Getting chaptered in ait due to apft failure?

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:22:45 -0400

So i hurt my arm during ait and being afraid of getting recycled I decided not to get it checked out and that i would do my pt tests. I thought since i passed the first one i can pass the second one. Long story short i am being chaptered. Will i be able to reenlist if it goes through? I have completed my ait training and have been nothing but a upstanding soldier, would that affect the kimd of discharge or is my future boned

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 1:32 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:32:01 -0400

Let's see what some of these ncos have to say. CSM Charles Hayden SSG(P) James J. Palmer IV aka "JP4" SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL

I hope your injury is documented as part of your discharge. What does the medical board say about your injury?

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Sep 24 at 2018 1:51 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:51:43 -0400

Have you thought of going to the hospital to check it out now? They might afford you mitigating circumstances.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Sep 24 at 2018 2:50 PM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:50:26 -0400

How are you getting chaptered for failing the second one? Didn't you get a retest option? Did you fail that one?

I failed the first APFT in AIT because I sucked at situps. My retest was graduation morning...I passed. I have heard of people who failed the last one in basic and got to retest but didn't get to walk since it was after graduation.

Response by SFC Steven Borders made Sep 24 at 2018 7:12 PM

SFC Steven Borders — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:12:21 -0400

Wait, so you completed AIT Training, so how are you being chaptered out. You should be sent to your duty station. And if you have a passing first one why did you take the second one? I only remember taking one PT test in AIT. So, I am a little confused. Where are you doing AIT at Ft. Lee?

Response by SGT Javier Silva made Sep 24 at 2018 7:33 PM

SGT Javier Silva — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 19:33:32 -0400

PVT Private RallyPoint Member - Please provide further information to the questions posed here. We can't really help without more information.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 9:57 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:57:14 -0400

For future reference, always report your injuries. If you’re not FMC it’s for the best that everyone knows and that you go through the proper process to get it fixed. You had good intentions, but you ultimately hurt overall readiness.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2018 10:03 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:03:15 -0400

You should have taken the recycle (if it even came to that). Getting injured and not getting it checked out...that decision has now bit you in your six hard. Surprised they are chaptering you, but......your ability to reenlist after the Chapter will be determined by what type of discharge you are given and what kind of re-entry code you are classified in. Then there is the factor of finding a recruiter that will work with you in regards to your injury and any medical waivers you may need. I hope you have now learned at least one lesson and went to sick call to get your arm checked out.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Sep 24 at 2018 11:24 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:24:07 -0400

1. How could you complete your AIT with out passing the AFPT? 2. After you admitted being injured- did they have you see the medics? 3. How many times did you try a remedial AFPT? 4. Long story short your story stinks. 5, It will depend on the type chapter and re code as to whether or not you can try again.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2018 12:43 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 12:43:16 -0400

That's quite a shame. I graduated AIT in Ft Lee about a year ago and there were a handful of people who couldn't pass their second PT test, but the final test is taken about three weeks BEFORE graduation and they make all the failures keep taking it until graduation day. Go to the TMC and get that arm checked out. If the medics think it's bad you may be able to talk to your Plt Sgt and convince them to get you a re-take.
Otherwise if they say no, you will be chaptered out but you can definitely re-enlist as long as you haven't gotten any article 15s or anything like that. You will not receive a dishonorable discharge so do not worry.
I wish you the best, take it easy.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Sep 25 at 2018 6:04 PM

SSG Brian G. — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 18:04:30 -0400

There is more to this than you are telling. Basic and AIT are training and not a PP duty station. You fail one PT test, ok, you can then retake it later. A chapter only occurs for fitness related activities after there has been multiple failures. IE you fail one, you then fail a second and are flagged. You then fail another and a fourth. You do not get chaptered off of one failure.

How bad was this injury to your arm? Was it something that would turn up on a physical examination?

What is the chapter code that you are being chaptered on? Your discharge should be honorable as you have to this point, not stated anything dishonorable. It all depends on what is noted for your RE code. You may have to get some waivers.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 25 at 2018 9:38 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:38:58 -0400

If u get an re3 code its very difficult. Chaptered out if nearly impossible because it the army basically telling you cannot be a soldier, it suck i know

Response by SFC Cynthia Eyer made Jun 14 at 2019 1:08 PM

SFC Cynthia Eyer — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 13:08:24 -0400

PVT Washington,
Your AIT is only nine weeks. Army regulation states that if, during any time you attend AIT and take an APFT for record, if that test is passed, no other test is required if school is under one year. There are exceptions for 6 months under certain MOSs. 92G is not one of them.
I cannot guide you because there is obviously more to this than you are telling.
Good luck with that.