CPO Nate S. 8526476 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So, I was chatting with some folks and they have been following groups like:<br /><br />&gt; No Labels (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.nolabels.org/our-ideas">https://www.nolabels.org/our-ideas</a>), <br /><br />&gt; Andrew Yang and the Forward Party (<a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Party_(United_States)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Party_(United_States)</a>#), <br /><br />&gt; Robert Kennedy Jr. (<a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr._2024_presidential_campaign#%20Democratic%20nomination">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr._2024_presidential_campaign#%20Democratic%20nomination</a>).<br /><br />It is interesting how many people are seriously thinking about independent candidates. It is also interesting the number if so-called Independents in the 118th Congress and historically: <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_members_of_the_United_States_Congress">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_members_of_the_United_States_Congress</a>.<br /><br />The math is interesting:<br /><br />&gt; So, of 435 members 40% = 174/175 so called independents.<br /><br />&gt; This leaves 261 either (D) or (R) and if we assume a 50/50 split then each would have 130/130 each.<br /><br />&gt; That means to get to 218 for say speaker this means that ONLY 44 votes are needed.<br /><br />&gt; This then means if 174 (I&#39;s) voted as a block then it would take 44 (R&#39;s) or 44 (D&#39;s) to get consensus on say a Speaker, that is the I&#39;s were truly INDEPENDENT (Humm!) <br /><br />But, this math is wishful thinking.......<br /><br />What are the thoughts of the RP Family? Is 2024 going to punish both (D&#39;s) and (R&#39;s) in favor of more (I&#39;s) so that the nation can move forward with real debate. <br /><br />These are real discussion the nation needs to have in a tactful yet honest manner. <br /><br />As always please be respectfull of those that may not share your own views. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/834/370/qrc/data"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.nolabels.org/our-ideas)">No Labels</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">A national movement of people who believe in America and in bringing our leaders together to solve our toughest problems.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Given the US House's "confusion" should Veterans vote for Independents in 2024? 2023-10-24T19:27:19-04:00 CPO Nate S. 8526476 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So, I was chatting with some folks and they have been following groups like:<br /><br />&gt; No Labels (<a target="_blank" href="https://www.nolabels.org/our-ideas">https://www.nolabels.org/our-ideas</a>), <br /><br />&gt; Andrew Yang and the Forward Party (<a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Party_(United_States)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Party_(United_States)</a>#), <br /><br />&gt; Robert Kennedy Jr. (<a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr._2024_presidential_campaign#%20Democratic%20nomination">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr._2024_presidential_campaign#%20Democratic%20nomination</a>).<br /><br />It is interesting how many people are seriously thinking about independent candidates. It is also interesting the number if so-called Independents in the 118th Congress and historically: <a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_members_of_the_United_States_Congress">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_and_independent_members_of_the_United_States_Congress</a>.<br /><br />The math is interesting:<br /><br />&gt; So, of 435 members 40% = 174/175 so called independents.<br /><br />&gt; This leaves 261 either (D) or (R) and if we assume a 50/50 split then each would have 130/130 each.<br /><br />&gt; That means to get to 218 for say speaker this means that ONLY 44 votes are needed.<br /><br />&gt; This then means if 174 (I&#39;s) voted as a block then it would take 44 (R&#39;s) or 44 (D&#39;s) to get consensus on say a Speaker, that is the I&#39;s were truly INDEPENDENT (Humm!) <br /><br />But, this math is wishful thinking.......<br /><br />What are the thoughts of the RP Family? Is 2024 going to punish both (D&#39;s) and (R&#39;s) in favor of more (I&#39;s) so that the nation can move forward with real debate. <br /><br />These are real discussion the nation needs to have in a tactful yet honest manner. <br /><br />As always please be respectfull of those that may not share your own views. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/834/370/qrc/data"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.nolabels.org/our-ideas)">No Labels</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">A national movement of people who believe in America and in bringing our leaders together to solve our toughest problems.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Given the US House's "confusion" should Veterans vote for Independents in 2024? 2023-10-24T19:27:19-04:00 2023-10-24T19:27:19-04:00 MSG Stan Hutchison 8526492 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Everyone, not just Veterans, should vote for whom ever their hearts and/or their brains tell them to vote for. However, since, IMO, there is no chance for an Independent to get elected to the Presidency, I feel it would be a waste of a vote. So, other than make one feel good, it will not accomplish much in the election of a President. Besides, I do not believe the &quot;Independent&quot; label on most politicians. That just usually means they lost the support of their previous party. Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Oct 24 at 2023 7:49 PM 2023-10-24T19:49:31-04:00 2023-10-24T19:49:31-04:00 CPT Lawrence Cable 8527401 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It&#39;s not confusion. The very Populous Party members revolted against a Speaker that tried to cut a deal without informing them. Now the old school members, the RINO&#39;s fir no better word, are trying to stop any of the Popular not old school Republicans from getting the Office, a lot of the reason is that there is about a 50/50 chance whomever gets picked could end up President. The &quot;Moderates&quot; are generally Washington Insiders that are getting more and more out of touch with the rest of the party. Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Oct 25 at 2023 12:10 PM 2023-10-25T12:10:31-04:00 2023-10-25T12:10:31-04:00 2023-10-24T19:27:19-04:00