Do you think the federal government should intervene in Chicago?

SFC Stephen King — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:23:36 -0500

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/01/pastor-says-chicago-gang-members-want-to-work-with-trump-to-lower-body-count.html

Pastor says Chicago gang members want to work with Trump to lower 'body count'

An Ohio pastor told President Trump Wednesday that he has spoken to Chicago gang leaders who want to work with Trump to reduce the body count in the city.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2017 2:28 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:28:33 -0500

SFC Stephen King I believe that police forces and communities should be provided the assistance they need to make cities and towns as safe as we can make them. Chicago might be a good place to start.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2017 2:30 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:30:53 -0500

Clearly the city of Chicago and the state of Illinois haven't been able to make any progress in curbing the violence. Something needs to happen.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Feb 1 at 2017 2:31 PM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:31:21 -0500

I say yes...it has gotten out of hand and dangerous. However, we have to be real careful how it is done because it could set a dangerous precedent.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 1 at 2017 2:32 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:32:48 -0500

No..
I think the Feds should hold the local government responsible for correcting and improving the conditions, lowering the deaths and getting gang members off the streets.
Withhold federal funds until crime related deaths are reduced XX %
Withhold federal funds until violent crime other than causing death is reduced XX %
Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate local leaders and governments role (or lack there of) in reducing crime.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Feb 1 at 2017 2:35 PM

SFC Stephen King — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:35:02 -0500

In looking at the state of our country. Crime, poverty and unemployment I am ready for us to take care of US. I say we need to afford all our resources to get our country in a better posture.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Feb 1 at 2017 2:35 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:35:41 -0500

Depends on what form Federal involvement takes. I'm not sure what can be legally done without the Governor's request. Remember Katrina, one major issue was no request from Governor Blanco, until it was at crisis stage.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2017 2:47 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:47:42 -0500

Sadly, I have to say no. Because even if the Federal Government gets involved, the first thing they will do is create a committee to see what the issue is.......which takes forever and a day for the committee to even be formed and then the time it takes for the committee to determine what their ground rules are.......before they even begin to "investigate." Then depending on the results of the "investigation" are, then they have to talk and talk about what the best course of action will be.........then wait for approval and funds for it. It would literally be a waste of time and taxpayer money. They already have strict gun laws, yet criminals are shooting up people like it's the wild west. Tell the local and state authorities, as SGM Erik Marquez said, that federal dollars will be held back for as long as it takes until they clean house up. And the best place for them to start, is to start looking at local and state people and see what they are and aren't doing, and also look at where the criminals are getting their weapons.....because they aren't getting them at the local gun shop (at least not legally, anyway).

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Feb 1 at 2017 2:51 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:51:41 -0500

Part of Chicago appears to be at war with American citizens. Perhaps, there is a way for the Federal government to make war with the gang bangers.
I would like to see Charles Bronson using Sniper tactics to rid Chicago of the enemy. In a new movie of course.
M. Morris RVT

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Feb 1 at 2017 3:05 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 15:05:43 -0500

Yes. Someone has to.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Feb 1 at 2017 3:10 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 15:10:14 -0500

Nope... cut off Fed dollars... let them handle it alone.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Feb 1 at 2017 3:13 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 15:13:02 -0500

The Obama Justice Department intervened in Albuquerque NM and dozens of other city's. So, why shouldn't Trumps Justice Department intervene in Chicago?

Response by PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM made Feb 1 at 2017 3:46 PM

PO2 Rev. Frederick C. Mullis, AFI, CFM — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 15:46:10 -0500

The biggest problem here is ensuring you do not violate the Posse Comitatus Act. Normally this is done by the GOV. declaring marshal law and sending in the National Guard. Since the mayor is a useless POS and the GOV is just as useless. Then President Trump has to have his Justice Dept tread carefully before removing both for dereliction of duty, in failure to keep the Public Trust and to ensure the Peace. Trump needs to work with The Pastor first, and let him act as a mediator between the Gangs that trust him and the Law Enforcement that is not crooked or on Ram Emmanuel's payroll. Even in the worst Police departments there will shine some Good Cops, so in Chicago, The Force I am sure over all is good, maybe it is the fact that they are hindered by a trash administration , the same was that our Military was hindered by a trash administration. The R.O.E. need to be changed for Chicago and in the sand box. Since I do not know what they are in Chicago, I will defer that to the Pastor and The President to sort that out. as for the Sand Box, where the old ROE under Obama was Kiss their asses and let them go to, so they can try and kill you some other day, the new one should be, Kill the bastards even if the slightest doubt is there, Shoot first question later because they probably have 20 pounds of C-4 packed under their burqa. That way you do not have to spend money on transporting them back to GITMO.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2017 5:32 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:32:24 -0500

Does there intervention involve an "Escape from New York" type scenario?

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Feb 1 at 2017 6:33 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:33:46 -0500

Eliminate the gangs and the calm will come to Chicago. Federal and local cops cracked down on Chicago in the 20's and 30's maybe we need some J. Edgar Hoover in Chicago again to clean out the gangs instead of organized crime and criminals back then. A relentless deluge of law-enforcement to get rid of the criminals and all the crooked cops too!

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Feb 1 at 2017 6:47 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 18:47:00 -0500

The entire administration of Chicago is corrupt and has been for about 100 years and they have stated that they don't want the feds in their city. As cold as it sounds most of those shootings are scum killing other scum so the more the better.