Do you enjoy a good conspiracy therory?

SFC Matthew Parker — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:40:28 -0500

I must admit I love a good conspiracy post. About how we have the present administration trying to end gun ownership, take our guns and void the 2nd amendment. We do have a honest and often contentious debate on gun rights and ownership in this country but it has gotten a bit silly. Militias hoarding guns, police seizing guns, registration is the first step in ending ownership.

The IRS, FBI and NSA are working together to gather information on us so they can control us. DNA samples taken from newborns will be used to track us and used to determine our mental health or intelligence. Intelligence gathering was done by the NSA for "anti terrorism" purposes but to control the population?

The government is hiding proof of men from outer space. Ok, I believe that. I saw Independence day, that's all I need to know.

What are your favorite conspiracy theories that affect veterans and Americans. Right wing, left wing or just plain nuttery? Do they affect the political discussion and debate on these issues?

Response by SPC Phillip Ludlow made Dec 17 at 2014 4:45 PM

SPC Phillip Ludlow — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:45:36 -0500

oh yes! my favorite? Roswell!

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2014 4:56 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 16:56:09 -0500

Hey SFC Matthew Parker which part of your post is just a "conspiracy theory"? And it's not DNA taken from the newborns, its the RFID chip they put in them that is the worry!

(just kidding) :P

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2014 5:24 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:24:22 -0500

I see this over and over again. Why is the scoop for my jug of protein always on the bottom. They have to do it on purpose. WHY? Why must they make me suffer? I just got a new jug last week and I had to go to a HUMMV and get the pioneer kit to find it.

When will this madness end?!?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2014 5:28 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 17:28:30 -0500

You know you are violating so many caveats in proper debates and comes off being smug.

He was in Logic a great critic,
Profoundly skill'd in Analytic;
He could distinguish, and divide
A hair 'twixt south and south-west side.
Samuel Butler, Hudibras.

Misuse of logic is rampant in all fields, even academic ones. It is often used as a crutch to justify prejudices and as a club to smite those who hold opposing views. There are people who are thoroughly Aristotelian in their thinking, and do, indeed, believe in the profundity of empty logical arguments. Others, such as politicians and evangelists use logic cynically as an instrument for persuasion of those who don't realize that "There's a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons, and reasons that sound good." (Burton Hillis).

The second sentence is most telling here. Whether you believe what the young SGT says, minimalizing what he says or who he listens to is a crafty dodge meant to make yourself look good between your colleagues...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 17 at 2014 6:18 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:18:48 -0500

THE MOON IS REALLY THE DEATH STAR!!!

Response by SGT Charles Vernier made Dec 17 at 2014 6:32 PM

SGT Charles Vernier — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:32:45 -0500

I think you forgot the chemtrails being sprayed from jetliners to dumb down the population. The Illuminati, FEMA camps, & GMOs ... Just in case you were wondering I have been genetically modified to read your thought waves, and the tinfoil you wear only serves to amplify the signal! Mwahahaha!

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Dec 17 at 2014 6:47 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 18:47:39 -0500

Most conspiracy THEORIES' glaring hole is that they assume that the people involved are not only evil, but also highly competent very disciplined. All three are rare to find in combination.

Conspiracies (distinct form theories) are real, verifiable occurrences in history (e.g. The sons of Liberty, the plot to assassinate Lincoln, the US raid that killed bin Laden). Conspiring to secretly execute a significant plan requires 1. Dedicated, capable operatives who believe in the cause 2. Money 3. Discipline (possible through compartmentalization, idealism, fear or some combo) These three elements are essential in any successful conspiracy, and less of one can be compensated for to some degree by the other two. However, the shelf life on any conspiracy is limited. Discipline ALWAYS fails eventually. Therefore, the leader of a conspiracy must execute the action, and shape events such that the revelation of the conspiracy will no longer jeopardize the aims of the operation. Conspiracy theories that are in the modern era (of such strong media and dissemination) and older than a decade are almost certainly false.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2014 2:10 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 02:10:37 -0500

OnStar was developed by the government to keep tabs on us. I was warned by my mechanic to never get a car with onstar because the government could watch me. I told him I never did anything illegal so I didn't care if the government was watching. The look on his face was astounding. It was as if he couldn't fathom the life of a law abiding citizen free of the constant paranoia of being caught.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 18 at 2014 5:21 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:21:06 -0500

My all time favorite: The U.S. Governement faked landing on the moon and has kept up the charade.

The hypocrasy is just priceless!

Me: "So let me get this straight.

You believe that the U.S. government was incapable of managing to send a spacecraft to the moon, land on the moon, take off, and return in a period where two world powers were reaching out into the cosmos and racing for that goal; but you DO believe that this same U.S. government WAS able to pull off the most elaborate and convincing hoax of all time.

A hoax so successful, that it kept the USSR from bothering to actually land on the moon AND they were competent enough to maintain this facade before billions of people EXCEPT for you and a select few who can see past the ruse.

That about sum it up?"

Response by SGT Richard H. made Dec 19 at 2014 7:46 AM

SGT Richard H. — Fri, 19 Dec 2014 07:46:59 -0500

I think my all time favorite Conspiracy Theory is the one about President Bush sending in Special Forces to blow the dikes and flood New Orleans after hurricane Katrina because he hates black people. That one was a doozy.

Response by CW4 Ray Montano made Dec 19 at 2014 1:15 PM

CW4 Ray Montano — Fri, 19 Dec 2014 13:15:33 -0500

To be honest with you, I don't find conspiracy theories very amusing. It's not so much the theory, but the realization that there are people that actually believe them. The government blowing up the twin towers, President Obama's secret alliance with the military to turn this country into a Muslim nation, Elvis actually working as a greater at Wall-Mart, etc. Yesterday, someone tried to convince me that Muslims believe that Jews were created from "Apes and Pigs." I just find it sad that people I once respected have turned out, in their retirement years, to be partially insane.

Response by SPC Kendall Metcalf made Dec 31 at 2014 11:29 AM

SPC Kendall Metcalf — Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:29:21 -0500

Hell it's just fun listing to them get all worked up about what ever conspiracy, drink a beer and just give them that "Your nuttier than squirrel turds!" Look. Then act like your talking it to you sleeve or wrist watch. That's when the fun really begins.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Mar 31 at 2015 4:42 PM

SGT Jeremiah B. — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:42:23 -0400

I'm amused sometimes, but I'm always saddened by veterans (and service members!) who forward theories of an impending declaration of martial law,etc. It shows an atrociously low view of the people you served with.

Response by TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA made Nov 3 at 2015 1:54 PM

TSgt John Temblador, PI, CIPA — Tue, 03 Nov 2015 13:54:33 -0500

See Time index 3:30 on and DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano play "dumb"... on Muslim Brotherhood in her agency and no accountability, but she had "means and opporttunity and acted" with giving the Muslim Brotherhood security clearances.. "They are already in place"... NOW DO YOU BELIEVE? Link: https://youtu.be/354GJU3X54Y