Posted on Nov 12, 2015
‘Elite’ military units: Army Rangers. I just read a soldier didn't have to go to Ranger School to be a Ranger. Is that true?
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This is from this article written by an Ex-Ranger. Some of the things he has written are confusing to me. Yesterday at our Veterans Day lunch I met a guy, wearing a leather vest with all of the Ranger tabs and the pins and buttons associated with the 75th Rangers. He said he was a LRRP, and got assigned to a Ranger unit, but never went to Ranger school. He said it was more like OJT. He didn't have Jump Wings. He did have the three medals a Vietnam veteran received, plus an Air Medal, but said he rarely flew in a helicopter, and when he did it was an H-13 scout helicopter.
For all of you Rangers out there, I'm asking if this guy could be for real or is an embellisher. He had a book written by a "friend" about his tour with the Rangers. It was inscribed to this guy and he showed us a page in the book, with, he says is his picture. lt was black and white, and faded. The guy he showed us was supposed to be him, didn't look anything like him. He talked a lot about his tour. He said their AO was in AnKhe. I got suspicious when he didn't answer some questions I asked about AnKhe. I hope I'm wrong. He seemed like a nice guy.
From the authors article:
Some who did serve in Ranger units never attended Ranger School and some who graduated from Ranger School, like me, never served in a Ranger unit. Ranger School graduation is not a prerequisite for serving in a Ranger unit, but it is a prerequisite for serving in a leadership position in a Ranger unit.
The Link:
http://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/65802307-elite-military-units-army-rangers
For all of you Rangers out there, I'm asking if this guy could be for real or is an embellisher. He had a book written by a "friend" about his tour with the Rangers. It was inscribed to this guy and he showed us a page in the book, with, he says is his picture. lt was black and white, and faded. The guy he showed us was supposed to be him, didn't look anything like him. He talked a lot about his tour. He said their AO was in AnKhe. I got suspicious when he didn't answer some questions I asked about AnKhe. I hope I'm wrong. He seemed like a nice guy.
From the authors article:
Some who did serve in Ranger units never attended Ranger School and some who graduated from Ranger School, like me, never served in a Ranger unit. Ranger School graduation is not a prerequisite for serving in a Ranger unit, but it is a prerequisite for serving in a leadership position in a Ranger unit.
The Link:
http://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-blog-about-military-matters/65802307-elite-military-units-army-rangers
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Posted 9 y ago
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In the Corps we don't have these kind of problems. We are just all of us and everyone a MARINE.
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Look up Gary Linder on FB, He's the " Go to" guy about all things Ranger
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http://www.75thrra.com/history/c75_hx.html
Lotsa good info here on the Ranger site below ...
I have family in nearly every war dating way back. My grandfather, William C. Walz Sr. is 101st Airborne in WW II, his son was a Ranger in Vietnam. :) In fact, after watching a special on Vietnam I thought I would come see what I could find on either of them here on the net out of curiosity ...
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Lotsa good info here on the Ranger site below ...
I have family in nearly every war dating way back. My grandfather, William C. Walz Sr. is 101st Airborne in WW II, his son was a Ranger in Vietnam. :) In fact, after watching a special on Vietnam I thought I would come see what I could find on either of them here on the net out of curiosity ...
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This history deals with the activities, personnel, and accomplishments of Company C (Ranger), 75th infantry during the period 1 February 1969 through October 1971, and Company E (Long Range Patrol) 20th Infantry (Airborne) from 25 September 1967 through 1 February 1969 which preceeded the designation of Company C (Ranger), 75th Infantry.
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Yes he could have been telling the truth. Although, he should not consider himself a "Ranger". I was recruited by Co K (Rangers) 75th Inf first shirt from 4th ID replacement company. I was not a Ranger nor Airborne. I was an 11F40 Shake and Bake. After a few weeks of burning shit and enduring traditional leg harassment I went to Camp Radcliff Co K (Ranger) 75th Inf RECONDO PREPRATORY COURSE. I was the Honor Graduate beating out several Rangers on 31 July 1970. My certificate is signed by Cpt. Larry E. Penley. Then I went on several LRRP, Radio Relay... missions. So yes your friend could be telling the truth.
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SGT Bryce Mahoney
Tab is a school. Scroll is a way of life. Anybody that says any different can suck it.
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Melissa Rene
What I think SGT Paul Mackay meant was initially the 75th Rgt (website: 75thrrea.com) it literally was OTJ training and here's a link to their website: ... http://www.75thrra.com/history/c75_hx.html
This history deals with the activities, personnel, and accomplishments of Company C (Ranger), 75th infantry during the period 1 February 1969 through October 1971, and Company E (Long Range Patrol) 20th Infantry (Airborne) from 25 September 1967 through 1 February 1969 which preceeded the designation of Company C (Ranger), 75th Infantry.
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Sorry Bro took the hand me downs from my fathers father went and did the job required Never having accepted the "SCROLL" but the Take away from my training was Paragraph 1-1 of the Manual Leadership as for me Worldwide and a I kept the Spirit of Rogers and Merrill alive...laffs and farts in your general Direction... C/51 F Company if you want my lineage and honors....
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This guy reminds me of Ryan Payne. I actually served with him in my LRS company. He never went to Ranger School but did deploy as a scout. He would go on to tell people he was a Ranger and then got busted for doing that. If you had a pick of this guy it would help. But that Air Medal really has be thinking.
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SGT (Join to see)
This guy is the best I can do. His name is Ray Allen. He's from Pasadena, Texas, I think. Do you recognize the two patches on his vest.
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