Dust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi - is this just the "fog of war"? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-42607"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fdust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Dust+storm%2C+car+bombs+and+confusion%3A+Inside+the+Battle+for+Ramadi+-+is+this+just+the+%22fog+of+war%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fdust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ADust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi - is this just the &quot;fog of war&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="c59c7cf6201b003dd33bb1d8c2d651dc" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/042/607/for_gallery_v2/dust_storm.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/042/607/large_v3/dust_storm.jpg" alt="Dust storm" /></a></div></div>It began with that dust storm, which enabled militants to launch a wave of suicide bomb attacks at a moment when the city streets were shrouded in orange haze.<br /><br />Iraqi troops had limited visibility and feared their American ally's capability to provide air cover might be compromised. The initial attack targeted Ramadi's governing center, where the Iraqi army maintained a heavily fortified headquarters.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/21/ramadi-battle/27721581/">http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/21/ramadi-battle/27721581/</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/014/491/qrc/635678197103549916-473973560.jpg?1443042702"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/21/ramadi-battle/27721581/">Dust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The military&#39;s top officer summed up the recent collapse of the Ramadi like this: &quot;The [Iraqi Security Force] was not driven out of Ramadi, they</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Sat, 23 May 2015 09:55:21 -0400 Dust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi - is this just the "fog of war"? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-42607"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fdust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Dust+storm%2C+car+bombs+and+confusion%3A+Inside+the+Battle+for+Ramadi+-+is+this+just+the+%22fog+of+war%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fdust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ADust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi - is this just the &quot;fog of war&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="f0a8422fe4da38507c48da99ce28b745" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/042/607/for_gallery_v2/dust_storm.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/042/607/large_v3/dust_storm.jpg" alt="Dust storm" /></a></div></div>It began with that dust storm, which enabled militants to launch a wave of suicide bomb attacks at a moment when the city streets were shrouded in orange haze.<br /><br />Iraqi troops had limited visibility and feared their American ally's capability to provide air cover might be compromised. The initial attack targeted Ramadi's governing center, where the Iraqi army maintained a heavily fortified headquarters.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/21/ramadi-battle/27721581/">http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/21/ramadi-battle/27721581/</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/014/491/qrc/635678197103549916-473973560.jpg?1443042702"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/pentagon/2015/05/21/ramadi-battle/27721581/">Dust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The military&#39;s top officer summed up the recent collapse of the Ramadi like this: &quot;The [Iraqi Security Force] was not driven out of Ramadi, they</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. Sat, 23 May 2015 09:55:21 -0400 2015-05-23T09:55:21-04:00 Response by GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad made May 23 at 2015 9:59 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war?n=690574&urlhash=690574 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't know ... is this "fog of war" or political spin? GySgt Wayne A. Ekblad Sat, 23 May 2015 09:59:04 -0400 2015-05-23T09:59:04-04:00 Response by SrA Jonathan Carbonaro made May 23 at 2015 10:26 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war?n=690608&urlhash=690608 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-42610"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fdust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Dust+storm%2C+car+bombs+and+confusion%3A+Inside+the+Battle+for+Ramadi+-+is+this+just+the+%22fog+of+war%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fdust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0ADust storm, car bombs and confusion: Inside the Battle for Ramadi - is this just the &quot;fog of war&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="137fd9527ccf77adf68e4fda5f36f5f7" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/042/610/for_gallery_v2/11165242_10152734803495946_763276924762961665_n.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/042/610/large_v3/11165242_10152734803495946_763276924762961665_n.jpg" alt="11165242 10152734803495946 763276924762961665 n" /></a></div></div>This might be an example of why. Look out how Carl is holding the 240B. SrA Jonathan Carbonaro Sat, 23 May 2015 10:26:13 -0400 2015-05-23T10:26:13-04:00 Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2015 4:16 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/dust-storm-car-bombs-and-confusion-inside-the-battle-for-ramadi-is-this-just-the-fog-of-war?n=691235&urlhash=691235 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I view this as the Iraqi and US government as blatantly lying. In this video of the Iraqi Army fleeing you don't see any dust storms. They don't just hit one part of town. Anyone that has been in one knows that. <br /><br />Gen. Martin Dempsey summed up the recent victory by Islamic State militants in the key Iraqi city of Ramadi this way:<br /><br />"The [Iraqi security force] was not driven out of Ramadi; they drove out of Ramadi."<br /><br />Are you kidding me. This is one of the worst assessments that I have ever heard. The Iraqi Army are cowards. It isn't as if they left for a reason. They fled because they didn't want to fight. This is the same thing as Dempsey say that Ramadi isn't important. He needs to stop drinking the kool aid. ISIS controls another major city. The Iraqi Army failed miserably. They have paper Army. It is like saying that 500 innocent people in Ramadi weren't executed by ISIS; they just died. Either way the bodies are in the streets.<br /><br />I feel like I am listening to our version of Baghdad Bob. I don't think Dempsey is up to the part anymore. I am ready for Gen. Joseph F. Dunford to step in. I don't even know if he even believes what he is saying or if he is just spewing the political spin people want to hear. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-youtube"> <div class="pta-link-card-video"> <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/OWcv439h-iQ?version=3&amp;autohide=1&amp;wmode=transparent" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWcv439h-iQ">Isis: Video shows Iraqi forces fleeing Ramadi after Islamic State militants capture city</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Amateur footage has been released which shows Iraqi forces fleeing the city of Ramadi after officials in the country confirmed the city had been captured by ...</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CPT Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 23 May 2015 16:16:29 -0400 2015-05-23T16:16:29-04:00 2015-05-23T09:55:21-04:00