SGT(P) Daniel McBride 505340 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m close to making E-6 as an 88M. I want something outside of my CMF that could assist me in making E-7 and guide me into possible retirement. 2015-03-01T16:18:49-05:00 SGT(P) Daniel McBride 505340

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m close to making E-6 as an 88M. I want something outside of my CMF that could assist me in making E-7 and guide me into possible retirement.

2015-03-01T16:18:49-05:00 2015-03-01T16:18:49-05:00 CSM Michael J. Uhlig 505348

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am partial to Drill Sergeants within the unit, they are master trainers!<br /><br />There are additional options to consider concerning the generating force, have you thought about becoming an AIT Platoon Sergeant or becoming a Service School Instructor?

2015-03-01T16:23:03-05:00 2015-03-01T16:23:03-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 505379

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Drill Sergeant seems more fulfilling to me. Taking a raw, unknowing, scared individual, and give them the foundation to become a lean, mean, confident soldier.<br /><br />Takes a special kind of person.

2015-03-01T16:42:02-05:00 2015-03-01T16:42:02-05:00 1SG Frank Boynton 525051

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was an E-6 88M when I attended drill sgt school. But I was prior 11B. It worked for me. I was selected for my advanced course below the zone and was able to attend my school during my last cycle of basic training. When I completed my advanced course I returned to the trail and had orders in hand for my next assignment. It is what allowed me to make 7 first time in the primary. I select Drill Sgt because you control your own future, unlike a Recruiter who has to worry every single day he's going to make quota, and the current public opinion doesn't change at a whim, which means a drop in popularity of the services for the just graduating high schooler. I assisted some recruiters from Olean New York for a week, and I wouldn't do that job for anything. Unless you're like the best used car salesman, I'd advise against it. As a drill sgt, you know what's expected of you every single cycle. If you have the drive and love of the job, you will succeed. It's a tough job. I trained mostly female cycles, seldom had more than a weekend off between cycles, unlike male cycles who had at least a week and sometimes 2 weeks off between cycles. But it was one of the most fulfilling jobs I had in the Army. I was drill sergeant of the cycle for 3 cycles in a row in my first year. I was involuntarily extended for a 3rd year, but I loved the job. Hated the location, Ft. Dix, NJ was the armpit of the world, really. It opened a lot of doors for me after the assignment also. Made E-8 in the secondary zone and was selected for Sgt Maj. Academy, but gave it up to retire at 37 years old. E-5's struggled as Drill Sergeants. The power is overwhelming. You must be very mature and dedicated to the military to succeed as a Drill Sergeant. Most the Drill relieved from the trial during the 3 years I was there at Ft. Dix, were E-5's, both male and female.

2015-03-11T17:30:02-04:00 2015-03-11T17:30:02-04:00 COL Charles Williams 536377

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I can&#39;t pick... As they are both essential to our Army. It depends on what you want to do. Both are super important, but difficult for different reasons. I am not a salesman, or extrovert, so I think would have a hard time as a recruiter. Plus the stress of making mission would be rough. I believe I would enjoy being DS more.<br /><br />For you <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="12449" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/12449-sgt-p-daniel-mcbride">SGT(P) Daniel McBride</a> , you have to decide what you would enjoy most.

2015-03-18T11:29:17-04:00 2015-03-18T11:29:17-04:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 536457

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Recruiter. I have to imagine the interpersonal communication skills learned there are a lot more transferable to the outside world..

2015-03-18T11:53:39-04:00 2015-03-18T11:53:39-04:00 SFC Dennis Yancy 536462

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Schooling helps alot. Take any one week course they offer. I made staff when points dropped to 992.

2015-03-18T11:56:30-04:00 2015-03-18T11:56:30-04:00 SFC Keith Griffith 536486

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Greetings! I ended up doing an AGR tour as a US Army Reserve Recruiter (00E40) back in 1983-86... I was a devout introvert when I started, and felt like a fish out of the water for most of the first year... Glad I had an awesome Station Commander who actually knew how hard it was to put people in boots. My RA counterparts had missions of 1-2 per month, my lowest mission in 3 years was 5! Never rolled a doughnut, and only had a single twinkie in 33 months on production. Earned a gold badge the second year and was Reserve Recruiter of the Year, Top 56 Club, etc.<br /><br />Had a nearly 1-1 conversion rating, so my reward was making phone calls to help out the RA recruiters with missions of 1 who weren't making it.... <br /><br />Three years of Recruiting duty was more than enough, but got recruited off AD to become an Executive Recruiter with Management Recruiters International... Spent almost 15 years hunting heads.... Living at Ft Living Room was nice and gave me a path to civilian employment.

2015-03-18T12:01:27-04:00 2015-03-18T12:01:27-04:00 SFC Jamie Whitaker 536531

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Either way is a good road to excell. It takes commitment and belief in what your are doing.

2015-03-18T12:22:09-04:00 2015-03-18T12:22:09-04:00 MSG Mark Perry 536549

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I will have to say a Drill Sergeant. As a leader, you look influence others by providing purpose, motivation, and direction (funny I still remember that definition after being retired for over 4 years). As a Drill Sergeant, you have the opportunity to actually develop future leaders and isn't that the role of a true NCO. You will have the opportunity to make a major impact in a large number of Soldier's lives by influencing, molding, or even shaping them into great leaders. Nothing against Recruiters, their job is as important but to have that role of developing the Soldiers of our great Army, means a lot to me.

2015-03-18T12:29:56-04:00 2015-03-18T12:29:56-04:00 SFC Charles Hester 536707

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Because I was one from Feb 2002- 2005 Ft. Benning Ga Eco 2/58

2015-03-18T13:20:17-04:00 2015-03-18T13:20:17-04:00 1SG Kevin Siegmund 536770

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I got drafted for recruiting in my 5th week of DSS. Being a Drill Sergeant at McClellan was the most difficult and rewarding part of my career. 92-94 A 795th MP.

2015-03-18T13:36:35-04:00 2015-03-18T13:36:35-04:00 SFC Harold Benton 536936

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was drafted into recruiting as a young Staff Sergeant (1983). Your actions do not control your destiny or accomplishments, the whims of others do. <br /><br />I was drafted into being a Drill Sergeant in 1995 as an SFC. It was a much more physically demanding job and required even more time than recruiting but it was a much more fulfilling and enjoyable job.

2015-03-18T14:33:38-04:00 2015-03-18T14:33:38-04:00 CSM Alicia Castillo 537329

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am partial to Drill Sergeant, but have to agree with COL Williams both are essential to our Army. As a Drill Sergeant your skills as a leader are refined, training, coaching, and mentoring become second nature. You wont get those leadership opportunities as a Recruiter, once the recruits paper work is complete, you move on to the next one. As for retirement, my advice is retire with a degree, the competition is real. Good luck to you.

2015-03-18T16:15:08-04:00 2015-03-18T16:15:08-04:00 1SG Clifford Walters 537394

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was an 11B SFC and DA selected for Drill Sergeant duty at Ft. Dix New Jersey. I served as a Drill Sergeant and Senior Drill Sergeant for two years and as First Sergeant for 2 years after that. I feel Drill Sergeants have the opportunity to teach and mentor trainees through leadership by example that produces excellent soldiers for the force. Drill Sergeants also get to see the results of their work. After 40 years I still know the name of my Drill Sergeant (Holt). I do not remember my recruiter.

2015-03-18T16:34:31-04:00 2015-03-18T16:34:31-04:00 SFC Keith Bailey 537403

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was forced / ordered to do it.

2015-03-18T16:37:42-04:00 2015-03-18T16:37:42-04:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 537637

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was DA selected for Recruiting (82-85), I fought like hell to not go. Recruiting back then was a different world then recruiting duty today. But I still ask when I see the badge and it's still a hated assignment by the majority. The things that we were taught as young Soldiers and NCOs were often tossed out in the yard. Morale, welfare of the Soldier, consideration for their family and family issues all took a back seat to putting someone on the floor, getting the contract, shipping that DEP, and mission box; Hero to zero with just the overnight change in the date at the end of the recruiting month. It was rough for me, well, actually I made it rough for myself as a recruiting station commander because I refused to turn my back on my recruiters when they needed someone to support them. Even so, when I left recruiting at the end of my 3 yr detailed duty, I had made E7 while out there (1 0f 2 in my MOS that year that got promoted Army wide and both of us were on recruiting duty). Because of my stubborness, I did not leave with a max EER, however, I was successful and had the awards to show for it. All I wanted was to get back to the mainstream Army and back to leading Soldiers and not being lead by those who had forgotten what leading was. <br />, <br />Recruiting today has changed a great deal and for the better in my opinion, however, it's still a dreaded duty assignment. There are also many war stories about Drill Sergeant Duty as well. The Army has changed a great deal since the time I'm writing about and my old tales won't help with the decision making.<br /><br />I would suggest that you go out and visit your local Army Recruiting Office and talk to the Recruiters. You will most likely hear the good and the bad aspect of the assignment. Talk to some of the former Drill Sergeants from your unit, battalion, etc. Then sit down and make the old Pros/Cons list for each one. Do some self reflection on your personality, leadership style, tolerance for BS, how would each one impact your family/marriage, if money is an issue-then add that to the consideration. Most recruiting assignments will prevent you from have access to PX, commissary, etc. <br /><br />Good thinking on your part in looking forward and wanting to make the decision before you get orders and then have no choice. Wishing you good luck with which ever one you choose...either way, I suspect you will do well......whether you like it out there or not and will be glad to back to a TO&amp;E unit again.

2015-03-18T17:53:24-04:00 2015-03-18T17:53:24-04:00 SGT William Howell 537655

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ask any recruiter why!

2015-03-18T17:59:03-04:00 2015-03-18T17:59:03-04:00 SGT Bryon Sergent 537665

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Will relate to the outside world!

2015-03-18T18:03:13-04:00 2015-03-18T18:03:13-04:00 SPC Ken Harper 537709

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'd say DS, because you would have the op to mold civilians into soldiers, transform them into something they even have doubts about themselves, and you would be their first real role model. How many troops remember their recruiter? How many remember their DS/DI? Who do you see comments about, the recruiter or DS? The recruiters get them in, the DS molds them into soldiers.

2015-03-18T18:18:50-04:00 2015-03-18T18:18:50-04:00 SFC Joseph Belote 537779

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SGT McBride, I commend you on taking your career seriously, not simply waiting and relying on decisions made for your career by people who most likely know very little about you other than what is on paper, and your seeking advice from others (who are as much your mentors and your admirers). Of all the comments I've seen posted so far to your question, I've only seen truth as seen from others eyes and the impact the differences have made in their lives and careers. Life is too short to live feeling like victim rather than a victor; therefore, if you have a preference one way or another then make your choice suit you. The most important part of your decision is will it make you happy and feel fulfilled living doing what you have selected. I have trained recruits (not as a Drill Sergeant) and I have recruited (as a school trained recruiter) and found them equally rewarding. There is no doubt that recruiters deal with pressures that are hard to adapt to from "normal" military service; however, those same pressures will push you to be dependent on yourself without the ability to blame anyone except yourself for your results (or lack thereof). No doubt Drill Sergeants make lasting impressions on everyone who makes it through Basic Combat Training; however, Recruiters make the largest and longest lasting (regardless if most realize it or not). Without a recruiter there would be any young Americans for Drill Sergeants to mold. Recruiters must have the vision to see those diamonds in the rough, convince them and their centers of influences that they have something undeniable to contribute to the service of our nation, and them aid them in passing through the gauntlet of a weeding out process. Meanwhile, Recruiters must live out the Army Values among people who know nothing of these strong principles we hold high without compromising any of these. Few thank their Recruiter for helping them clean themselves up to get into the Army; whereas, virtually everyone revears their DI as the artist who painted Army Green int their veins. Your decision is certainly important to your career. Choose what is right for you. Do you want to stand in front of recruits, stand I front of civilians, or stand behind those you trained at an AIT graduation? It is ultimately where you will find comfort that matters.

2015-03-18T18:42:36-04:00 2015-03-18T18:42:36-04:00 SFC Arthur Tucker 538438

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When I rotated back to the states from Panama they wanted me to go to the 10th SFA in Massachusetts I felt like I could not handle the cold weather after being in Panama for 3 and one half years. Special Forces was going through a down sizing and I was first offered a job as a recruiter which I declined then drill sergeant and I declined again. I finally settled on a ROTC assignment to Georgia Institute of Technology. I guess you could say that was both Drill Sergeant and Recruiter. It was enough that I decided to retire from there after 2 years there and a total of 21 and one half years of military. I took a job as a corporate pilot after that and spent 31 years at that and still do some corporate fill in and flight instruct. At 75 years of age I keep thinking that it is time to retire but just cannot make myself do it. Every year when it is time to renew my flight physical I think maybe that will be my last but I have been passing it and go for another year. I think I need a good vacation. Any advice?

2015-03-18T23:33:09-04:00 2015-03-18T23:33:09-04:00 LCDR Private RallyPoint Member 539021

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have seen too many people get in trouble on Recruiting duty. Not that you are a trouble maker but I avoided it like the plague.

2015-03-19T08:37:24-04:00 2015-03-19T08:37:24-04:00 SGM Private RallyPoint Member 540140

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>While I think it is important that you are looking ahead and trying to take the steps to assist you in promotion. I also think is important that you complete that step previous to making SFC. You are a sergeant now, get your 18 to 24 months in that next duty position. I am not an 88M so I do know the progression from Sgt to Ssg. I can safely deduct that it's something of greater responsibility. Then once you have done that make your choise on which route to take. Being a drill sergeant or recruiter is important but it is more important that we put Soldiers in these positions who are already qualified in their current grade or rank. Either way most of this is opinion and I wish you the best.

2015-03-19T15:56:33-04:00 2015-03-19T15:56:33-04:00 SFC Raymond Koeller 540380

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I did both. Recruiter from 91-94 and DS from 2000-2004. Recruiting sucks unless you are good at sales. I wasn't. DS is the most difficult job I ever loved. It is probably easier to hurt your career in recruiting then as a DS. If you miss your numbers, stress goes up for you, your station, and your family. At least as a DS you still have all the support of a military base.

2015-03-19T18:03:24-04:00 2015-03-19T18:03:24-04:00 1SG William Svoboda 550619

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was both a Service school Instructor and a black hat trainer as well as an NCO Academy SGL and Senior Instructor there. I never compare the three, Recruiter, Drill SGT, or Service School however, I do believe all three have equal promotion potential and career enhancements. There are some post service benefits to the recruiter and service school training and experience that the DI position lacks. 1st, recruiter TNG sets you up for great sales both inside and outside, positions. The instructor opens up classroom teacher, TNG positions, etc. An example is when I applied for my teachers credentials the TNG and certifications I received as a service school instructor saved me 1500 dollars and 4 college courses. The experience itself prepared me for the classroom. Now I know the DI teaches and can also be good experience for the classroom in civilian schools but I'm not sure of the transfer of credits and course requirements being met. Bottom line up front, your choice and subsequent selection for either of these two (3), career choices will be based on personality, opportunity, and short/long term goals. We all know some that shouldn't have been a DI, recruiter, or instructor and others that were bang on perfect for the jobs. DA selection only looks at numbers and I think you should be interviewed once selected to determine aptitude.

2015-03-25T12:04:33-04:00 2015-03-25T12:04:33-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 550975

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It all depends on what you want. Having an additional duty assignment like DS or Recruiter is definitely helpful. Are you more of a "Ruckin' it Alongside your Troops" kind of a leader or a "Logistical" leader. <br /><br />The other things you could look into are AIT Instructor/PSG or NCOES Instructor.

2015-03-25T14:06:22-04:00 2015-03-25T14:06:22-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 550976

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Where is AIT PSG at? I prefer that over Drill and Recruiter. I was one in 2011-2013. U have a direct impact on the transportation corp. all 88 mikes come through 58th trans. It's only 3 companies also. You are managing 100+ privates everyday for 8 weeks. When I was there every SSG made SFC. Even one with 0 college credit hours. I wanted to be a drill when I was a ssg until I saw my first e-5 drill, then I was like nah. They have sgt doing this gig.

2015-03-25T14:06:37-04:00 2015-03-25T14:06:37-04:00 SSG Thomas Hosfelt 551019

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was a recruiter for more than five years. First year was great from then on it was all down hill. I was working so many hours that I mine as well have done deployment after deployment. When you're succesful you're the man in the chain of commands eyes. One bad month is a bad NCOER. You can have a stellar year and one or two bad months you're just a dud. It doesn't matter to the chain how many hours you've worked how many you've put in boots in the past. I got out by volunteering to deploy ended up getting shot twice seeing two of my comrades brutally murdered when I retu my chain of command wanted me to forget what had happened and return to duty as a recruiter. Best day of my life was the day I medical retired 100% disable with TBI and severe PTSD.

2015-03-25T14:19:32-04:00 2015-03-25T14:19:32-04:00 SFC Charles S. 551035

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I picked Drill Sergeant for this poll because I was a Recruiter. I would not wish Recruiter on anyone. It was a Three year black whole in my life and Career... I know the old adage about the grass is always greener wherever you are not. but There is more prestige and credit to having been a Drill than a Recruiter. The Army Needs both and they are both Career Enders or Enhancers. My Preference would be Drill. I wish I would have volunteered for Drill before I was selected for Recruiting. However I did see a couple recruiter who had Been Drills... that would have been a double helping of Suck...but as the Infantry say... EMBRACE the suck. <br /><br />I was recruiting in the Los Angeles BN. Hard assignment, Nobody wanted to go in but I made mission more often than not and I got out with my skin in tact. I was a Gold badge with Triple Sapphires, Just short of a ring recruiter. It was 93-96 There were high Missions and a lot of recruiters who were bagged for improprieties and I was NOT one of them. I held my ground and made it out alive.<br /><br />When Forced to Sink or swim back then Soldiers were good at making things happen to stay afloat but in the long run the short cuts were what got them. If they left the rules behind they were cannon fodder.

2015-03-25T14:26:44-04:00 2015-03-25T14:26:44-04:00 SFC Jerry Barker 551079

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you enjoy being a "soldier," stay as far away as you can from Recruiting Command. Professionally, yes, they are necessary. Personally, that was the worst job I have had in my entire life. I was forced into the job for three years, then had a one year involuntary extension when I was down to six months. I left as a Gold Badge Recruiter, so no, I wasn't a failure at it. The JOB could be rewarding, but Recruiting Command is a different story. Four years with no support system. Four years of constant threats of having my career destroyed if I didn't meet quota, that renew at the first day of every month. Four years of having to take "working vacations" where you take leave, only to go to work in civilian clothes in order to make mission. You see, if you take more than 14 days of leave, they reduce your mission. Guess what never gets approved? So you take shorter vacations but have to work anyway to make mission. I could go on and on, how the stress ends careers, destroys marriages, results in suicides, and USAREC could care less. Stay far, far away.

2015-03-25T14:41:48-04:00 2015-03-25T14:41:48-04:00 SFC Bhrett Sikkema 552079

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As one of the few that has done both jobs, it would have to be Drill Sergeant. Recruiter was one of the hardest on the family and really did nothing for my career. I was in recruiting from 97-98, yes less than a complete three years but unlike others when I was offered the chance to get out I did. My penance for leaving early was another trip to Korea. Drill Sergeant, 01-04, signing in as 9-11 occurred and being involuntarily extended for a third year, was one of the best assignments I ever had. Training troops to thrive and survive in their future endeavors was satisfying in a way that recruiting could never touch. Yes the rules have changed since I went through basic back in the 80's but there are no quotas and when you are off duty, something you never are as a recruiter, you are off. The hours are long and dealing with fresh kids every 8 or so weeks can be challenging, but if I had to do it over again, I would take the trail over recruiting every time.

2015-03-25T21:08:12-04:00 2015-03-25T21:08:12-04:00 LTC Matthew Robinson 561884

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I commanded a Recruiting Company for over four years and found it the hardest assignment in my military career, and I served two tours in Baghdad, one at the tactical level and one at the operational level. I never felt so estranged from my military family. I do not speak of geography. I and my NCOs suffered a wide variety of indignities as we sought qualified applicants; many of which seemed to find their source in our HQ. All that aside, I learned more about leadership in those years than I would have thought possible; lessons which stood me in good stead walking the streets of Baghdad.

2015-03-30T15:53:23-04:00 2015-03-30T15:53:23-04:00 SFC David Zamora 597916

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wasn't a DS so I can't really say one or the other and I can only speak of my experience as a recruiter. I got hit with Recruiting orders and reluctantly went and did it. I went to recruiting school at Ft Jackson where we were housed next to the DS school and we had class every day from 1200-1800 M-F and weekends off. It was all classroom instruction and I can't remember doing PT while I was there except for the APFT. Meanwhile, while we were strolling over to our POVs to go to class in the afternoon after sleeping in, the DS' were marching around and yelling modules to trees..... at that point I was glad I was a recruiter. In the end, I voluntarily extended to stay in recruiting longer and tried to convert to 79R but at that time they weren't converting E-7's so I had to go back to the line. <br /><br />I thoroughly enjoyed recruiting and getting away from the normal stupidity that goes hand in hand with regular army. Organized PT, formations 12 times a day, Motor Pool Mondays, hand receipts, inventory, getting called in at 0 dark stupid because one of your Soldiers was a dumb ass. In recruiting, you're expected to be able to do your job with little or no supervision and you're given free reign to do that. <br /><br />If you really like "playing Army" and doin all that stuff, then to each his own, I personally enjoyed being away from it and it also set me up for my new career post army as an Executive Recruiter and I absolutely LOVE this job. Plus it pays MUCH MUCH MUCH better than any Enlisted rank to include the SMA and even most officer ranks. I don't think there's many civilian jobs out there that will hire you on straight out of the military making 6 figures because you have DS experience, but recruiting experience can easily do that.

2015-04-17T08:55:45-04:00 2015-04-17T08:55:45-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 597976

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>DS is fast track for promotions. Often you'll see CSM with the drill sergeant patch.

2015-04-17T09:28:44-04:00 2015-04-17T09:28:44-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 648093

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Either are listed as critical right now. Either are looked at as helping you when Branch looks at you for your MOS. The question is going to be what do you feel that you can handle the most of. I am going into recruiting knowing that there are a lot of challenges that I am going to face in recruiting, yet these are something that I am willing to face and when I looked at the option of Drill Sergeant it was something that I was not interested in at all. I am more interested in bringing future Soldiers into the Army than dealing with the Soldiers that are brought in. When you look at "which one is going to help you more" they are both going to help you the same. It is all going to depend on you.

2015-05-07T03:44:42-04:00 2015-05-07T03:44:42-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1205436

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There's more soldering as a drill sergeant. If you want to sit at a desk be a recruiter. Obviously that's not all Recruiters do. I'm just saying. Being a drill sergeant is awesome, challenging, and fun

2015-12-30T12:30:51-05:00 2015-12-30T12:30:51-05:00 SSG Warren Swan 3829246

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Call me biased, but go with being a DS. Both are respectable and honorable, but to be a DS, it takes a hard commitment to knowing the line between mentor, counselor, leader, and in rare cases recommending discipline. DS are the biggest pricks you&#39;ll ever meet, but man are they some of the best pricks you&#39;ll ever get to follow.

2018-07-26T23:34:11-04:00 2018-07-26T23:34:11-04:00 2015-03-01T16:18:49-05:00