Do you think the Military has been unfairly treated?

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:35:13 -0500

This topic (question) has some credence, since it seems, that there is an agenda to instill programs, Climates (not AGW) and back-biting and sniping against other service members, veterans and retirees.

I agree that rape, waste and corruption still exist and that requires definitive action, immediately, but I believe the various agendas are being blown out of proportion. If for example, women are hurt, then I handle this with urgency or even false allegations in service and at college and Universities.

Look, I see an effort to marginalize the military. We have hubris over flags, Christianity and other issues, not germain to the military. What is your opinion. Is our executive branch instituting politically motivated agenda at our expense?

As an asid, let's top siding with liberal politics, regardless of the topic. Stop denigrating our fellow warriors and let's take back our military and coming down hard on our attackers.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Jan 12 at 2016 1:47 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 13:47:11 -0500

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member at times the military has been treated unfairly but other times the military has been laued as heroes. When i enlisted at the tail end of the Vietnam War service members were treated roughly by the populace in this nation. Thankfully in many ways the nation has matured in terms of its treatment of service members.
My response is intended to be a general response to the way the service members of the military has been treated over time. Up until the late 19th century the military was considered to be the scum of the earth. Enlisted men were from the dregs of society and only officers held any positive status.
For at least the past century many militaries have been composed of honorable men who sometimes engaged in dishonorable activity.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 12 at 2016 3:15 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:15:07 -0500

I think the biggest morale buster is fighting insurgency is not our strength.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2016 3:43 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:43:01 -0500

I think that the whole concept of "fairness" has run amok in today's PC society, but I'll keep the focus narrow and on the subject matter.
I have a right to be treated fairly when accused of a crime. Does the military do that? Reasonable people could disagree. I have seen a large and growing number of cases where the mere accusation of wrongdoing brings relief and early retirement due to "lost confidence" in their ability to lead. The rights of victims of crimes must be upheld, but so must those of the accused. We seem to have developed a habit of punishing before proof of guilt is established. If allegations are proven, then by all means, hang them from the yard arm.
I have a right to be treated equally regardless of sex, gender, national origin, religion, and now orientation. I think we do this pretty well in the military by and large, but I am disturbed by the amount of times I have seen EO brandished as a cudgel to cow commanders into not holding incompetents to account. As with accusations of malfeasance, accusations of bigotry or prejudice immediately brings the heat on the accused, even before there is a shred of evidence.

I learned early in my career that you don't make your move to bust a problem too soon. Investigate, let the facts come out, keep the disputing parties away from one another while you figure out what's what, and generally the truth comes out and justice can be served.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jan 12 at 2016 3:50 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Tue, 12 Jan 2016 15:50:27 -0500

It is now a very respected profession as opposed to in the past, pay is good and unless they screw up the medical bennies, that is good also. Not seeing it up to this point. Well maybe the cutting of all the O-3/4s in the Army. That was a screw job plain and simple.

Response by SrA Marlin Taylor made Jan 13 at 2016 8:44 AM

SrA Marlin Taylor — Wed, 13 Jan 2016 08:44:41 -0500

I remember my Dad complaining. He was in the Navy for 22 years. He served in Korea and Vietnam. I remember how I was treated also in the 80s. I actuly had a man growl at me at an airport when I was in my Dress Blues. The times changed. 911 happened. That's where I can honestly say I noticed the difference in how Joe Blow Averagecitizen's attitude changed.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Jan 13 at 2016 10:04 PM

PO1 John Miller — Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:04:09 -0500

Amen!