Does your years of service in the NG/USAR count towards active duty retirement?

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:50:34 -0500

I have been in the NG/USAR for a number of years, and I'm looking to go active through the Call to Active Duty program. I'm looking to retire after 20 years, and I hope my years in the NG/USAR counts. I would hate to have to start afresh if I go active.

Response by CW5 Jack Cardwell made Nov 30 at 2018 10:01 AM

CW5 Jack Cardwell — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:01:28 -0500

The time counts but there is a formula that calculates you Guard/Reserve into Active Duty time.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 30 at 2018 10:01 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:01:51 -0500

As I've understood it, though I never did it due to now total perm disability, you need to SERIOUSLY document ALL of your Reserve and/or Guard time, I'd heard that each valid retirement year SHOULD count, IF you PROPERLY document it, so, I'd send for ALL your records, whether from Army, ARNG, or USAR, as well as if the records are there at all, NPRC, using the eVetRecs website from NARA/NPRC in St Louis, as the case may be, then, I'd seek competent, private, civilian legal advice from an attorney specializing in mil admin law, trust me, they exist, pay any needed serious consult fee, document all your years, all your OERs, OPRs, fitness reports, credited years, what have you with them, and let THEM handle if for you, DON'T try handling it yourself, trust me, my VA total perm disability, and all our other disability stuff, my wife and I, and my VA thing took six and a half yrs, convinced me there's a real reason God invented lawyers, I assure you...pay the needed money, find a mil admin lawyer who does stuff like correction boards, they'll likely be competent on mil retirement, and have the whole thing PROPERLY, PROFESSIONALLY, PRIVATELY, and COMPETENTLY assessed, honest...please trust countless years of anecdotal admin and bureaucratic aggravation as to why I'm giving you that advice, if you'd care to chat further, I'm here, just ask, no rush, anytime, I'd be glad to try to suggest more, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Nov 30 at 2018 10:03 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:03:41 -0500

http://www.vetadvocates.org

NOVA mainly does VA disability, not mil admin law, however, their attorneys are all quite competent, and might know colleagues who do such mil admin law, trust me, use their search engine and/or call them, and ask, if I can suggest more, as I'd said, just ask, I'll try, OK?

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Response by LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2018 10:21 AM

LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:21:04 -0500

I just moved from the ARNG to AD Navy. Your total years of service will be considered in determining your pay date to calculate your pay. Your days on orders will count in calculating your eligible retirement date. All of your retirement points will count once you qualify for AD retirement. E.g. I served in the Guard nine years, I spent a total of 2.5 years on orders and I had retirement points accounting for an additional 2.5 years. I'm paid with 9 years time in service. My retirement was backdated by 2.5 years. Once I serve an additional 17.5years, I will have 22.5 years of qualifiyibg retirement.
Make sure you have thorough documentation before you moved over. I was only able to prove my service to the Navy bc I had saved every LES.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2018 10:39 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:39:22 -0500

Your reserve time counts towards a reserve retirement, and towards your time in service for pay purposes.
Aby active time, such as AT or other training, will count towards your active duty retirement. Make sure you keep your retirement points worksheets and and orders for active duty.
Also, I don't think you can go to active duty through COAD. I'm pretty certain it's only a temporary period of active duty. But I've only dealt with COAD a few times.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2018 10:08 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 22:08:13 -0500

You will get credit for any time spent on active duty orders (ie BCT, OCS, BOLC, title X, etc) Add that time up and that is your amount of active federal service towards active duty retirement.

Response by LTC John Griscom made Jan 17 at 2019 7:23 AM

LTC John Griscom — Thu, 17 Jan 2019 07:23:34 -0500

I was placed in the Retired Reserves in 1992 and started drawing retired pay at age 60 in 2002. Had 11+ years active and 17 in the USAR.
Not sure if things have changed.

Response by LTC Ray B. (Ret) made Aug 1 at 2019 3:20 PM

LTC Ray B. (Ret) — Thu, 01 Aug 2019 15:20:26 -0400

They count