Posted on Jan 27, 2014
SSG Philip Cotton
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Sometimes we all get caught up in the moment and we drop the F-bomb when talking about a situation that just seems to deserve a little more colorful wording. For the most part, it seems that many members of the Military take cursing as just another element of being in the Armed Services. What are your thoughts on when it is okay to? I personally never curse when civilians are around. I think we have a porfessional image to uphold infront of them.  
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SFC Stephen P.
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Amongst peers, the image of professionalism is less valuable. In front of subordinates, it can build cohesion when used strategically. In front of superiors and external parties (civilians)&nbsp; it reduces our credibility.<br><br>Like anything, you tailor your message to your audience. Unfortunately, many of us don't know how to turn it off. <br>
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SSG Mike Angelo
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SFC Stephan,

Cursing and bad language is a condition out of habit with personal leadership skill sets. Cursing is normal when overlaps into the other social settings, and when it becomes an automatic reaction or a trained response. When it becomes a trained response, this behavior reflects on the individual's professional leadership skills, the unit and on the branch of service.

This is why professional development is important. Personal and professional leadership is addressed and nurtured.
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SFC Marcus Belt
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This is the correct answer. Know your target audience and adjust accordingly.

However, we are NOT Apple, or Google...we kill people and break stuff, or enable and facilitate same. There is an incredible level of hypocrisy involved with someone who is fine with a Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine taking another human's life, but is offended by that same service members "f-bomb".
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AN Eric Lewis
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It is very uncomfortable to be with my pre-school grandkids in line behind a couple of soldiers at the grocery store and every third word from them is the f-bomb. Been there. I don't want those soldiers to be nice when they are facing our enemies, but I also don't like explaining to all the children why the soldiers are all using bad words.
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I agree with the posts that say in a professional setting it is not appropriate, however there are times and places that cursing can be used to add a little extra "shock value" to the conversation.&nbsp; I am not advocating dropping a hundred F bombs, but sometimes you need to drop to the lowest common denominator to get your point across.&nbsp; WIth that being said, those times should be far and few between or you just wind up looking like a foul-mouthed a-hole.&nbsp; just my 2 cents.
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LTC Joseph Gross
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I would have agreed with this position a couple of decades ago however times have changed. I had this pointed out to me when as a BCT company commander I discussed initial entry training with the Marine Corps. Their point was that a DS/DI isn't shocking anyone by cursining in initial entry training. In today's society those kids have heard worse from their mom, their teachers and their friends. All we're doing is coming down to their level. Better to shock them with stone cold professionalism.
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When I want my men to remember something important, to really make it stick, I give it to them double dirty. It may not sound nice to some bunch of little old ladies at an afternoon tea party, but it helps my soldiers to remember. You can't run an army without profanity; and it has to be eloquent profanity. An army without profanity couldn't fight its way out of a piss-soaked paper bag. ... As for the types of comments I make, sometimes I just, By God, get carried away with my own eloquence.
--General George S. Patton Jr.
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SSG Mike Angelo
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SFC Robert,

Out here in my world, I could be sued for disrespect and declination of character for being the king of insults. Even worse, jail time or prison. There are many veterans in American prisons due to violent language and unlawful deeds associated with the former. Mostly former enlisted and not too many former officers go to prison, serving time for being a violent character.

I agree with LTC Jones about stone cold professionalism.

And Sgt Arron's leadership style to me is off the grid, but I was a small team leader back in the day and did my share of yelling, cursing and just going ballistic.

I believe that in these styles that are off the grid, a leader goes through a maturation phase. Like a growing phase. Later in life, the body does change with the seasons; hence a seasoned leader.

All the while profanity creates a lonely and isolated environment for that particular leader.

More so if halitosis and bad gas are the mixture within the exchange.

The military is for the young. For those like Sgt Aaron, I am not passing judgement, however this type of profane behavior may cost you your job on the outside, and/or loss of freedom in certain settings. It is different out here, so while you are in, get it out of your system before you ETS... IMHO.
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SP5 Joe Bierce
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"...lowest common denominator."
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SSG Senior Supply Sergeant
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SPC(P) Cotton, cursing is extremely unprofessional and I admit, I do get caught in the moment at times. However, I make a strong effort not to use profanity.
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SSG Philip Cotton
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I agree with you for the most part SSG. I have made a big effort to stop doing it. Now that I work in HR, it has turned from an "I should stop" to an "I MUST stop."
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Well put..

 

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