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Is there a program that allows service members an early out? Since there is a big push to remove a whole bunch of us wouldn't this be the most effective way to o it. Instead of a long drawn out QMP or APFT/HTWT failure attrition?
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SGT Brooks,
I've been asking some of the same questions. It would certainly make sense to offer a program like this, especially in light of many soldiers' paper work being pencil whipped, as I've seen so many times, in order to keep them in regardless of certain shortfalls and disqualifying conditions. It happens, and those of us who have been meeting the standard are being drawn down because of RCP (prior service to be exact) when we're more than capable of doing our jobs, and meet the standards! If you want to put us out, offer us some kind of incentive at least, don't just dump us because of time constraints. (RCP is a whole package for discussion in and of itself). Just my humble $.02 worth.
I've been asking some of the same questions. It would certainly make sense to offer a program like this, especially in light of many soldiers' paper work being pencil whipped, as I've seen so many times, in order to keep them in regardless of certain shortfalls and disqualifying conditions. It happens, and those of us who have been meeting the standard are being drawn down because of RCP (prior service to be exact) when we're more than capable of doing our jobs, and meet the standards! If you want to put us out, offer us some kind of incentive at least, don't just dump us because of time constraints. (RCP is a whole package for discussion in and of itself). Just my humble $.02 worth.
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I know it's been done in the past. After Desert Storm they were actually paying folks to leave early (VSI and SSB programs). It wouldn't surprise me if they brought them back, or at least opened up limited early outs in the future.
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SPC Matthew Hawthorne
I dont think that is going to happen with Obama in the seat they are going to try and kick people out of the army since there is a democratic house.....When the republicans get back in I think they will raise troops back up to normal and the older ones that have over 20 years will be paid to get out
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MSG(P) Michael Warrick
It is not bad option as to those that may want to take a early out and retirement
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I think for the Army, it may be a good time to revisit a tool we had several years back, where if a Soldier was barred from reenlistment (by their local commander), they could request voluntary separation if they didn't think they could meet the criteria to overcome the bar. Note that it was a voluntary separation request, so they wouldn't be receiving separation pay. I believe there would be a fair percentage of soldiers that would request that and therefore contribute to the overall end-strength reductions.
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Yes...but you must meet the criteria.
Enlisted Voluntary Early Separation Program
The Enlisted Voluntary Early Separation Program authorizes commanders to approve early separation prior to contractual ETS for Army enlisted Soldiers...
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SGM Quick,
Do you know where I can find an example of the 4187 requesting early out to accept employment? I want to get the verbage correct when I do this.
Do you know where I can find an example of the 4187 requesting early out to accept employment? I want to get the verbage correct when I do this.
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The Air Force has one so you guys should as well. But our numbers are smaller and it was a huge cluster so who knows.
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