Posted on Apr 5, 2015
Do you think the next war on American soil is going to be against "free" gun owners?
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It's no secret, many American gun owners are feeling pressure from the government (local, state, and federal) when it comes to the laws associated with gun ownership and the right to carry openly or concealed.
In a discussion I recently read, someone mentioned that the next war will be against gun-owning American citizens. It was a powerful statement, and one that I'm not sure I can disagree with.
What are your thoughts, everyone? Do you feel this claim has merit? Or do you feel it is more paranoia?
In a discussion I recently read, someone mentioned that the next war will be against gun-owning American citizens. It was a powerful statement, and one that I'm not sure I can disagree with.
What are your thoughts, everyone? Do you feel this claim has merit? Or do you feel it is more paranoia?
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No, I do not think the government is coming for our guns. I think this is merely hype in the media, and gun and ammo makers.
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SPC Kevin Schober
You may want to follow closely what new York state is doing to gun owners. There newest proposal is aimed at making it almost impossible for gun owners by going after ammo. They propose that a legal gun owner could only purchase ammo every 90 days based on 2X what the gun carries. They already have limitations on max magazine capacity. So say you own a revolver ( to make this easy ) you would only be allowed to purchase 12 rounds every 90 days . How are you suppose to stay in practice at the range ? I am lucky enough to have left NYS and now live in Florida so this is not an issue for me. Some of my friends still in NY feel the proposal will be shot down again in legislation but sooner or later they will push it through. I am curious how this will affect people that reload their own ammo though. The media definitely slants the issues and attempts to get everyone all upset to sell the news but there is some fact in this and NY is the perfect example. That is the state where there may be a boiling point sooner or later.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
SPC Kevin Schober - Another blue state already has made it easier for LE to impound firearms based upon the word of a family member:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/1230/California-gun-law-will-allow-families-to-petition-for-gun-restraining-orders
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Update/2015/1230/California-gun-law-will-allow-families-to-petition-for-gun-restraining-orders
California gun law will allow families to petition for gun-restraining orders
California will become the first state to allow citizens to petition a court to temporarily seize family members' guns if they fear a danger to themselves or others.
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CPT Jack Durish
Hurricane Katrina: National Guardsmen went door-to-door confiscating guns without giving receipts. One owner lost a massive collection of antique firearms worth quite a bit and no recourse.
Veterans in VA care are being reported as unfit to own guns and some are being confiscated. The President's recent Executive Orders confirm this process.
The President's recent Executive Orders also call for Social Security beneficiaries who are receiving monthly payments through a trustee to be "reported". They will be assumed unfit to own guns.
As CPO Andy Carrillo, MS mentioned, California has enacted a law effective on the first of this year that will allow guns to be confiscated on petition of family members who fear someone "may be" a danger to themselves or others. (I guess knives and cudgels will be exempt inasmuch as they will remain peacefully in their accustomed places)
President Obama and Candidate Clinton have made frequent mention of their desire to disarm We the People.
I can well imagine citizens of Russia, China, Germany, Turkey, and the other nations where guns were confiscated as a prelude to mass exterminations saying much the same thing you are saying. I'm sure that they also said that such a thing could never happen there as we are saying it couldn't happen here.
I hope you are correct, but...
Veterans in VA care are being reported as unfit to own guns and some are being confiscated. The President's recent Executive Orders confirm this process.
The President's recent Executive Orders also call for Social Security beneficiaries who are receiving monthly payments through a trustee to be "reported". They will be assumed unfit to own guns.
As CPO Andy Carrillo, MS mentioned, California has enacted a law effective on the first of this year that will allow guns to be confiscated on petition of family members who fear someone "may be" a danger to themselves or others. (I guess knives and cudgels will be exempt inasmuch as they will remain peacefully in their accustomed places)
President Obama and Candidate Clinton have made frequent mention of their desire to disarm We the People.
I can well imagine citizens of Russia, China, Germany, Turkey, and the other nations where guns were confiscated as a prelude to mass exterminations saying much the same thing you are saying. I'm sure that they also said that such a thing could never happen there as we are saying it couldn't happen here.
I hope you are correct, but...
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS
CPT Jack Durish - Swatting (illegally calling 911 to report a false "felony-in-progress" requiring SWAT response on an innocent victim) may take on a whole new 'flavor' in CA. We shall see...
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I am in a unique situation because I work for a gun manufacture and we supply barrels for military and civilians including large OEMs. I see things different than some people.
Is the current president a uber liberal that thinks guns are evil. You bet! Is he going to take your guns away...Nope! Oh he wants to, but even he can't go around the Constitution on this one. Obama is controversial and he has divided this country on so many levels, but we are still Americans and that bond is going to be hard to break.
If you look back there were many other presidents that were hated or loved too. FDR, Kennedy, and Carter all were very controversial and Americans took sides with them. Obama will be no different.
Our forefathers had enough foresight to see that there may be someone that would want to become king. That is exactly why the 2nd amendment is there and exactly why we will never have a king.
Is the current president a uber liberal that thinks guns are evil. You bet! Is he going to take your guns away...Nope! Oh he wants to, but even he can't go around the Constitution on this one. Obama is controversial and he has divided this country on so many levels, but we are still Americans and that bond is going to be hard to break.
If you look back there were many other presidents that were hated or loved too. FDR, Kennedy, and Carter all were very controversial and Americans took sides with them. Obama will be no different.
Our forefathers had enough foresight to see that there may be someone that would want to become king. That is exactly why the 2nd amendment is there and exactly why we will never have a king.
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SGT William Howell
In order to win a war you must occupy the territory. The last 3 wars we were in were gorilla and we eventually gave up on all of them because the cost were too high. You don't need heavy weapons you have to have heart and fortitude to outlast the other guy.
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SPC Joseph Fisher
The 2nd amendment is as relevant today as it was in the beginning. And the govt will only have heavy weapons if our military turns on the American Citizen. I doubt that will ever happen but if it does which side will you be on? I will stand by all my brother and sisters who who raised their hand to defend the Constitution of the United States of America....
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SGT William Howell
You know if you don't like the way NY runs itself there are other states that will gladly take you in. Here in Ohio you can have guns and it it not an issue if they are black or have a magazine.
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Capt Jeff S.
SGT Richard Blue - Which is when you trust that our military leaders will not obey unlawful orders and side with the people against the gov't IF/WHEN the Fed Gov't is no longer representing the people that elected it and begins pursuing its own agenda. That's what restored Democracy in Egypt.
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MAJ (Join to see)
MSG Brad Sand, I believe that the CEOs of firearms companies and their respective stockholders are actually going to shed a few tears once President Obama leaves the stage; he has been a source of staggering sales!
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SFC Michael Hasbun
Of course the President hasn't been conspiring with gun companies. That's not at all what was suggested. Only that fear mongers make up stories at the behest of those manufacturers using the president as their evil villain, aka Fox News..
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MSG Brad Sand
SFC Michael Hasbun
The media fear mongering? Tell me it isn't so? Like trying to blame criminal actions by Godless people on the tools they chose? Creating false and misleading stories about law enforcement or whites attacking people of color? MSNBC/NBC/CBS/ABC
I am actually kind of glad that the people who attempt to limit our Constitutional rights end up having an opposite result than what they intended.
The media fear mongering? Tell me it isn't so? Like trying to blame criminal actions by Godless people on the tools they chose? Creating false and misleading stories about law enforcement or whites attacking people of color? MSNBC/NBC/CBS/ABC
I am actually kind of glad that the people who attempt to limit our Constitutional rights end up having an opposite result than what they intended.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
Because you suddenly live in a dystopian nightmare where everyone's guns have been taken away, reptilians control our lives, and the illuminati burned the constitution? Nonsense..
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