Do you think that Oathkeepers is a radical organization who posses a "threat" to the U.S. goverment?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:12:18 -0400

Oath keepers is a group of Service members, Veterans, police and firefighters who have reaffirmed that they will uphold their oaths and refuse to obey unconstitutional/unlawful orders. You can read their bylaws at their website. The Southern Poverty Law Center has labeled them as a hate group(right-wing, patriotic extremists is the reason given on their website).A small sample survey of LEO's says they are a threat to local, state and federal law enforcement. Whether you agree with the groups opinions or not do you think they be labeled as a hate group when their Bylaws clearly state violence is not accepted?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2014 7:18 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 07:18:48 -0400

Whatever radical views and ideals you may have, God bless you. You're protected under 1st Amendment. You cross the line when you impose physical violence or threat of it, and trespass the boundaries of diplomacy. I have admiration for oath keepers and what they stand for. Heck, I made a reenlistment oath myself not too long ago!

Remember the movie, 'The Rock' with Nicholas Cage, Ed Harris, and Sean Connery? That's a clear trespassing. Don't be 'The Rock'. There's plenty of hope in our country via diplomatic means.

Response by Cpl Anthony Pearson made Aug 11 at 2014 10:22 AM

Cpl Anthony Pearson — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:22:59 -0400

I am ALL ABOUT the Oath Keeper movement. It isn't radical. It is simply a pledge to do right by the American people, and our constitution.

What is radical about that?

We should ALL be signing up for the Oath Keepers. Every. Last. One. Of. Us.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2014 7:28 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:28:33 -0400

I don't know much about the Oath Keepers, but I know plenty about the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I'm not very impressed with them. They're not quite at the level of the UN (ie, if the UN is against it, I'm pretty sure I'm for it), but their stock-in-trade is crying wolf while keeping JUST enough legitimate stuff on their books to be able to intimidate their opposition in a buy-one-get-one-free deal on moral outrage.

Response by SGT Donald Howard made Oct 12 at 2014 4:58 AM

SGT Donald Howard — Sun, 12 Oct 2014 04:58:41 -0400

This is another example of why the FBI stopped its association with the SPLC.What is truly interesting is how they came to the conclusion that their oath to refuse to obey or enforce any unconstitutional or unlawfull orders as being extreme and a threat to local,state and federal law enforcement.I would think that as service members,veterans and law enforcement officers,refusing to follow any directive that violates the very principles of the nation is in the keeping of our sworn duty.The SPLC is a left leaning organization and their ideological view I believe is the factor here.

Response by SPC(P) Thomas Beliveau made Oct 19 at 2014 2:30 AM

SPC(P) Thomas Beliveau — Sun, 19 Oct 2014 02:30:51 -0400

I would be very, very careful with movements like this and associating with them. Personally I have no stake in this on either side, but groups like this tend to attract the wrong type of people. It would probably be most prudent to stay away from anything like this until you are out of the military.