Do you think the Army is making the right move by getting rid of WLC?

2014-06-18T11:47:38-04:00

I am currently in WLC and the SGM told us that there is plans to get rid of WLC completely out, what do you think, right or wrong move?

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2014 11:51 AM

2014-06-18T11:51:00-04:00

Depends on what the plan to replace it with is?

Response by 1SG Chris Brown made Jun 18 at 2014 12:34 PM

2014-06-18T12:34:00-04:00

I've heard of a lot of changes going on with our NCOES and SSD courses, but I have not heard a word about WLC going away. I'll have to watch for that and see what kind of plan is proposed as a replacement.

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jun 18 at 2014 4:16 PM

2014-06-18T16:16:09-04:00

Are they going to totally scrap the training, or merely re-name it and say that it's "new"....?

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Jun 18 at 2014 5:51 PM

2014-06-18T17:51:07-04:00

I heard basic training was going to be on-line soon. SSD(-1). I also heard drill sergeants wouldn't be allowed to type in CAPS.

Response by SGT Shon D. Hill made Jun 18 at 2014 8:31 PM

2014-06-18T20:31:47-04:00

I can't fathom for a moment how a decision like that would cause rapid destruction of the NCO world. PLDC for me was seriously an amazing transition to become a leader. I hope it's all just rumor! Doc Hill

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Jun 18 at 2014 9:42 PM

2014-06-18T21:42:40-04:00

This would be one of THE BIGGEST MISTAKES that the Army could make....it was bad enough when it was dropped to a 15-day course, young NCOs-in-waiting need the curriculum that is provided by WLC from the proven SGLs and Sr SGLs assigned to the NCO Academies.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2014 12:50 PM

2014-06-19T12:50:09-04:00

Am I the only one who thought PLDC / WLC was a complete waste of time?

Response by CSM Mike Maynard made Jun 28 at 2014 9:02 PM

2014-06-28T21:02:44-04:00

No plans to delete or significantly change WLC.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 19 at 2014 9:40 PM

2014-12-19T21:40:33-05:00

Well I'm going for 3 weeks toward the end of next year. Doesn't sound like much has changed in the 6 mos since this was posted.

Response by SPC David S. made Dec 19 at 2014 10:14 PM

2014-12-19T22:14:04-05:00

If this is true I think it is a step in the wrong direction. As the Army reduces its ranks there will be a ton of mental capital leaving the Army as I feel a lot of E6 to E8's will be the ones who are cut on the NCO side. What that means is the individuals left in these ranks are going to in short demand and it will be tougher for them to act as mentors for green NCO's. I think the WLC does a good job in getting troops properly prepared to take on the NCO role. Until things fully wind down this is only going to hurt the Army by cutting it.

Response by SFC Rapfeal Mayfield made Mar 11 at 2015 3:55 PM

2015-03-11T15:55:20-04:00

I haven't heard this news but I think it would be a bad idea for the army to get rid of WLC. Young leaders need this course. It is the basics on being a leader and how the army works.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2015 2:21 PM

2015-03-31T14:21:49-04:00

Why would they get rid of WLC? I don't think that is going to happen. My thought for that is because WLC teaches the essentials to become a leader. So I don't think it will be rid away with.

Response by SSG William Rhodes made Mar 31 at 2015 2:30 PM

2015-03-31T14:30:07-04:00

Absolutely the wrong move! Why would they do such thing? In my opinion is a great development tool for soldiers. Actually, I think they should make it longer. I felt a great sense of achiement after I completed it and that was when it was called PLDC, specially during the graduation ceremony. Maybe they have to molded to today's soldiers but not get rid off it.

Response by SSG William Rhodes made Mar 31 at 2015 2:32 PM

2015-03-31T14:32:02-04:00

What's next SGM's Academy?

Response by 1SG Dustin Springer made Jul 24 at 2015 5:21 AM

2015-07-24T05:21:03-04:00

They are not getting rid of WLC they are changing the name to Basic Leaders Course (BLC). That change is supposed to happen 01 OCT 15. From my understanding they will be changing some of the courseware and modules.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2015 3:03 PM

2015-10-24T15:03:44-04:00

I think it would be a mistake if the Army did this. If anything WLC should be 45 days long for RA and AR. I think this would allow more time to focus on the curriculum, instead of it being crammed.

JM $0.02

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Oct 24 at 2015 3:11 PM

2015-10-24T15:11:53-04:00

First I have ever heard of it. Thanks for the intel. Did the SGM give the reasons behind this decision? As a grunt, I thought WLC/PLDC was a joke but for others it was their first time front of troops, first time in the field, first time doing D & C, etc. Interested to see what the solution will be.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2015 3:39 PM

2015-10-24T15:39:21-04:00

WLC is going away- the name WLC that is. Instead it's going to basic leadership course.

I'm sure other slight changes will be implemented as well but the fundental idea of a development course for Jr. Leaders isn't going anywhere.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 24 at 2015 3:49 PM

2015-10-24T15:49:22-04:00

I respectfully disagree with your SGM. WLC is renamed Basic Leader Course (BLC). The Warrior Leader Course is being evaluated for redesign, and probable shortening through a combination of distributed learning and resident instruction. Whatever the end result, it seems certain that the Warrior Leader Course will be renamed the Basic Leader Course. The ARMY has done this in the past when we changed from the Primary Leadership Development Course (PLDC) to WLC.

Response by SSG Fred Campbell made Oct 24 at 2015 3:58 PM

2015-10-24T15:58:04-04:00

If it's not improved since 2009, yeah it's more of a waste of man power an resources..

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 24 at 2015 8:26 PM

2015-10-24T20:26:31-04:00

I think it is a terrible idea. I looked at a proposed WLC schedule and noticed many skills training that are instrumental for leaders. They will not remember everything, but it will put a large seed in their mind when the skills are needed.

1. We need to standardize skills.
2. Who will train them?
3. We will have NCOs lacking requisite skills?
4. A good foundation of skills is required for further development.