Do you think we will go to war with NK if they conduct a nuclear air burst test? Why or why not?

SN Greg Wright — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:03:21 -0500

I think it's inevitable. In 2003, Bush entered into an agreement with Kaddafi to end his nuclear power program. In 2009, that process was completed. Fast forward to 2011, and Obama authorizes the US to join other nations in bombing Libya. 7 months after that, Kaddafi was killed by a mob in his own country. Queue today with Trump's hardline rhetoric, and THAT is what Fat Boy Leader has on his brain: that only nuclear capability will prevent the same from happening to him. Diplomacy is never going to work.

Response by SFC George Smith made Nov 30 at 2017 3:08 PM

SFC George Smith — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:08:32 -0500

don't think any thing will happen till one gets close to The US land mass... then its all Hell breaks loose...

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 3:10 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:10:02 -0500

Hard to say because China is the big unknown. The Winter Olympics in Feb 2018 complicate things a bit. No clean options for sure.

Response by SPC David Willis made Nov 30 at 2017 3:13 PM

SPC David Willis — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:13:25 -0500

I doubt it. War with NK wont be a war against just Korea. China is a wildcard, and while I don't think they would move troops against ours in open combat, I do believe there are things they could do to hurt us economically. Russia would almost assuredly back NK, again not militarily but in some fashion. The middle east would become an even bigger shit show than it is now and extremist groups like ISIS would be able to resurrect themselves, and Russia could expand its grasp of eastern Europe unchecked with Allied forces focused on NK.

Response by LTC Jeff Shearer made Nov 30 at 2017 3:16 PM

LTC Jeff Shearer — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:16:01 -0500

Greg I hope not for the simple fact it is on the plate of all those of you who are not retired and still fighting the good fight.

Hopes aside, I would not say inevitable but odds are pretty damn good. An issue if it does I see happening many of those anti-trump people will blame him. I dont want to hurt anyones feelings, okay I dont really care about that, the path we are on is because the past several presidents failed to do the right thing in regards to NK. Greg, they have only become more and more dangerous in both their weapons systems and the rhetoric coming from their insane leaders nest.

I feel confident based on the non classified stuff I have seen on the news that we have no choice but end his reign of insanity. Now understand this is just my opinion but, I think we need to kill the fat boy, all of his sr leadership, unless they make a break for the DMZ now. They are not just bad people with a few humanitarian issues, nope they are a threat to the entire planet. Narrowing that down a bit since the US in most likely his least favorite place, I say that puts us and our allies at the top of his list.

Greg I could go on and on but I am going to stop for now, I am sure I be back.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 3:37 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:37:01 -0500

SN Greg Wright- after you removed the training wheels on your bike did you start riding a 250 dirt bike? This is all a show by rocket man to show that he and his crappy country are relevant. The historical trend is NK needs something so they launch missiles and then American Presidents give them money, oil, food, or technology. Well, that system does not exist with the current POTUS. IMO, Our leaders (COA 1) should simply go to the UN and brief that any perceived threat, act, provocation against the US or our Allies will result in the utter destruction of the land mass north of the 38th parallel and not discuss it again; (COA 2) if South Korea and Japan want to play the kick the can down the road option then we need to remove troops from USFK, move them to Australia, and conduct a new Pacific peace plan policy with new allies.

Response by Capt Dwayne Conyers made Nov 30 at 2017 3:43 PM

Capt Dwayne Conyers — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:43:13 -0500

One little phone call from POTUS: “Hello? China? Please ignore that ICBM we are launching to North Korea…”

Response by LT Brad McInnis made Nov 30 at 2017 4:37 PM

LT Brad McInnis — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:37:06 -0500

Not to go too deep, but there are 2 things I see.
1) Ballistic missile launch versus air burst are 2 different animals. Do not know if they have the capability.. having one does not necessarily mean you have the other...
2) I think that our economic relationship/dependence on China is bigger than people think, and will prevent an all out war. Traditional thought is that China would side again with NOKO in case of attack, but when you have a bargaining chip like all the cheap Chinese crap we buy here in the US, it should make China think twice before siding with NOKO. Will also make them think hard about preventing a war.

My gut tells me that there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, and I hope (fervently mind you) that what is happening is that China and the US are working on a toppling of the regime and trying to figure out who will be installed afterwords. Granted we have a history of being pretty good on the first part, and horrible on the second...

Response by SPC Anthony Schepis made Nov 30 at 2017 4:43 PM

SPC Anthony Schepis — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 16:43:41 -0500

I don't think war will happen any time soon. The risks of nuclear war are too high and we cant suffer another war economically.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 5:38 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:38:36 -0500

Someday, somehow, someway we are going to get back into that fight. The question is, will Congress let us finish it?

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Nov 30 at 2017 5:42 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:42:37 -0500

They have never conducted an atmospheric test, in fact many of them were as small as .5kt. A trainload of TNT could do that. I don't know what this last thing was but it doesn't appear to be leaking a lot of radioactivity

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 5:53 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:53:14 -0500

I may just not be up to speed on all this since I don't watch the news, but what would an air burst test signal to us that fat boy hasn't already signaled? We already know he's crazy and we already know he's working toward having the capability to hit us with nukes. The next progression in his nuclear ability should not start a war. He can test weapons all day long. We may not like it but so what? If Americans aren't in danger, where's the threat? Targeting America should be the only thing that starts a war with him. Now if we are certain that once he has the ability he's going to use it against America, I'd ask what we are waiting for?

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Nov 30 at 2017 5:58 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:58:19 -0500

I don't know if an air burst test will be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but I do believe war with North Korea is inevitable. The Dear Leader is a little bit more unhinged than Dear Daddy was.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Nov 30 at 2017 7:35 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 19:35:18 -0500

Hopefully no. Anyone who thinks going to war with North Korea would be a piece of cake because of our technology is totally mistaken. Anyone involved with weaponeering targets knows that NK presents one of the toughest target sets in the world. This fact is nothing new and has contributed to development of multiple bunker busting weapons, both conventional and nuclear. A while back someone commented about sending some cruise missiles into NK, even with nuclear armed missiles, this would be the equivalent of pissing into the wind. Granted they had conventional warheads, but recall how little damage cruise missles inflicted on the Syrian airfield. Stealth and countermeasures may get aircraft to the target but the weapons we have are not going to kill most NK targets on the first pass. Meanwhile NK has the ability and plans to destroy the southern Korean pinnensula following any first strike. Quite simply, they are too dug in and hardened. Ya they have us over a barrel and they know it. Unfortunately the current administration seems to lack both the experience and will to attempt negotiations, leaving nothing but meaningless sabre rattling.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Nov 30 at 2017 8:02 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:02:48 -0500

No. We go to war with NK, SK is good as gone. We don't have the BOG ability with the numbers we have now, with the commitments elsewhere to go against them. Throw some bombs, some missiles, and we still take a healthy beating.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2017 8:57 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Nov 2017 20:57:32 -0500

If we do not want China involved we would have to get their support. However, China does not want to give up the buffer zone. China would have to act to "save face" or risk losing international support. China could take out Kimmie and put someone else in his place.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Dec 25 at 2017 11:20 AM

SSG Edward Tilton — Mon, 25 Dec 2017 11:20:54 -0500

They have never conducted a verifiable test. There is no reason to believe there is a threat