Posted on Oct 2, 2015
‘Good Guy With A Gun’ Was On UCC Campus At Time Of Massacre
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I just read an article that stated that a student on scene at this shooting had a concealed weapon. I have always wondered where the "good guy with a gun" mantra would be realized in an actual incident. There are many things to consider. In the heat of the moment the good guy might miss and actually end up killing innocent people. The good guy might be mistaken for the bad guy and cause people to flee in the direction of the attacker. But the other scenario that worries me most is the probability of the good guy being confused for the bad guy by responding Officers or SWAT and losing his or her life in the process. It turns out that this was the exact calculus that prevented this individual from attempting to try to shoot this killer.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/02/3708410/good-guy-with-gun-was-on-ucc-campus-at-time-of-massacre/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/10/02/3708410/good-guy-with-gun-was-on-ucc-campus-at-time-of-massacre/
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The good guy with a gun argument is tricky.
It's the armed force deterrent philosophy. Or "Show of Force" concept. Cop Bars & Gun Stores don't get robbed. Generally banks in states with concealed carry don't get robbed. Because CRIMINALS, repeat CRIMINALS have a minimal amount of intelligence and don't want to get killed.
This goes back to my point on the other threads. Mass Shooters are not "Criminals" but people with Mental Health issues or those prescribing to an Ideology (Terrorism). In more simple terms, you can't account for Crazy. We're sane, and we cannot "translate" what logic crazy folks use.
There have been shootings where off-duty cops took people down. There have also been LOTS of armed citizen reports stopping robberies. And that's before we get into "de-escalations" and Defensive Gun Usages. The issue is VERY complex, and Mother Jones is downplaying it by cherry-picking the "Mass Shooting" subset.
It's the armed force deterrent philosophy. Or "Show of Force" concept. Cop Bars & Gun Stores don't get robbed. Generally banks in states with concealed carry don't get robbed. Because CRIMINALS, repeat CRIMINALS have a minimal amount of intelligence and don't want to get killed.
This goes back to my point on the other threads. Mass Shooters are not "Criminals" but people with Mental Health issues or those prescribing to an Ideology (Terrorism). In more simple terms, you can't account for Crazy. We're sane, and we cannot "translate" what logic crazy folks use.
There have been shootings where off-duty cops took people down. There have also been LOTS of armed citizen reports stopping robberies. And that's before we get into "de-escalations" and Defensive Gun Usages. The issue is VERY complex, and Mother Jones is downplaying it by cherry-picking the "Mass Shooting" subset.
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There's also the possibility that the good guy kills the bad guy before he can kill any more innocents.
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Just because someone has a CHL doesn't necessarily mean they have training. There were a lot of people in my CHL class that I was of the opinion that they needed more training.
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