For anyone who recently transferred guard to army active, did you get to keep your sergeant rank?

2016-03-10T04:50:53-05:00

The recruiter told me I would because I've been in for five years but I don't go to BLC (WLC) until July and we all know recruiters like to fib

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2016 6:05 AM

2016-03-10T06:05:07-05:00

I have not made the transfer, but I would recommend scrutinizing the paperwork. It should be spelled out in there what rank you will be.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2016 7:20 AM

2016-03-10T07:20:48-05:00

Exactly what Sfc John Long said, pay attention to your contract and make sure it says you will coming in as a SGT.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Mar 10 at 2016 7:22 AM

2016-03-10T07:22:02-05:00

The reason you are keeping your rank is because the current USAREC Business Rules. That document spells out under what conditions a prior service can be accessed back into the Regular Army.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2016 9:07 AM

2016-03-10T09:07:14-05:00

Thanks all

Response by SFC Stephen King made Mar 10 at 2016 10:01 AM

2016-03-10T10:01:48-05:00

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member Prior Service enlistment's are always changing look at the USAREC messages and I would also recommend going to the AR. AR 601-210.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2016 10:06 AM

2016-03-10T10:06:57-05:00

A friend of mine had 15 years active, was a reservist on a CONUS mob got promoted to SFC, talked with a recruiter about going back active and they would only take him if he would drop a rank to SSG, not sure if MOS had anything to do with it or what, but he refused to go, I would have dropped the rank in an instant since he only needed 5 more years to get a full retirement.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2016 1:01 PM

2016-03-10T13:01:41-05:00

If the recruiter told you that you would, it will be in your contract.

If it's not in your contract, entering as pay grade E-5, then....it will have something else. And you can balk and have that corrected if it happens.

That's all the recruiter can do.

So again, check your contract.

Response by SSG Patrick Murphy made Mar 10 at 2016 3:47 PM

2016-03-10T15:47:51-05:00

See what he has to say and then get it in writing. If it isn't in the contract you are going to sign, then question your recruiter and don't sign if he can't/won't put it in writing.

Response by SFC Rapfeal Mayfield made Mar 10 at 2016 3:55 PM

2016-03-10T15:55:47-05:00

When you do change to active, just ensure that it is in writing in your contract.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2016 7:23 PM

2016-03-10T19:23:17-05:00

I am not a recruiter, but from what I can tell, your MOS is not identified in the current business rules, and you do not meet the NCOES requirement for E-5, as you have not completed BLC yet. So according to the current business rules (http://m.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/current-and-prior-service/continue-serving/active-duty/prior-service-business-rules.m.html), I would probably guess that The recruiter is planning on you reclassing. I would read that contract very carefully.

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Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2016 12:40 AM

2016-03-11T00:40:26-05:00

I was never a Guard or Reservist but back in 2010 I had this SSG which is (SFC now soon to be retired), in my unit he told me when he transferred from Guard to Active he was then SFC and he was knocked down to SGT.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 11:01 AM

2016-03-12T11:01:38-05:00

There is a lot that actually goes into this. If your job is not on the ps business rules then you won't be coming in. The PS business rules outline everything. Honestly best chance you have of going. Active duty is taking a rank deduction from your unit and being able to reclass as long as you have less then 36 months active federal service time.

Response by SSgt Boyd Herrst made Jul 16 at 2017 6:29 PM

2017-07-16T18:29:18-04:00

For sure, don't rely on the he said/they said becaus it's all scuttlebutt as the sailors are won't to say..

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 21 at 2017 10:21 AM

2017-07-21T10:21:39-04:00

About a year ago I inquired if i could keep my Staff Sgt. Rank if I went active the only thing I could find for sure was if your N. C. O. School was the same legth as active duty I could keep my rank. But Obama killed that with his budget cuts. At least in my National Guard Unit . Unfortanately each is different. I had to get buddy buddy with a Jag Officer .

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2018 3:08 PM

2018-10-12T15:08:16-04:00

Don't forget to remove the Guard/State awards from your ribbon rack.