Do you consider Augmented Reality Games/MMO's (like Pokémon GO, Ingress, World Of Warcraft and ARMA3) to be fraternization?

SSG Randall P. — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:06:37 -0400

As long as we all understand what Fraternization is, soldiers can be found running around the installation running around catching Pokémon, playing Call of Duty with their squad leader online, or Invading a small village in ARMA 3 with their entire platoon. Would this be considered fraternization? Cause I mean, what if me and Sarge are guildies! SUP 1SG TROGDOR!

I suppose I have worded my question silly, I suppose this is part a PSA too... Heads up... People are going to be hanging out that normally don't. Saw COL and PVT joking about pokemon at the PX today.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 10:50 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 10:50:22 -0400

As a general rule, i think the answer to that question would be no... if it's acceptable for them to go to the same church, participate in the same clubs, I don't see how this would be any different. Now if they are going to each others quarters to game together, then IMO that is likely over the line.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 11:26 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 11:26:54 -0400

The whole idea behind Fraternization is that its prejudicial to good order and discipline. Is playing Call of Duty on the same team going to keep that Squad Leader from sending his Lance Corporal to take out a machine gun nest because they played in the same game lobby? I really don't think so. I honestly wouldn't care if Marines are sharing gamertags and playing games online, as long as they're not hanging out one-on-one at each other's house and broing out. As SSG Colwell pointed out, servicemembers can be part of the same church, clubs, etc. and most online games take place within a larger community. I don't see it as much of an issue as long as it doesn't become a "good ole boy" type of activity which creates a perception of favoritism and discontent in the unit.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Jul 11 at 2016 12:35 PM

Capt Tom Brown — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 12:35:11 -0400

Times have certainly changed. That's one problem we never faced in the days before computers.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 1:22 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 13:22:47 -0400

I used to play baseball at Bragg. on my team their was a CPT, a Warrant, a 1SG, Privates and SPC but mostly mid grade NCOs. The CPT was always "Sir", the 1SG was always "Top". However, the Warrant, our pitcher, however was "Fireball" because of his scary ass fast ball. When he PCS'd we were doomed.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Jul 11 at 2016 1:32 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 13:32:31 -0400

Playing competitive sports can be a valuable "team building" exercise. (And for those who don't consider computer games as competitive sports, you need to see the money being paid to top competitors).

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 11 at 2016 2:21 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:21:17 -0400

And the rhabdo cases keep rising... Hmmm

Response by SSG Jim Beverly made Jul 12 at 2016 9:25 PM

SSG Jim Beverly — Tue, 12 Jul 2016 21:25:17 -0400

I agree with the other posters. I invited a 1SG from another company to a raid in World of Warcraft because we had exchanged battle tags during a prior meeting with several members of the unit that played. The raid group had a large number of various ranks, officers and enlisted, from our unit and took that sucker down before any other group on our server. The most that did for our professional interaction was a reminiscing here and there at the smoke shack, but he was still "First Sergeant" and I was still "Sergeant Beverly." To echo what the others have said, if the troops in question have the maturity and integrity necessary to keep the gaming in the game and professionalism at work, I don't believe any form of online gaming is inherently fraternization.

Response by CA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2016 2:46 PM

CA Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 14:46:37 -0400

I do not believe this to be fraternization

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