Do Army schools keep records of previous classes (1059s, Badge Orders, Certificates)?

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 11:53:36 -0400

When I was a 1LT and PCS'ing, my "I love me" book was lost in the shuffle of moving. I've been able to recover most of my prior course records - but there's a few that I haven't been able to locate and I'm curious if the school houses actually keep older records of previous students?

Cliff notes: Service members (applies to all branches) - ensure your OMPF/personnel files are updated asap.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2016 12:01 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 12:01:13 -0400

Yes for a couple of years IAW ARIMS but if your looking for records so old that they were kept IAW MARKS, you might be SOL.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made May 23 at 2016 12:06 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Mon, 23 May 2016 12:06:44 -0400

Yes & No.

Government Record-keeping Rules (used to) state that we had to maintain records for 2 years (minimum), then "Archive" per Unit SOP.

Class rosters are one of those things that are usually maintained though. However, your orders (dates) are in your ORB which means you can send that over to the School House clerk and they "may" hook you up with a replacement certificate.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made May 23 at 2016 12:10 PM

CSM Richard StCyr — Mon, 23 May 2016 12:10:39 -0400

Don't know for sure about any other courses but at 1st Engineer BDE we had records/ rosters of all classes of the Sapper course that showed who was Tabbed, completed the course but didn't earn the tab, and everyone who attended the course with course numbers and dates. This was very helpful in proving a couple cases of folks wearing unauthorized Sapper Tabs and clearing others accused of wearing unauthorized Tabs who in fact were Tabbed.
Try contacting the courses proponent office.

Response by SGT David T. made May 23 at 2016 12:50 PM

SGT David T. — Mon, 23 May 2016 12:50:49 -0400

I lost my original Air Assault Badge orders. I went down to the school and they were able to provide me a copy four years later. I would imagine that most schools can. Your best bet is to contact the schools directly and see what they can do.

Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made May 23 at 2016 2:10 PM

LTC Charles T Dalbec — Mon, 23 May 2016 14:10:43 -0400

ATRRS keeps the data. See your ATRRS operator

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2016 3:06 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 15:06:14 -0400

They are required to keep records for 5 years

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2016 4:19 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 16:19:04 -0400

Check your JST and ATRSS Records.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2016 4:19 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 16:19:51 -0400

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member Many schools keep these records Sir. I have had to call schools in the past to verify if Soldiers have graduated or to receive copies of Airborne and Ranger certificates. Additionally, your OMPF should have most of your records, if it is up to date. One trick I have done over the last decade is to have a hard copy I love me book, and then a digital I love me book on my computer. This is a backup and speeds up everything when my unit or S1 needs something for whatever purpose. I scan in schools, orders, annual training, receipts during tdy/pcs, etc. The more info saved, the better.

Response by CW3(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2016 4:23 PM

CW3(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 May 2016 16:23:10 -0400

i just checked for my WOBC class i took in 2010. They told me they destroy them after 2 years

Response by SPC Steven Schoenhut made May 24 at 2016 1:39 AM

SPC Steven Schoenhut — Tue, 24 May 2016 01:39:54 -0400

The other place to check is in AKO there is this site called a VMET (verification of military experience and training) It is supposed to be updated after you finish anything from a duty assignment to school or a correspondence course

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2016 2:21 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 May 2016 02:21:28 -0400

Should have everything saved on OMPF

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2016 8:18 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 May 2016 20:18:33 -0400

They should
They are getting better but
Better maintain dup copies

Response by SSG Daniel Miller made Jun 18 at 2016 12:44 PM

SSG Daniel Miller — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 12:44:16 -0400

As the former training NCOIC for the FACCC, I can tell you that hard copy records are kept by (at least in my case) the school for no more than one year. I instituted a policy of keeping all digital copies up until I left. If you need your 1059, contact your instructor or branch, and they will be able to provide a copy 98% of the time.