Do the “Orders of a Sentry” and the Constitutions Guarantee to protect against invasion/ Domestic Violence work together at the Border?

2021-07-10T17:25:56-04:00

I am surprised how this is not getting more heat.

We all swore an oath to defend the constitution which states

Section 4

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

We would all be a good sentry as seen here

“ In the Navy and Marine Corps, there are eleven General Orders of a Sentry, also known as General Orders of the Watch. The Army and Air Force have condensed these eleven orders into three.”

But the border of our own nation?

Someone brought up the following 1951 UN Convention. I interpret the below statement to basically be subservient to the constitution in its implementation, and in no way should lessen your orders to follow the constitution, similar to the orders of sentry

I do not believe this negates the statement made in Constitution. And we swore an oath to defend the constitution.

——Here is his statement from my other post
Let's not forget that we are signatories on Article 31 of the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees: Non-penalization, Detention and Protection.

So no, we can't just put up a wall and say "no one can come in". We agreed to abide by a set of procedures when individuals come to our borders seeking asylum.

"The [Immigration and Naturalization] Service shall not issue a Notice of Intent to Fine for acts of fraud [the crime of illegal entry] committed by an alien pursuant to direct departure from a country in which the alien has a well-founded fear of persecution or from which there is a significant danger that the alien would be returned to a country in which the alien would have a well-founded fear of persecution, provided that the alien has presented himself or herself without delay to an INS officer and shown good cause for his or her illegal entry or presence.."

Response by 1LT William Clardy made Jul 10 at 2021 5:32 PM

2021-07-10T17:32:37-04:00

The Guarantee Clause of the U.S. Constitution (1972)

Wiecek offers a comprehensive analysis of the origins and development of the clause in Article IV, Section 4 that guarantees a republican form of government to every state of the union. Chapters are devoted to rebellions against state or national authority, slavery and two pivotal cases: Luther v. Borden (1849) and Baker v. Carr (1962).

Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Jul 10 at 2021 5:50 PM

2021-07-10T17:50:04-04:00

'Brown' people aren't a standing army or an invading force. Jesus fucking christ what is wrong with you people.

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Jul 10 at 2021 6:27 PM

2021-07-10T18:27:05-04:00

We swore oaths to defend the Constitution yes. But we don't get to just pick and choose the parts we like. PO3 Hassay isn't the interpreter of it's meaning. That falls to the judiciary. If you want to understand what you role is and the meaning, you have to examine the body of case law around it. Anything else isn't defending the Constitution at all.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 10 at 2021 6:36 PM

2021-07-10T18:36:04-04:00

Do you consider immigrants as invaders or enemies of the United States? I think you need to rethink how you view immigration.

Response by 1stSgt Rex Lawrence made Jul 10 at 2021 8:26 PM

2021-07-10T20:26:52-04:00

Does anyone really think this Joints Chief of Staff would defend the Constitution to its end as it is written or will they defend any Admininistration in Office

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jul 11 at 2021 9:06 AM

2021-07-11T09:06:32-04:00

Just stop. This is getting so old.

This isn't about crime, citizens that look just like you commit crimes at FAR higher levels than immigrants, even adjusted for population density, but I don't hear you raising cane about that.

This isn't about drugs, citizens that are on the pale side are cranking out meth labs and distributing narcotics across the country at a rate that FAR exceeds imports, yet not once have you ranted about that.

Just say you don't like "brown" people and don't want them in the US and stop dancing around the bush already. I have to imagine we're all getting pretty sick and tired of your rhetoric.

This country was formed BY immigrants, FOR immigrants.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Jul 11 at 2021 9:50 AM

2021-07-11T09:50:37-04:00

If your main worry is about fentanyl, you’re looking the wrong way. The origin of fentanyl and the precursors to make it come from the west - China and India to be exact.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10890.pdf

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