Do you think Islam really hates us like everyone says?

SSG Jesse Cheadle — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:33:27 -0500

All I hear about Islam is they all hate Americans. I hear people spreading hate on Islam like its Ibuprofen. I just want everyone to think for 1 minute before responding. I am appalled after this paradigm shift. If the hate existed like everyone I hear say, we would have ZERO returning servicemembers from Iraq and Afghanistan. If we succumb to the hate we fuel the radicals. We must see things as they are. Not every one person from one particular religion is what the majority of the masses believe. Extremists exist is every religion and every culture.

Response by SSgt Obom Bowen made Mar 12 at 2016 8:38 PM

SSgt Obom Bowen — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:38:37 -0500

I respect everyone for their beliefs, as I have the right to mine. Thanks for sharing

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Mar 12 at 2016 8:47 PM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:47:45 -0500

Those of the extreme faith who can't accept how others live hate everyone who don't believe the way they do. No matter if they're American or what.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Mar 12 at 2016 8:54 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:54:56 -0500

I have read through the Koran a couple times and understand that it needs to be interpreted so that the later Sura [chapter] has precedence over earlier Sura text if there is a conflict SSG Jesse Cheadle. In the earlier Sura you will find positive references to the people of the book [Christians and Jews]. The Muslim prophet Mohammed interacted with people who had rudimentary knowledge of Judaism and Christina teaching and doctrine which is why Biblical characters are mixed in the stories included in the Koran. The most famous switch is Ismael for Isaac but Noah and Isaiah are listed as prophets of Allah in the Koran as opposed to how Noah is treated in the Bible and Isaiah describes himself in the book by his name.
Muslims are called to rule over non-Muslims in the Caliphate and when they reach the majority of influence in a culture or state they do their best to rule that way. Muslims do not hate all citizens of the USA only those who do not embrace the Koran as the holy book and Mohammed as its greatest prophet.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 9:06 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:06:13 -0500

Keep in mind that Islam is the extremist of the Muslim religion. Not all Muslims are extremist but all Muslim Islamics are. There is a lady I can't remember her name off the top of my head who talks about this. She did the documentary about the Muslim females who had acid thrown on them. Why do service members come back because the country is not full of Islam well it wasn't until we pulled out and the deash (IsIs) took over. Islam kills Muslims who they feel are not living fully by the Quran.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 9:08 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:08:43 -0500

SSG Jesse Cheadle I haven't seen it characterized as every person who is a Muslim is a radical. However we cannot deny that organizations such as ISIL, Hamas, and those who practice the strict Wahhabi form of Islam do teach children in a manner demonizing the West as well as Christians, Jews and other "unbelievers.". Their curriculum encourages violence towards nonbelievers and guides the students into the belief that violent actions, to include killing are necessary to safeguard their own religion.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 12 at 2016 9:52 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:52:32 -0500

I don't hate Islam. In fact, I don't know anyone who hates Islam.

I don't understand why "If the hate existed like everyone I hear say, we would have ZERO returning servicemembers from Iraq and Afghanistan." You'll have to explain that one to me. I simply don't get it. Sounds like a non sequitur to me, but I could be wrong.

I'm not worried about succumbing to hate. I am worried about those who want to stifle our urge to defend ourselves for fear of offending someone. No, not every person from one particular religion is what the majority of the masses believe. I suspect they may not be what you believe. Again, I could be wrong...

Response by SGT Philip Keys made Mar 12 at 2016 10:10 PM

SGT Philip Keys — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:10:28 -0500

Not every religion is chopping off people's heads in today's societies except one. Maybe you can host one of the refugees when they come to your state.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Mar 12 at 2016 10:13 PM

TSgt Kenneth Ellis — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:13:51 -0500

Does it matter. They are running the agenda.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 10:47 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:47:24 -0500

I'm a practicing Muslim service-member. I hold all of you in the same regard as I do my three siblings. That sentiment is perfectly in line with the tenants of my faith. I don't know how you can skew the Qur'an into directing otherwise, but keep in mind that most of these extremists don't even allow their constituents to read and interpret the book for themselves.

As far as the other side of the coin goes, I have NEVER, and I emphasize the word NEVER, experienced any distrust towards me from my fellow soldiers and those appointed over me because of my faith. Outside of the military, it's a different case. But never in the military. That's why I firmly believe that our service-members are the best of the best cross-section of people this country has to offer.

Response by SGT Stefan Humphrey made Mar 12 at 2016 10:51 PM

SGT Stefan Humphrey — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:51:19 -0500

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2016 10:54 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:54:16 -0500

No, only radicalized groups make up the members of Islam that you are addressing. They are the one percent that is making people judge the entire religion. Think about if all Muslims thought that all Christians act like the people from Westburo Baptist . I know it is not as extreme but you get the concept.

Response by CPT Jason Torpy made Mar 12 at 2016 11:00 PM

CPT Jason Torpy — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 23:00:15 -0500

Islam is a religion no a person or even a group of people. Thinking all Muslims are the same is racism. Islam isn't a race, but racism is a good term.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Mar 12 at 2016 11:35 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 23:35:32 -0500

Next week, I intend to buy a copy of their holy book and look for myself!

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Mar 12 at 2016 11:35 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 23:35:45 -0500

Hold on a second.....Staff are you saying:
ALL white people aren't bigots?
ALL black people are felons, thug, and welfare queens?
ALL Christians turn the other cheek?
ALL Muslims aren't terrorists?
ALL Hispanics aren't illegals?
ALL of the Dallas Cowboys are good players?
ALL Gays and members of the LGBT spread AIDS and other STD's to straight people?
ALL women are good for is making sammiches, being barefoot and preggers with no place in a mans world?
ALL of the ghettos are full of blacks, barrios with Hispanics, trailer parks with whites?
ALL of America HAS to believe in Christ to survive?
ALL of the effective leaders in America HAVE to be white being that white IS right?
ALL of us should cross the street to the other side if you see me walking towards you? I'm black you know.
ALL Police officers are bad people with Napoleon syndrome?
ALL of those who suffer from PTSD are violent, untrustworthy individuals who should be shunned from the military?
ALL of the GOP hate the 47% of America
ALL of the Dems love the 47% of America
ALL black men can be shut up with a basketball or football.
ALL black men are scared of reading books
ALL white men hate that their bedsheets are the same as their Klan robes.

I wrote that to show how absurd people are willing to go to show stark and absolute contrasts that are NOT true, but since those "in the know" say it, it must be true. How people allow lamestream media and personal bias cloud the truth, or suit their narrative. But cannot allow simple truths to show through. If it's negative, believe it. If it's a good thing, that never could possibly happen in real life. Wake up folks and see that no one owns a monopoly on ignorance. Too much good in the world to be focused on the bad. But if that's how you want to live your life in constant FEAR disguised as "strength" or "confidence", then you're missing out on a lot. Sucks to be you.

Response by SPC Paul Prevost made Mar 13 at 2016 12:01 AM

SPC Paul Prevost — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 00:01:53 -0500

As in so many things in this world, a "little" knowledge is a dangerous thing. The basic tenants of Islam is a Global Theocracy that is Islam. People talk of Muslims as if they are a Race of people, that is horseshit, anyone who believes in the Koran as their bible and claims to believe in that religion is Islamic. The same as a person who may claim to be a Christian. Jews are Hebrews and can be classed as a Racial Class but are not a Race. Now as I understand the Islamic Religion, if you want to go to heaven you have to swear diligence to the Koran and follow its edicts, some of these include making a once in your life Pilgrimage to Mecca and other "Religious" things. The Koran as it is interpreted can have many belief groups just like most religions. The Extremists often bend the wording to fit their agenda not unlike many other religions followers do. It is also my understanding that there is no way to interpret the Koran other than the literal translations on some very important subjects. Like the Global caliphate. If you truly believe in Islam you must do something with your life that will further the growth of Islam and its march to the Global caliphate. Period. You have to or you are not a Muslim and you will not go to heaven. You as a Muslim must not submit to any other form of Religion or Government other wise you are not a Muslim and you will not go to Heaven. These things fly directly in the face of the American belief system and defies our Government and our Constitution. There have been a couple of surveys done across the USA that asked so called moderate Muslims directly if they believed that as an American they should acclimate to our society and submit to our governments laws and set of rules and the majority of them said they would not and could not because they believed in Islam, the Koran and that they would always be Muslim and must work at installing Sharia Law as the Law of the land in the USA and the whole world. So, as to the question of 'Does Islam HATE us'? No, Islam does not hate us. Certain Muslims hate us. Islam just wants to wipe us from the face of the earth so they can have their caliphate and frankly does not care if they have to kill us quickly as the Extremists want to or simply over populate every country in the world thus slowly overwhelming us and forcing us to become part of Islam or chocked out like weeds do to grass. So, lets see, no Islam does not hate us, Most Muslims do not hate us, I do not hate Muslims, I do hate Islam because its core tenants are to dissolve my beloved Country and put an end to my Society and I gladly went to Iraq to fight and kill to stop these people and I will gladly do it here too.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 13 at 2016 12:15 AM

COL Charles Williams — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 00:15:57 -0500

No SSG Jesse Cheadle. Only a small fraction of all Islam (I hope) hates us.

Response by Sgt Nick Marshall made Mar 13 at 2016 12:27 AM

Sgt Nick Marshall — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 00:27:40 -0500

No, it is fear mongering to get votes and money for defence, period.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Mar 13 at 2016 1:01 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 01:01:52 -0500

Large segments of it do.

Response by SSG James Hunt made Mar 13 at 2016 1:03 AM

SSG James Hunt — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 01:03:30 -0500

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by Capt Chris McVeigh made Mar 13 at 2016 1:45 AM

Capt Chris McVeigh — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 01:45:07 -0500

Every group has radicals, they are called radicals for a reason. You can find them in every religion and every country.

Response by CW3(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 6:06 AM

CW3(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 06:06:11 -0400

The biggest problem with people is tgey will generalize but hate to be generalized. We all know not everyone that belongs to a certain race, religion, ideology, etc. are like the extremist faction but get lumped in anyway. I guess its a defense mechanism used to get caught of guard. The answer is no cause like you said if that was true would be no soldiers left

Response by SGT Angel Gonzalez made Mar 13 at 2016 6:39 AM

SGT Angel Gonzalez — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 06:39:14 -0400

First off great question. Second I believe that Islam as a faith doesn't hate, but like every religion there are people that pervert the scriptures for their own selfish cause.

Response by CSM William Payne made Mar 13 at 2016 7:41 AM

CSM William Payne — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 07:41:29 -0400

Islam is one of the worlds largest religions. There are over a billion practicing Muslims. If even a small fraction of them are radicalized you are still talking about a lot of people relatively speaking.

As for the comment below about if they all hated us there would be zero Solders coming home from say Iraq or Afghanistan. Let's compare numbers. 150 - 175,000 Soldiers vs the 30 million people population of Iraq. IF that 30 million people hated us so bad and we did provide them some incentive to given the carnage, destruction and chaos we have brought upon their country, maybe all us us wouldn't have been killed but certainly many, many more than the approximately 4,500 that did die over there.

My job in Iraq was to build the Iraqi Army. I spent a year traveling to remote FOBs where our Soldiers were outnumbered as much as 400 trainees vs 8 of ours. Thirty minutes at least from the nearest QRF. If they wanted to kill us it would have been too easy.

I found the majority of Iraqis to be peace loving people that just wanted the same things that most American want; to live, work and worship in peace and safety for their families. Outside their direct contact with Coalition forces they could care less about what is happening outside of their country, they have enough problems to worry about internally.

And many of the Iraqis I have talked to were very knowledgable of the stories of the bible and their country's part of it. The Garden of Eden, Babylon, the birthplace of Abraham, Nevideh, and on and on. It must be killing them to see the destruction the ISIS is doing to their heritage.

Keep in mind that before we invaded Iraq and deposed of Saddam that Iraq was home to one of the largest Christian populations of all the Muslim countries, and that they lived there in relative peace and without persecution. Not so much anymore.

ALL religions have their good and bad. How many people have died over the centuries in wars based mainly on religious differences?

When I asked the question as to why the Sunnis and Shia can't get along, I get asked what about the Catholics and Protestants in Ireland?

Any religious tenant can be interpreted for good or bad depending on who is doing the interpretation and their intent to do good or evil.

The Old Testament was one of the most violent stories ever told, to the point where an angry God wiped out most of mankind for their sins.

Jesus Christ changed all that by taking the sins of the people onto himself, showing love, grace, humility and forgiveness for mankind. I often wonder of what he would think about how many so called Christians practice his religion today?

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 10:24 AM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:24:15 -0400

I have a simple saying I believe fits most cases in life..."Fear is the absence of knowledge". People often hate because it is the unknown. Every religion has or had extremists.

Response by SSG Byron Hewett made Mar 13 at 2016 10:43 AM

SSG Byron Hewett — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:43:57 -0400

esprit de corps

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Mar 13 at 2016 10:47 AM

SrA Edward Vong — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:47:35 -0400

I'm gonna leave this right here.

Response by MSG Jay Jackson made Mar 13 at 2016 10:49 AM

MSG Jay Jackson — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:49:52 -0400

I thought that Mohammad was the example of what a Muslim should be and do. So I guess marrying a 12 year old girl is permissible? Do we still believe that it is ok to kill our daughters if they dishonor the family? It still happens in in the Islamic world, hell it has happened here in the states. I do not think that all Muslims are terrorist. But there is a large amount of evidence that a lot of them are. How many Baptist, Jews or Catholics have attacked mosques lately? Read about how ISIL or ISIS has been exterminating the Christians living in the areas they occupy. Yea sounds like a religion of love and peace to me! Where are the moderates Muslims speaking out against this? Where are the thousands of moderates volunteering to go fight ISIS and show the world that these guys do not represent Islam and that they have high jacked Islam? I think they are all ran off to Europe and are now bringing their religion and values to this part of the world.
The Quran is not the only book or reference to this faith. The Hadith and Sunnah will further explain the teachings and belief of this religion to those interested in learning more on this subject.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 11:41 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:41:24 -0400

I believe no one is born to hate. It is definitely something that is taught. Do to fear, the unknown, jealousy, ect it manifests into a thought of hate. That hate seed is planted and then grows in those who allow it to be fed.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 12:29 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:29:17 -0400

In order not to further confuse others, Muslim or spelled Moslem in other parts of the world is not a faith. A Muslim is one who follows the religion of Islam. I beilieve that like in any other major religion, there have been those who have interpreted testimonials from a "holy book" and extremized or currently extremizing their beliefs. We have witnessed this in the past with the Catholic Church inquisition, Christian atrocities and others named in history.

Response by CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar made Mar 13 at 2016 12:33 PM

CPT Quentin von Éfáns-Taráfdar — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:33:08 -0400

As true as this is (after all what would non-Christians think of Christianity by the way most of conduct ourselves) I see no non radical Muslims doing anything to curb their "brethern".

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Mar 13 at 2016 1:10 PM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:10:46 -0400

Islam in general, no, radical elements within the organization that foster hate and ill will towards anyone not Muslim, yes. I would say the vast majority of service members know the difference, as well as the majority of Americans, but like with all things there are those that believe that all Muslims hate us.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Mar 13 at 2016 2:12 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:12:21 -0400

Do all Muslims hate the US and the Western World? No. Do they want to be us? No. Would they be happy to convert us by argument or force to belief in Islam? Yes.

Islam is a religion. Muslim is the name for a person who submits to that religion. Islam teaches the supremacy of laws and beliefs that are incompatible with the basic beliefs on which the United States and most modern Western nations were established. The teachings of Islam are incompatible with the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Their long-term goal is to convert all people to Islam and establish a 7th Century style theocratic government (Caliphate) over all the Earth. Their god (Allah) is not the same as the Jewish YHWH, or the Christian Holy Father, and they do not accept Jesus Christ as God and Savior. Unlike the immigrants from non-Muslim countries, most will not fully assimilate into the culture of the United States. They may become US Citizens, but never true believers in our form of government, commerce, and liberty.

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 13 at 2016 2:33 PM

Maj John Bell — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:33:50 -0400

This is not excusing what terrorists do. Throughout history, people have come under the sway of evil men and done evil things.

I served on diplomatic security duty in Eastern Africa for 2 and a half years. I made friends with a lot of locals. There were a lot of Pakistani Expatriates in Kenya. Once over a beer, (yes some muslims drink beer, even though they are not supposed to.) a man I considered a friend, then and now, explained to me that one day the 12th Imam would arrive. The 12th Imam would demand a cleansing of the infidels, and that I and my son would be put to the sword if I would not convert and my wife and daughter would be placed in servitude. He smiled the whole time he was saying this. He then announced that the 12th Imam was not here today, so it was time for another beer. I strongly suspect that he was making a joke. It may not have even been scripturally correct, but he never cleared it up.

Abraham believed that the Lord wanted him to sacrifice Isaac on an altar, and in the end he was prepared to do it. We admire Abraham for his faith. I've never heard a sermon castigating him for entertaining the idea of killing his son. If a Christian believed he was directly called upon by God to do a horrible thing, what would he do?

I believe the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace and raise their children with the belief that things can be better for the next generation. I also suspect that virtually every older religion has passages in its holy scriptures that directly tell believers to kill/oppress non-believers, or passages that can be twisted that way.

Beware false prophets.

Response by SSgt Christopher Brose made Mar 13 at 2016 3:42 PM

SSgt Christopher Brose — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:42:35 -0400

I don't know what to make of the OP in this thread. If ALL you hear is they ALL hate Americans, it makes me wonder who the hell you are listening to.

Response by MAJ Raúl Rovira made Mar 13 at 2016 5:14 PM

MAJ Raúl Rovira — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:14:01 -0400

The short answer is no. And it is unfair to label an entire group.

There is a tendency to hate, dislike and/or fear things we do not understand. Unfortunately the media and social media can distort things. Likely worse is the "I heard from so and so..."

ISIS and Al-Qaeida are bad, and so were many of the conquistadores in the Americas. We can't judge an entire race/culture/religion... on the bad ones. This is where I ask, "Are we taking steps to educate ourselves and if possible experience a bit of their world".

I lived in Cairo, Egypt for 18 months. I loved seeing men at the local shisha bar and coffee place talking. Some were Muslim, others Coptic, and often I was in the mix with them. I enjoyed the celebrations of Ramadan and the many iftar meals in different cities with our coworkers. I always felt welcomed.

Living and working in 8 countries for over 10 years has shown me and taught me how similar we all are but also how different we can be from each others cultural/religious point of view.

SSG Jesse Cheadle, Your statement "Extremists exist in every religion and culture" is on point.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 13 at 2016 5:35 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:35:04 -0400

I believe they use the USA as a rallying cry to unite to include by action. The USA is the evil Western power who is anti-Muslim.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 5:50 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:50:40 -0400

I don't know, i haven't ask the millions upon millions of Muslims, whether they hater America. This number includes those I serve with. But, I have met very few "Americans" who have not asked me what my nationality is. Lol.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2016 10:50 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:50:21 -0400

I think a majority of Muslims do, but not nearly the entire two billion. It only takes nineteen to kill thousands, though, as we have seen.

Response by MAJ James Woods made Mar 13 at 2016 11:02 PM

MAJ James Woods — Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:02:42 -0400

Well said. Islam hates no one no more than Judaism or Christianity does. Going a step further, Muslims in general that practice Islam don't hate America. Extremist hate groups that distort their religion are the only ones I'll declare as the enemy of any society. it is ashame some media and politicians prey on fears with such rhetoric.

Response by SSG Leo Bell made Mar 14 at 2016 7:56 AM

SSG Leo Bell — Mon, 14 Mar 2016 07:56:59 -0400

It is more of fear of the unknown why people say that Islamic people hate us. I have friends that are Islamic and we get along just fine. It's the radical Islamic that do not like American. There are people all over the world that dislike American and America. I can't say it's a reason to give people the right to be racist, because racist people have been around since the beginning of man. Islamic people started this war with America in 2001 and for that people feels it's right to hate them. They are judging a religion on the acts of a few crazies.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Mar 14 at 2016 11:07 AM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:07:03 -0400

Define hate. Many define hate simply as me disagreeing with their views or lifestyle.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2016 11:29 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:29:26 -0400

Islam is a religion. Religions don't hate, humans hate.

Do certain verses in the Koran and the oral transitions marginalize the lives of women and non Muslims. Absolutely.
Does that mean all Muslims are bad; of course not.
What can clearly be said though is that not enough moderate Muslims who are being courageous and speaking up and demanding tolerance. Not enough petition for other religions to be tolerated, never mind respected. It is illegal to build a church or synagogue or even practice another religion in most Muslim countries. No one calls them on this hypocrisy and too many in the muslin world are comfortable denying others the same tolerance for their beliefs, personal and religious rights and freedoms that they expect to enjoy in the United States and Europe. In addition the world is tolerating a Muslim genocide of middle eastern Christians. Meanwhile the UN, US and Europe are cowardly and quietly ignoring the loss of these people because they are either unimportant, not preferred or it simply not politically correct to protect Christian lives when it conflicts with Islamic extremist agendas.
The problem is allowing people to spread hatred intolerance and bigotry. It doesn't matter if it is the majority or minority spreading it. Everyone should enjoy the same human rights

Response by SSgt Koree Copeland made Mar 15 at 2016 7:07 AM

SSgt Koree Copeland — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:07:56 -0400

It's pretty simple. Muslims in the middle east hate us. You're more than welcome to go there on your own. I won't stop you haha. Fly away, be free!!!!

Response by Cpl Jon Westbrook made Mar 15 at 2016 9:01 AM

Cpl Jon Westbrook — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 09:01:08 -0400

While I applaud anyone who refrains from generalizations about particular groups of people, I disagree. Is everyone a terrorist? No. But you have to understand that Islam exists to spread Islam. This is the only religion in the world that allows its subjects to lie and be deceitful, and otherwise disregard morality as long as it is for the good of Islam. Ultimately the goal of the religion is world domination and Sharia law, which would literally be taking our civilization back 4000 years.

I believe Muslims deserve the same rights as everyone else, and I wouldn't treat one any differently on the street than I do to any other people. I've even had Muslim friends in the past, although I fundamentally disagree with the concept of Islam. The short version here is that I don't think all Muslims are terrorists, but tolerating radical Islam is just as bad in my book.

Response by SSG Jesse Cheadle made Mar 15 at 2016 10:13 AM

SSG Jesse Cheadle — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:13:16 -0400

More specifically, the question is more of the Muslim population not Islam. I do understand the Military is more culturally aware than our civillian sect. I do know there are good and bad everywhere. I am simply trying to highlight what I hear from our frontrunners for POTUS and media outlets. Not to mention, churches and the general proclamation of Americans. If the West is the infidel we would have a much higher and dramatic increase of casualties in the Middle East. That was more the thought process when I posted that. The incidents here in the US have been isolated at best.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2016 10:58 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 10:58:19 -0400

The people that are saying that probably have not deployed within the last fifteen years. If they had, there is no way they could have missed all of the Soldiers, both ours and host nation that were Muslim and fought beside us. What about the linguists that make operations possible? What about all of our allies throughout the world fighting our common enemy? To say the terrorists represent the whole of Islam is like saying the most ignorant and hateful of our citizens represent us.

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Mar 15 at 2016 11:13 AM

MSgt Michael Smith — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 11:13:43 -0400

The media frames it that way because it builds fear and insecurity. Fear and Insecurity leads more people to watch the news and read from their websites. In Communications Theory it is known as Agenda Setting. By setting the agenda, the media spins what is a highly exaggerated narrative that suits their financial goals. At the same time, we, as viewers, selectively perceive and retain what best aligns with our internal world view. We pay more attention to the negative stories because they fit into our mental images better. This is how things get so warped that people now believe and preach ideologies that 5 years ago would be unheard of. Absorbing only what fits into your world view severally skews your sense of reality.

Response by CAPT Michael W. Langston, PhD, DMin made Mar 15 at 2016 12:21 PM

CAPT Michael W. Langston, PhD, DMin — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 12:21:29 -0400

I think there is only a small radicalized component that hates Christians and Americans.

Response by SSG Delanda Hunt made Mar 15 at 2016 2:12 PM

SSG Delanda Hunt — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:12:00 -0400

Yeah they just about hate everyone including other Muslims. They will never change because their religion would not allow them too.

Response by CPO Amb. Terry Earthwind Nichols made Mar 15 at 2016 7:44 PM

CPO Amb. Terry Earthwind Nichols — Tue, 15 Mar 2016 19:44:16 -0400

Spot on! People are people. Good, bad, no sense, etc. There are more Muslims in the world than Christians.

Response by SGT B. Kevin Blair made Mar 16 at 2016 6:00 AM

SGT B. Kevin Blair — Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:00:23 -0400

You summed it up in your last sentence ," Extremists exist is every religion and every culture." The one thing that I do know being Desert Storm Vet from the 1st gulf war up to and including this day ,you don't ever see any Muslims or Muslim groups denounce any Islamic extremist attacks and I do have a problem with that !

Response by SPC Greg Andle made Mar 16 at 2016 8:07 AM

SPC Greg Andle — Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:07:33 -0400

I spent 8 years living in Sydney, Au from 2000-2008, and the only person who had an issue with me was a Taliban refuge. I was working at TYCO, and on 9/11, this douche got in my face, praising the actions of the brave ones. It was other Muslims who put him in his place and "protected" me. Some of the nicest people I have met while living there were Muslims...most of them from war torn Countries in one way or another caused by American involvement, yet non of them showed any anger towards me.

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Mar 16 at 2016 8:03 PM

PVT Raymond Lopez — Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:03:39 -0400

Some do some don't!

Response by SSG Darin McNeely made Mar 19 at 2016 9:53 PM

SSG Darin McNeely — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 21:53:45 -0400

Hate is hate regardless the religion of the person. Islam promotes peace,with obvious (in current times) harsh elements embedded for one reason or another. It's the ones that focus only on the violence and indescriminate killing that I'd like to grind to dust. And I'm a Muslim covert from 98'

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2016 11:10 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 11:10:03 -0400

Muslim or Islam does not hate America or Americans; the religion of true followers are against anything or anyone with different ideology. To say that no one would return from Iraq or Afghanistan is really naive. We did not return from Iraq or Afghanistan because Muslims loved us; we returned because we are stronger. If it was up to Muslims, we would are perish. So SSG Jesse, get it right

Response by SSG Melvin N. made May 17 at 2017 12:07 PM

SSG Melvin N. — Wed, 17 May 2017 12:07:10 -0400

Could be why some of them are not bothered by killing their own also? Do to the level of their faith in the religion they choose to follow or have been raised to believe in. I forgot me it sick how some minds can think, to include my own at times.

Response by SPC Paul Vaneizenga made Feb 18 at 2018 12:10 PM

SPC Paul Vaneizenga — Sun, 18 Feb 2018 12:10:44 -0500

No. But all it takes is a radical imam to turn an entire mosque into an army.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 9 at 2018 9:06 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Wed, 09 May 2018 21:06:04 -0400

Remember- The Koran was written after the death of Christ, with Christ we moved form the Eye for an Eye of the Old Testament to turn the other cheek with the New testament. Islam has no New Testament period- The Koran does spell out charity, good doing, etc. But it also still has the parts about killing Infidels and non-believers, and it's punishments are strictly Old Testament- stoning, cutting of limbs, blinding, etc. The problem is every religion has things that can be used against non-believers, but Islam radicals have a lot to choose from. Suggest you read the history of the Spread of Islam- only the Mongols out did them in cruelty.