Do you feel that businesses and corporations and homeowners who hire illegal aliens or undocumented workers should be punished harshly?

PO1 J Lewis — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:31:05 -0400

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2017 7:34 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:34:08 -0400

Yes. Must cut off all welfare too, so that open jobs are filled.

Response by PO1 J Lewis made Aug 13 at 2017 7:36 PM

PO1 J Lewis — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:36:20 -0400

Let's face it, they're coming here because they can get jobs from Americans. So if a company is found to have an illegal alien on the payroll, it should be a 10% fine figured on their gross profit. Hire 5 illegals, you pay a fine of 50% of the previous years growth profit, and the company is put into receivership until the fine is paid. For a homeowner, if you hire a couple of day laborers, the fine is 10% of your homes assessed value for each worker. Sounds harsh, but it's not tough to verify employment documents. And homeowners should know better. More than a few have been sued when illegal workers got hurt on their property

Response by Maj John Bell made Aug 13 at 2017 7:50 PM

Maj John Bell — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:50:58 -0400

Yes
-Fine's based on the number of individual's hired, somewhere in the $10k-$25k per illegal hire. If another illegal hire is made after first conviction the fine rate should double with every conviction.
-Prison sentences should be one year per illegal employee, served consecutively, and should also double at every subsequent conviction.

Response by MAJ Glenn Lasater made Aug 13 at 2017 7:59 PM

MAJ Glenn Lasater — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:59:05 -0400

Absolutely. It's the law. The following is an overview of federal law on hiring and harboring illegal aliens. It is not a substitute for professional legal counsel in specific situations.

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal FELONY when he:

• assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him to obtain employment,

• encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

• knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.

Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a MISDEMEANOR. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

As in most discussions about illegal immigration -- we simply need to enforce the existing law. If you don't like the laws you're free to work to try to change them. Until them, enforce the law!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 13 at 2017 8:33 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:33:59 -0400

Provided they did so knowingly, yep, sure do.

Response by Debbie Pomeroy Cloud made Aug 14 at 2017 8:22 AM

Debbie Pomeroy Cloud — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:22:08 -0400

The reason why Charlottesville happened is because we have brushed full of law under the carpet in too many issues. A crime is a crime. Those upholding an oath of office that is part of a crime to needs to feel the wait of the rule of law. It's not one fall guy. We need security and protections, yet we need to keep honor, respect, integrity and the ability to do our jobs in the right way for the right reason. So when we turn our heads for entry into our country, or for anyone to employ illegals, hurts us as a country. We require ss#, driver licenses... thus legal papers. The whole daisy chain in any event needs to be accountable. My opinion. Thank you!

Response by MSgt Danny Hope made Aug 14 at 2017 9:06 AM

MSgt Danny Hope — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:06:42 -0400

Yes. But first you have to make the e-verify system available again.