Do we have room for US Public Health Service officers on RP?

2018-03-31T19:26:05-04:00

They are detailed to the Coast Guard, they deploy to combat zones, they serve on Navy ships (Comfort, Mercy), they work on Army post, Army Hospitals, and lead offices in the Defense Health Agency. Can they not get some love? No, as a service they are not part of DOD like the Coast Guard who sometimes is under DoD control. But, I'm sure there is a way RP can verify their contribution to DoD.

If I may add, they receive DOD awards, they are covered under Tricare, VA, and the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act, they worked along side the 101st in response to Ebola outbreak in West Africa, they served along side DOD for Hurricane Katrina, as well as all other hurricanes, and national emergencies.

Response by A1C Ian Williams made Mar 31 at 2018 7:27 PM

2018-03-31T19:27:32-04:00

Yes, sir COL Private RallyPoint Member they are a part of the Uniformed Services and serve their country faithfully.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2018 7:29 PM

2018-03-31T19:29:29-04:00

Oh, and they work at the VA too.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Mar 31 at 2018 10:06 PM

2018-03-31T22:06:26-04:00

we already allow members with the most tangential link to military service. Why not.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 31 at 2018 11:49 PM

2018-03-31T23:49:41-04:00

Imcam most definitely assure I know a very great deal about them, I'd been clinical, then got ill while in residency. I'd wanted to go USPHS for research or hlth SVC ofcr (HSO), they're also!allowed warrants which you might not have seen, though they've never used them. If I could've gotten it all right to start, I'd have gone with them, I honestly didn't know they existed, I'd be thrilled tomxhat further with you about that topic ifmtoud care to hear more. Also, I'd asked at one point, as I'd seen your listing of background Jere, I'm most eager to get into the Army Volunteer Corps to help with STEM training and/or advising for enlisted personnelz I'd be most grateful for any help in that regard, I'm total perm disabled, it'd need to ne under the allowed disability rules, however I could certainly explain !ore of you'd care to hear !ore. Also, I was elec engrg (EE), physics and math with verynheavy CS and scientific programming, I'd love to ne of use as a volunteer imAVC if you might ne able to possibly suggest a way, I just sit at home, driving my wife nuts, I'd love to ne able to be of use if you might ne able to help at all, I'd be most eager to chat further many thanks....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 31 at 2018 11:54 PM

2018-03-31T23:54:45-04:00

And look at USPHS FOSTEP, the USPHS analogue to ROTC, there are Jr and Sr levels, I think you'd find them of very real interest, I'm well aware of At!y using USPHS for psych related clinical uses, I'd love to ne of possolbe use in clinical admin as an AVC volumtwerz as well, if!you might possibly help, I've tried to volunteer at a Reserve Ctr near my wife and myself, many thanks, I'm also looking at Citizen Soldier for Life (CSFL), a new program I heard about. I've looked at USCG Aux, Civil Air Patrol (CAP), Navy Sea Cadets, Navy League STEM Institute, Soc of !are Mil Engrs (SAME) and their STEM programs, JROTC volumteering, Young Marines, Boy Scout merit badges coumselingg, Explorers, just to na!e some areas...any help would ne very sorely appreciated, many thanks....

Response by Marcus Kesler made Apr 1 at 2018 12:07 AM

2018-04-01T00:07:19-04:00

As a USPHS officer, I would be very interested in this as well. I have no other prior service, so I registered as civilian rather than claim Navy or Coast Goard.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2018 12:45 AM

2018-04-01T00:45:29-04:00

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member correct, as stated. Members of the uniformed service. But when they are in the same combat zone as we are, when they respond to the same humanitarian missions as we do, when they sit in DOD leadership positions, and endure the same service from the VA as we do I would think that they might have some inside to the conversation on RP.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Apr 1 at 2018 1:12 AM

2018-04-01T01:12:29-04:00

They are uniformed members serving our country. If you, Colonel, come upon an officer of higher rank in the USHS or NOAA, you are required to render them a salute, and risk an ass chewing if you don't give it. (Collective you, not YOU you.) They serve. They get the respect.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:44 AM

2018-04-01T01:44:52-04:00

https://www.usphs.gov/student/

Thought you might find this of interest....

Student Opportunities at USPHS Commissioned Corps

USPHS Commissioned Corps: internships, financial assistance, loan repayments, externships, other student opportunies.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:46 AM

2018-04-01T01:46:18-04:00

https://www.usphs.gov/student/jrcostep.aspx

And this....

JRCOSTEP at USPHS Commissioned Corps

PHS internships and externships: JRCOSTEP. USPHS Commissioned Corps.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:47 AM

2018-04-01T01:47:38-04:00

https://www.usphs.gov/student/srcostep.aspx

This too....

SRCOSTEP at USPHS Commissioned Corps

Financial assistance from USPHS Commissioned Corps: SRCOSTEP.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:49 AM

2018-04-01T01:49:12-04:00

https://www.usphs.gov/profession/engineer/

This is where I should have gone initially, if I'd have known what I was doing, I didn't, I'm afraid, I just thought you might wind this an interesting perspective....

Engineering Jobs at USPHS Commissioned Corps

USPHS offers diverse jobs in engineering: mechanical engineering, civil engineering, electrical engineering, and more.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:51 AM

2018-04-01T01:51:06-04:00

https://mrc.hhs.gov/

They also run this, I've wanted to volunteernwith them, I just dont know if the disability rules I'm under would allow it....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:53 AM

2018-04-01T01:53:00-04:00

http://www.same.org

I'd wondered purely out of curiosity, whether this group had any components devoted to cyber, just something I figured might also ne of interest, albeit unrelatedmto USPHS, of course....

www.same.org

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 1:59 AM

2018-04-01T01:59:54-04:00

https://www.usphs.gov/aboutus/dod-hhs/job-opportunities.aspx

Getting back to USPHS, I stumbled across that awhile back, as well, I figured you might find it of interest, I didn't know ofmyoud known about it, I figured you might, I'd sent it in before, I just figured it see!ed relevant here....

DoD-HHS Job Opportunities (3 YEAR OBLIGATION)

Current Army Job Opportunities

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 2:01 AM

2018-04-01T02:01:25-04:00

http://www.coausphs.org/

I found thisminteresting reading also....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 2:02 AM

2018-04-01T02:02:27-04:00

http://coausphs.org/events/usphs-symposium/

And this.....

usphs-symposium

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Apr 1 at 2018 2:05 AM

2018-04-01T02:05:28-04:00

http://wow.uscgaux.info/content.php?unit=070-08&category=auxiliary-health-services

Given that you'd !mentioned about USPHS handling USCG, I figured this might be of interest...I'd wanted to do this also, and would try, of the disability rules allowed it....I wasn't !medicine, I was doctoral level allied health, we shut !y license off yrs ago, due to the whole disability thing, I was just really attracted to going this route, if I could just find a way, you know? I gather they help active duty USPHS also assigned to USCG....

U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary - Division 8, District 7

Public and Members Website for the U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary's Division 8, District 7

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Apr 1 at 2018 2:55 AM

2018-04-01T02:55:15-04:00

They are a commissioned service as is NOAA and both have places here if they wish...

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2018 11:05 AM

2018-06-06T11:05:37-04:00

Response by CAPT Kevin M. McGuinness made Nov 13 at 2023 1:36 AM

2023-11-13T01:36:13-05:00

For those interested:

38 U.S.C. 101. Definitions
(B)
(21) The term “active duty” means—
(A) full-time duty in the Armed Forces, other than active duty for training;
(B) full-time duty (other than for training purposes) as a commissioned officer of the Regular or Reserve Corps of the Public Health Service (i) on or after July 29, 1945, or (ii) before that date under circumstances affording entitlement to “full military benefits” or (iii) at any time, for the purposes of chapter 13 of this title;

42 USC 213. Military benefits
(d) Active service deemed active military service with respect to laws administered by Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Active service of commissioned officers of the Service shall be deemed to be active military service in the Armed Forces of the United States for the purposes of all laws administered by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs (except the Servicemen's Indemnity Act of 1951) and section 417 of this title.
(e) Active service deemed active military service with respect to Servicemembers Civil Relief Act
Active service of commissioned officers of the Service shall be deemed to be active military service in the Armed Forces of the United States for the purposes of all rights, privileges, immunities, and benefits now or hereafter provided under the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act (50 App. U.S.C. 501 et seq.) [now 50 U.S.C. 3901 et seq.].
(f) Active service deemed active military service with respect to anti-discrimination laws
Active service of commissioned officers of the Service shall be deemed to be active military service in the Armed Forces of the United States for purposes of all laws related to discrimination on the basis of race, color, sex, ethnicity, age, religion, and disability.