Do we need a new fence, better security outside of the fence, or a buffer around the fence?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:39:23 -0400

Yet another jumper over the White House fence.

How can we prevent this?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/22/man-apprehended-after-scaling-white-house-fence-in-latest-security-breach/?intcmp=latestnews

Response by PO3 Shaun Taylor made Oct 22 at 2014 9:44 PM

PO3 Shaun Taylor — Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:44:40 -0400

Yes, it can be prevented. I'm not going to get into the politics of it but I truly believe that the security support is not there.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 12:07 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:07:07 -0400

They need to come up with a better option because it ain't working now. Fix it already.

Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Oct 23 at 2014 12:11 AM

LCpl Steve Wininger — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:11:21 -0400

To quote Roger Waters, "Tear down the F***ing Wall."

I don't see a problem here.

Response by Cpl Christopher Allen-Shinn made Oct 23 at 2014 12:13 AM

Cpl Christopher Allen-Shinn — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:13:18 -0400

I find it interesting that the Secret Service is getting such a black eye in the media over this. They're doing their best within the constraints of their mission, the public nature of the White House, and their present ROE. Why don't we talk about the cranks who have done this to gain attention? Maybe some public education about why it's such a bad idea might help...

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Oct 23 at 2014 12:39 AM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 00:39:22 -0400

Put some good ol' Military Police Soldiers in charge. I will even volunteer to go if I can leave Fort Bliss, TX.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 1:29 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:29:44 -0400

Electric fence. Case closed.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 5:59 AM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:59:45 -0400

No, we just need snipers posted on top of the White House that can back up the signs on the fence that say "trespassers will be shot on sight" pun intended,

Response by SFC Stephen Hester made Oct 23 at 2014 8:07 AM

SFC Stephen Hester — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:07:58 -0400

Beef up security. Add Marines and Soldiers to the mix. Adding buffer zones or higher fences or concertina wire or anything else that would make the White House look like an armed camp would send the wrong message.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Oct 23 at 2014 8:43 AM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:43:23 -0400

Seems to be the New "In-Thing" to do. I wouldn't. When I was stationed in DC the guys I knew in the Secret Service were some big bruisers with some bad attitudes.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 9:28 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:28:14 -0400

I'm of the opinion we need to stop this farce and move POTUS to a more secure facility OUTSIDE Washington, D.C.. That way we can let the White House be used as a tourist trap.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 10:23 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:23:34 -0400

10 ft deep moat on the other side. With alligators. Problem solved!

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Oct 23 at 2014 12:16 PM

Maj Chris Nelson — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:16:43 -0400

There are already security measures in place. As long as those security measures are followed, there should be no problems. A jumper over the fence, if stopped outside the building, is appropriate. The failure comes if the jumper gains access to the White House (as it was recently). Travel the world, take a look at other countries... They use similar level (some more, some less) as what we have. In my opinion, the government is of the people, for the people and there should be a degree of access to government by the people. Taking pictures thru the fence, walking close, to the fence, etc need to be allowed. Keep security in place but as low key as required to maintain safety and security.

Response by SSG John Bacon made Oct 23 at 2014 12:29 PM

SSG John Bacon — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 12:29:13 -0400

That's all we need is to do throw money at a problem? No, how about actually addressing these people's complaints. I am sure that they tried other means of contacting their "leaders" before taking the drastic measure of jumping that fence. My guess is that they were ignored. Funny how the president is never in the White House when these things happen too. Oh that's right he's always on vacation.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 1:06 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:06:05 -0400

change the rules of engagement for the security. IF we were to keep the president and his family somewhere more secure, I wouldnt want the public (to include myself) to know about it. make it OPSEC.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2014 1:39 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 13:39:22 -0400

A big voice asking the question: a bullet to the head or releasing of the dogs. Let the person choose and act accordingly.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Oct 23 at 2014 9:11 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 21:11:25 -0400

Just electrify the MF, set it to extra crispy and forget to put up warning signs. Oops!

Response by Cpl Joshua Wehrman made Oct 23 at 2014 11:54 PM

Cpl Joshua Wehrman — Thu, 23 Oct 2014 23:54:41 -0400

Simple I think if they are worried about they should just start by adding a nice electric jolt to that bad boy and a 24hr less than lethal sniper would prove a point I think lol

Response by SPC Chelsea Fernandez made Oct 25 at 2014 6:17 PM

SPC Chelsea Fernandez — Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:17:12 -0400

I think that they should invest in an electric fence.