God and Political Correctness: Where do you stand?

I too agree and I served in defense of the nation my religious preferences were my choice and my alone. I never heard God say Private go take that hill though some people thought they were god.

I agree that we get offended too easily.

On the other hand, why would you want to alienate ANY potential recruit with your recruiting efforts?

MSgt Mike Mikulski, I can't speak for everyone MSG, but I think the issue is why does a personal, private matter need to be used as a selling point? Because it is an effective way to manipulate something entirely unrelated in any way to their product. A better question is why can't the military sell itself on its own merits and not target emotion?

In response to your question, I think it's equally true that part of free speech is recognizing that what one makes public, whether that be religious views, sexual preference, etc, is no longer private because of their own choice, not someone intruding. Take something on the other side of the debate, like abortion, if you don't agree it should be advertised in public as an option available to women (and I'm not saying it's what you believe, just an example), would you still let it go, move on, and leave those who think it's an individual choice without arguing?

Anyway wasn't trying to say you're wrong, I think there probably is a god of some sort, I just think it's questionable whether it should be mixed with a government agency as a selling point... especially one which was founded on not christianity or any other religion, but the freedom to choose your own way. If the government is clearly biased towards one religion, it kind of makes that a less genuine brand of freedom. Just something to think about, have a good day MSG.

Beliefs exist in your brain. So long as they stay there, I doubt anyone will take issue. But belief tends to get acted upon and verbalized, and at that point it intrudes upon the lives of others. The world would be a much better place if people kept their beliefs where they belong..

Did it cost more to add the word God to the poster? No. All inclusive? Yes. If not for God, then for country. Is anyone upset that it didn't say "family" or "freedom?" They should be. Then again, it's just a poster. It's a piece of paper that the mass majority has to tiptoe around in order not to anger the minority. Yet, we still do. You tolerate us, we placate you.

The crux of the issue is that some firmly believe that tax dollars are being used for religion. Truth is, it is being used for recruitment. While you hate God(s), 95% of us the rest of us fools do not. It's marketing and nothing more. No hidden agenda. Not promoting anything more than "join and serve."

We go out of our way to appease Athiests and other forms of non believer. We just don't tolerate you. We don't think less of you (at least I don't) because you don't share any religious belief. That's my point. We (believers) don't hate your principles. So why hate ours? Athiest hate religion and think less of those who believe. Believers, by design, don't hate.

Do Athiest hate holding and spending cash? Does it cost more to print "in God we Trust" on the dollar bill? Or maybe, it's just a word. The Treaury is not printing bills with the intent to infringe on your right to not believe. It's merely tradition and nothing more.

SGT Mick F. - I think you believe my views are that based on any one political party. Not quite so. My views are based on our historical foundation, the principles of which our country was founded upon, and good old fashion military tradition. This country was founded by those who believed in the Christian faith. The Middle East was founded on the Muslim faith. It is history...nothing more. More so, the word God is not synonymous with one faith. God, for the sake of argument, is merely one given name for the entity that most religions believe in.

The be clear, the media exploded when the first gay professional athlete came out. It was news. It was a media spectacle. Personally, it does not bother me who chooses to love who. However, the media spurred Tebow for praying on the field. Was it much? Maybe. His "celebrations" were no different than any other football player who celebrates on the field. Except, it was tied to God. Indifference and tolerance is a one-way street nowadays.

LBGT is not discrimination based on religion. It is offensive to others based on family values. It is off-centered based on the natural order of humanity. In order to continue to populate our existence, man and woman must mate. It's biology and nothing more. It was how nature intended us to mate. Simply because we choose differently does not make us progressive.

The bottom line is, if I am expected to accept LBGT and atheists within the ranks, then it is fair to except God within the ranks. Equality right? Sure. I am up for it and I embrace it. I just want it to be fair for all sides - not just the left-side nor the ride-side.

I am still waiting for those who love to stir up unnecessary drama over the word God to start an uprising over the fact that our currency is laced with, "in God we trust." I presume we should chance that to satisfy the 5%.

It was mentioned: "If all are represented then fine (Theists and Atheists alike). But our tax dollars should still not be going to such a thing. Our money can be spent better elsewhere."

When $6.8 billion of our tax dollars are going to build an Islamic Army and Police Force in Afghanistan; does having GOD on a recruitment poster really matter???

Actually SGT Jinger Jarrett please see the published, peer reviewed, scientific evidence for homosexuality.
http://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/5957271

http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/1778227

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S [login to see] 00688
Y MAJ(P) (Join to see) Christians are the Majority, the majority in congress, on the Supreme Court, in the whitehouse (we have yet to see a Jewish or atheist president) and an overwhelming majority in overall population in this country, so I don't fully understand where you get off saying that Christian are being discriminated against. The minorities - every other religion or non-believing group, would like equality, fair treatment and respect that they deserve solely for being human. Why is it discrimination to turn someone away for the color of their skin, but not because you don't believe the same way?
Mirriam Webster defines discrimination as this: "treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination."

Your comment, by far and wide, is my favorite. As a civilian, I salute you, sir!

SGT Antonio Davis I agree with you, but how does one give everyone equal opportunities instead of equal results? Many of the Affirmative Action programs we have now will bolster less than ideal candidates at a point where if they have not learned or developed, they will not.

I was actually born into a military family and Dad was successful from his own hard work which is what he taught me. I have never had anything handed to me and have worked hard in all aspects of my life. If I have received opportunities because of my race or gender they have not been obvious, since even with my hard work I continue to struggle while I see others who do not work hard (due to connections, or other unknown factors) that succeed easier than me.

I have heard an interesting idea to increase school choices and affirmative action at the younger ages to help make more opportunities equal. This will give all people equal chances if they plan to work for them.

Any ideas in the same realm?

SGT Jinger Jarrett

Those are each individual categories, you still fall into three of the four. It is not fault with the way I am born or the way people treat me, but I do strive to try to be equal for all people and their choices, even if I do not agree with them. I do not understand people who complain about my being privileged and telling me I should give up things just because I was born a certain way. We need to learn to accept each other's differences and understand that people make choices we may not like, but it is still their choice to make.

I believe P.C. is a crock. When I was born I got to meet my father for the first time I could remember through prison bars. My mother was a junkie who drug me from place to place. We would live in a hotel until we got kicked out and move on to the next one. She bailed on me when I was 13. I was successful in the military because I wanted it more and worked harder. I got in on a GED. Was honer recruit out of boot. Graduated top of my class in tech school. Made rank and led my own squad in various combat zones. Where was my white privilege?