For a release run in Army PRT, do you call running cadences or not?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:50:09 -0400

I was told by people who outrank me that you cannot call cadence in a release run. I've researched fm 7-22 and Tc 3-21.5 to find out why and couldn't find anything about cadence calling. Why wouldn't you call running cadences? It does consist of a formation run. Anyone have any logic or proof that would support cadence calling vs not?

Response by SGT Alan Dike made Sep 18 at 2016 5:52 PM

SGT Alan Dike — Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:52:53 -0400

General guidance we always received was no cadence on ability groups, which is what a release run ends up being..

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2016 6:07 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:07:30 -0400

A release run is well just that and they are not in formation and are no in a large group to make the calling of cadence's unnecessary and impractical. Cadences are called in formation runs to keep the formation together and in step.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 18 at 2016 6:45 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:45:24 -0400

Let me clarify...I am ONLY talking about the first half of the release run which is the formation run.

Response by SFC J Fullerton made Sep 19 at 2016 12:38 PM

SFC J Fullerton — Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:38:48 -0400

Who is in charge of the PRT session? That person is in charge of the formation until the formation is released. At a minimum, the person in charge should keep the formation in step by cadence call, whether its a silent cadence and not actually "singing" cadence, until the formation is "released". If somebody out ranking you is telling you otherwise, comply, then ask to meet later to clarify with the reg and to tactfully explain that when you are placed in charge of PRT, you are calling cadence while the unit is in formation. If that is not acceptable to those who outrank you, then kindly offer them the opportunity to lead PT in your stead.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 19 at 2016 12:48 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Sep 2016 12:48:36 -0400

Well, a release run is an individual event, so cadence calling isn't exactly normal. But if I'm having a rough morning, or one of my buddies is struggling, occasionally we'll call cadence to keep us motivated and keep our minds off of the suck. Just my $0.02

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Sep 22 at 2016 11:18 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:18:23 -0400

Logic may be in that the intent is for Soldiers to move out at their own pace for a certain distance providing them the freedom to breath and run as swiftly and efficiently as possible, hopefully improving their stamina. I personally would not have approved a small group to run organized during such a run as it defies the intent. However, I am but one man.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2022 6:38 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 30 Jan 2022 18:38:55 -0500

Well you can on the first portion of the run up to a maximum of 15 mins before the soldiers run at their pace bc a RR( Release Run ) is a combination of unit cohesion and integrity plus individual soldier ability. The formation runs for a specified amount of time no more than 15 mins together then at their own pace back to the starting point, so if it’s during that time before each soldier speeds up to run at their own pace it’s fine. It can be referenced in FM 7-22. I’m only giving knowledge based off what I read and understood not an expert.