Do you guys think the American Military is becoming the British Army when we fought them in the Revolutionary War (when it comes to ROE)?

2016-04-30T10:02:21-04:00

The atmosphere of the gentleman warfare during the Revolutionary War where we are hindered by ROES where other countries that are in the UN coalition during OEF have totally different ROEs than the Americans.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Apr 30 at 2016 10:10 AM

2016-04-30T10:10:06-04:00

No, not at all. However, the Administration definitely looks a lot like King George.

Response by SSG Mathew Ada made Apr 30 at 2016 10:14 AM

2016-04-30T10:14:58-04:00

I don't see any correlation between the two. If that were the case, we'd reflect an ROE of an imperial military that is solely for the profit of our government. Though it may seem that we are similar on a global scale on an individual perspective; our strategic goals are not that of resources and riches but for the sovereignty of allied freed nations to further the advancement of man. Kind of hard to accomplish when most people still cling on to archaic means of trade and life style.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Apr 30 at 2016 11:45 AM

2016-04-30T11:45:25-04:00

There was a certain military doctrine used during the Revolution, but not too sure about ROEs. From all I have read and seen, they were vicious and little quarter given by either side. We won for a couple of reasons, not the least of which was using any global standards for warfare. Kind of like fighting the VC in Vietnam with our ROEs.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2016 12:06 PM

2016-04-30T12:06:22-04:00

I teach ROE and Law of Armed Conflict rouyinely and get questions like this a lot. In response, I usually ask when was the last time you read the SROE. Its actually very hands off. All you need is hostile intent/hostile act. Hell, a declared hostile force can be killed on site without HA/HI.

Response by MCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2016 1:52 PM

2016-04-30T13:52:22-04:00

SSG, are you saying that the Brits got their butts handed to them because the Colonists were "guerrillas" in the treeline?

That is a 200 year old urban legend. The Rebels got their (our) collective asses kicked until we fielded good and properly trained troops (thank you LaFayette and von Steuben!!). Until the day we fielded lined-up troops all marching pretty in formation, we didn't win a battle.

So, while your core question has merit (the merits of ROEs), the basis for this question is faulty.

Response by CPT Joseph K Murdock made Apr 30 at 2016 7:45 PM

2016-04-30T19:45:31-04:00

I firmly believe setting ROE should be the ground commanders and the POTUS should not take liberty in partaking of such.