Do you feel that there is a bigger picture to this black vs. white stigma that is plaguing our nation?

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Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jul 11 at 2016 8:59 AM

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Heck yeah there's a bigger picture behind all this separation we are forcing ourselves into. I made the comment to another friend that we as a nation have lost site of things. Just look back on how this nation came together following the attacks on 9/11. There were no "Black Lives Matter", "Blue Lives Matter", "White Lives Matter"; it was "American Lives Matter". Is there a problem with racism? Yes there is. Do some people get the bad end of the stick based on race, greed, gender (or gender-identification), wealth, or education? Absolutely. But the bigger picture as I see it is we have become a nation divided and as President Lincoln said all those years a go, "a house divided cannot stand".

Response by SSG Stephan Pendarvis made Jul 11 at 2016 9:00 AM

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Yup. As long as there are labels the will Always be stigmas in some form.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 9:25 AM

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Oh indeed, but our current admin is more eager to start our a race war and set ourselves back 100 years. A workplace problem if you will,

Response by LCpl Cody Collins made Jul 11 at 2016 9:52 AM

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Duh, ya Think ! And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Revelation 6:3‭-‬4 KJV
http://bible.com/1/rev.6.3-4.KJV

This is the Bigger picture you asked about. It's a Spiritual problem, and only Jesus Christ can solve it. This nation has rejected the God of Heaven and Earth, and has embraced homosexuality and LBGT'S. To the point that our young Children want their sex changed or wacked off, God is not the Author of Confusion, along great with these things come Hatred, racism, revenge and bloodshed and heartache.
But men let pride stand in the way of doing what is right, which is to repent and turn back to the only Begotten Son of God, full of Grace and Truth. He will forgive our sins and heal our Land.

Revelation 6:3-4, King James Version (KJV)

And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 10:40 AM

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There has always been tension and being a police officer has always been a dangerous job. Even one police officers killed in the line of duty is one to many, and even one civilian killed by police who wasn't activity threatening their lives is one to many... That said, the only thing that leads us to believe that the situation is getting worse is how the media is reporting it. Despite recent horrific tragedies it's not more dangerous to be a police officer: http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2016/07/08/124-u-s-police-officers-died-in-the-line-of-duty-last-year-infographic/#7cf7a02878a3 It it is still more dangerous to be a Black man than it is a White man: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

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Response by 1LT William Clardy made Jul 11 at 2016 11:27 AM

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You mean bigger than the fact that it's most commonly phrased (and perceived) as "black versus white" instead of "black AND white"?

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jul 11 at 2016 12:18 PM

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I once heard of an interesting correlation between science fiction movies and the temper of the people. During the Cold War, when we lived under the shadow of nuclear annihilation, scifi movies were equally grim -- The Day the Earth Stood Still, It Came From Outer Space, The Thing, Body Snatchers, Invaders From Mars, When Worlds Collide, etc. Following the Cold War, we were given ET and other cuddly space creatures. It seems that fear can express itself in many forms. Today, we are living in fear from global economic recession and the threat of a Stone Age culture invading Western Civilization. People are once again afraid and, as usual, turn to the familiar for comfort. People of different races are not familiar. They're not family. They're not the same tribe. Thus, it's easy for the race baiters, those who gain wealth and political power pandering to the racial divide, to play to the fears of both sides. That's my opinion...

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Jul 11 at 2016 12:57 PM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member As long as there is something to be gained politically and financially, there will always be those to do their best to stoke the fires of racial strife. Democrats have always counted on divisiveness (race, economic status, moral issues, etc.) for votes. Now, as many have said "enough is enough", it is starting to backfire on them.

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Jul 11 at 2016 1:18 PM

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The big picture that needs to be presented, because it is true, is that despite what many people "feel" there is far less overt racism is in America today then in any other country in the world. Not that we don't have a way to go, but we would all be better off if the Media was truthful on just this one issue.

Black on Black crime aside, the area that would have the greatest chance of improving black lives in America is the economy. The protesters should be chanting "Black Jobs Matter" and asking what happened to the good paying jobs in their community. The governments limited resources should be focused on jobs programs, not increased federal oversight of local police departments.

FYI: You will never positively change the hearts and minds of people by rioting and chanting taunts at the very people whose opinions you want to change.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Jul 11 at 2016 3:20 PM

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It is a big problem but it is catered to by politicians trying to get ahead...fueling the fires whenever and wherever they can. Its not about taking care of AMERICANS any longer...it is about taking care of Black Americans or Asian Americans or Native Americans...fill in the blank.

Until we lose the labels and understand the we are all Americans and it doesn't matter where you came from you are an American. Before everyone jumps on me for that, let me clarify. I believe it is important to understand your history and learn from it but as Rafiki said in the Lion King to Simba, what does it matter...it is in the past. It hurts but you can either run from it or learn from it. Until we unite as Americans, we will never get past it.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Jul 11 at 2016 3:21 PM

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First, let me say there are some interesting responses here so far.
Second, as posted on other threads dealing with racial problems here in the US, those problems can never be resolved with one or two easy answers. The problems are many in our society. The problems have deep roots going back throughout our history. Overall, I think we are improving, but sadly much of that improvement is limited to far too few of our country.
We have to address all of our social ills, not just one or two. Education, jobs, health care, a livable wage, drug abuse, prison reform. No one lives (or dies) on one social issue. Lives are not that simple.
So, yes, there is a much bigger picture that just a black & white stigma.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 4:51 PM

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yes i do, this is not black vs white, this is the hate mongers, padding thier pockets, giving themselves a reason to exist, blm aint no different than the kkk, just read the news not the news from poltically affliliated but indepentend, get the real answers, whats going on is a calculated division of this country, many persons of color have come out and stated fb, yt, what ever that, what is going on is wrong, blm calling for whites and cops to be killed, yet all statistics state that the largest death rate for blacks is blacks, stop crime, do the time, in my own state ny so many crimes have been committed by catch and release, and guess what black on black

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 10:43 PM

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I think there are pockets of racism and there is a bit of systemic discrimination based on social economic factors and racism perpetuated by the media. It's only plaguing us because it's everywhere in the media and totally in our face. The question is, if there was no coverage would we as a society as this question? On a total side note, the only true systematic racism that exists today in the US, is against the native Americans. At least black people were slave but gained freedoms...The native Americans were simply killed or put into concentration camps...I mean reservations

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Jul 12 at 2016 9:33 AM

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The bigger picture is a diversionary tactic to keep us distracted and fighting amongst ourselves while the people in power keep spending our tax dollars.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 12 at 2016 10:08 AM

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There are two forces moving that cause this. 1. Whites who do display racism. and 2. others who see racism everywhere whether or not it exists there.

I said in another post, if I draw a black circle on a white piece of paper there will be someone who see that as racist.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2019 9:03 PM

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income inequality is at the root of it all