41 -0400

Whether or not you are retained in the Army has a lot to do with your command's (General and Colonel) policy toward DUI. Expect a GOMOR at the least that will affect your future promotions. If you were a SSG right now that would be a QMP notice that absolutely would be the end of your career.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2021 12:23 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 26 Sep 2021 12:23:47 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member send me a message with your number. I am in Germany. As a Battery 1SG I had the misfortune to have Soldiers in my unit receive DUI. We can talk in private about it and I can tell you what happened with each one of those Soldiers.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Sep 28 at 2021 1:25 AM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Tue, 28 Sep 2021 01:25:46 -0400

You got a DUI from the Polizei? Dude how drunk were you? I remember from my time in Germany, Federal Republic of, that you had to be nearly passed out or driving so dangerously....
Just.....Damn...
And I gotta ask, What, no Safety Briefing that Friday at last formation?

Scream it from the rooftop...No Driving if you been drinking, even just one drink.