Do SF engagement teams (WACs) wear SF Patch?

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Tue, 30 May 2023 10:51:51 -0400

I saw a news story on TV about Memorial Day, In it was an apparent female, a lot of he/shes running around, Her vest had an SF patch and a CIB. The only way I could figure, if she is female, would be an engagement team. I know SF can be awarded CIB.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2023 11:27 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 May 2023 11:27:24 -0400

Females have completed Special Forces training https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2020/07/09/a-woman-became-a-green-beret-today-a-huge-milestone-for-the-army-and-the-military-but-she-isnt-the-first-female-to-earn-the-title/. To receive the CIB you must hold an Infantry or Special Forces MOS. There are females that hold those MOS so it is possible that females have earned the CIB. From my understanding all soldiers assigned to a Special Forces unit wear the Special Forces patch just like those who have completed the Q-course. The differences being the long tab the graduates wear in addition to the green beret.

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Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made May 30 at 2023 11:39 AM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Tue, 30 May 2023 11:39:45 -0400

A tab or the shoulder patch of the Unit? As far as I know, only one female has made it through the Q-Course and that would be what it takes to be MOS qualified. Now there have been a number of women make it through Ranger School, which would get you an 11B MOS if you were going to an Infantry unit. There are also a number of women that have made it through Infantry OSUT. However, the CIB requires that you be MOS qualified in either 18 or 11 series, be serving in a position in one of those units brigade size or smaller. As far as I can find, no woman has been awarded a CIB. There a lot that have Combat Action Badges.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made May 31 at 2023 7:36 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Wed, 31 May 2023 07:36:05 -0400

Entirely possible. There are more than one, Ranger, SF, hell I’ll bet even Delta-they just ain’t saying. If you are ever wondering, truly, you walk up shake their hands and say wow can you share your story so I can relay it to my female Soldiers. If someone is a fake their story won’t add up, training, combat role etc. if the are dumb enough to lie, they are too dumb to read regulation and policy.

But don’t go wrong into the conversation, you might get chewed up.