Does anyone know of anyone who had their firearms seized?

Sgt Adrian Jones — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:00:46 -0400

So I just saw on Fox News this "Red Flag" states where authorities can seize firearms if they believe a person is a threat to themselves or the public. Does anyone know of anyone that this has happened to, I live in one the Red Flag states. I can't wait to move to Texas or Cali(also a red flag state probably not moving there now).

Response by SPC David Willis made Apr 4 at 2018 9:04 AM

SPC David Willis — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:04:49 -0400

Id also look into who has had them seized and returned vs. seized and not returned. That would be the biggest concern in my opinion.

Response by CW5 Jack Cardwell made Apr 4 at 2018 9:09 AM

CW5 Jack Cardwell — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:09:34 -0400

Not here in NC. This would save many more lives if it was based on taking automobiles away from drunk drivers!

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2018 9:20 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:20:13 -0400

This is the first thing they will read when they enter my ranch if they come to get mine.

Response by SSG Robert Webster made Apr 4 at 2018 9:30 AM

SSG Robert Webster — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 09:30:35 -0400

Only from news reports. Not first hand.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2018 10:43 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 10:43:23 -0400

Yeah, it would be terrible to live in a state where the authorities would have been able to seize the weapons from the FL school shooter based on all the red flags he exhibited before he actually used them. The laws also provide for quick hearings and due process. It's much better to live in a state where authorities have no ability to seize weapons until after they are used. /Sarcasm

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2018 12:11 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:11:39 -0400

In Cali it depends on the county you move to Sgt Adrian Jones. For example the sheriff of my town refuses to disarm his citizens. Most of norther California Counties excise this rule. I’m sure that is also what applies in other red flag states. Hope that helps.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 4 at 2018 12:12 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:12:10 -0400

Perfect!

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Apr 4 at 2018 12:35 PM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:35:11 -0400

Sgt Adrian Jones The Washington Post has an article about the laws. According to the article California is one of the five states that allow this seizure. It also states that it has to be ordered by a judge. Though in the states listed, I doubt that a local judge would not sign off on it. It also states that it is a TEMPORARY seizure when someone poses a threat to themselves or others. What I want to know is first off, what burden of proof is required for such a seizure to occur, how long is temporary, what process is in place for a person who has this action taken to redress the issue? I know when purchasing a firearm, they ask "under penalty of perjury" if a person is addicted to drugs or alcohol. So the background check is already being enhanced to reduce the likelihood of an unstable person from acquiring a firearm through legal channels.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/five-states-allow-guns-to-be-seized-before-someone-can-commit-violence/2018/02/16/78ee4cc8-128c-11e8-9570-29c9830535e5_story.html?utm_term=.4d9cb8749984

Five states allow guns to be seized before someone can commit violence

Measures to let police or family members ask a judge to block someone’s access to firearms have been proposed in 18 other states.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Apr 4 at 2018 1:06 PM

SGT Dave Tracy — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 13:06:11 -0400

I think most "Red Flag" laws are fairly new (at least the modern version of Red Flag type laws) historically speaking. Time will tell the tale as to just how liberally they get applied, but as for me, the only guy I know who got his gun taken away was an old friend who went to prison for murder, so...yeah.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Apr 4 at 2018 6:02 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Wed, 04 Apr 2018 18:02:22 -0400

It's one of those "I know a guy who knew a guy who had a cousin who had it happen kinda things"...

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 5 at 2018 9:25 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Thu, 05 Apr 2018 21:25:39 -0400

There have been several vets with mental health issues that were, are the VA told the authorities, asked to turn them in, or suffer.

Response by LTC Trent Klug made Oct 20 at 2022 1:26 AM

LTC Trent Klug — Thu, 20 Oct 2022 01:26:07 -0400

I do. A total violation of their Constitutional rights.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2022 11:11 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Oct 2022 11:11:14 -0400

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Oct 20 at 2022 2:10 PM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Thu, 20 Oct 2022 14:10:34 -0400

I believe the state laws require a court order.