Did you catch the President's speech this morning? Do you agree with him in letting 10,000 more SYRIAN refugee's into the US?

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http://video.foxnews.com/v/ [login to see] 001/obama-not-reconsidering-acceptance-of-syrian-refugees--/?playlist_id=trending#sp=watch-live
Obama said this morning that he is still going to let in 10,000 SYRIANS into the US.
Now that the FRENCH has proven that at least one of the attackers snuck into France as a Syrian Refugee, Should we really be letting any of the Syrian refugee's into the US?
Since there is NO REAL way to VET/check on these Refugee's...not way to do a good or real back ground check...is this really what we should be doing?

The president also indicated that ISIS is not a STATE and that they are still small potato's...ok, these are my words, but this is basically what he said.

Where was OBAMA when hundreds of thousands of SYRIANS were being murdered over a two or three year period? and by their own country/government I may add!

Where was Obama when these SYRIANS were dyer need of medical care? In need of shelter, food, clothing? When they were living in camps and make shift shelters for the past nearly FIVE YEARS!!

Where was obama then???and now all of the sudden he wants to show compassion? Empathy? and bring these folks here ....just like that! Yeah, right. What's really going on here??

Oh wait! IT's called ELECTION year is coming up and anything to help out his fellow democrats to get the votes they need.

Seriously? ISIS is grown 10 fold...wait...ISIS has grown ??? so big...I don't see how we are not looking at them as being a "STATE" and that ISIS is a TRUE threat....that what Hilary said on TV on Tuesday, November 10th about ISIS being in Check and nothing to be concerned about...is a bunch of HOGWASH! Cocky Pop and BOLOGNA!

Ok so I'm updating my post and adding this. I've had all day to think about it and after reading everyone's posts, here are my thoughts.
First it was one refugee...then it was two refugee's...and now they have confirmed...they the French Government....that SIX refugee's that passed over their borders and into France came from SYRIA Refugee group are from ISIS....

I am half Japanese...born and raised in Japan. I am very much aware of the Japanese refugee camps both here and in Canada. I don't care what you or other say....all of the refugee's coming over from Syria need to be put into specially made camps...and they need to stay there....for how long? I do not know, but what I do know is there is NO REAL WAY to vet these Refugee's....there is NO way to confirm or deny their back grounds...and I for one do not want these people roaming around the US at free will.

If these refugee's want to come here and expect us to take care of them...then they should agree to a process....before we go and let all of these refugee's in....a process needs to be made up...with steps on how to bring them in...how to process them....where to put them up....how long they will stay there and what's needed to vet them...one by one.
They'll all need to sign and agree to this and follow the rules.. If they don't sign and agree, then they don't come into our country and we don't take care of them
If they are truly refugee's and have no where to go and need help, then they should not mind agreeing to this.
They can't and we can't just hand out help just like that...willy nilly say here you go...welcome...come on over! We'll not only take are of you...but we'll do it without vetting you. HA! Yeah, right.
A plan needs to be put together then implemented and it must have checks and balances....and NO IF'S AND'S and BUT's!

Obama not reconsidering acceptance of Syrian refugees

Kristin Fisher reports from New York

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Nov 16 at 2015 11:38 AM

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I do not agree with President Obama letting 10,000 more SYRIAN refugee's into the USA Sgt Kelli Mays.
I completely disagree with the POTUS on this issue. Letting unvetted Syrians into this nation is a very bad idea.
Inserting sleeper cells with members who have no criminal records is one tactic ISIS, al Qaeda and other wahhabi doctrine terrorist groups have used for decades. Many of those involved in last weeks assaults in Paris had no record yet came from Syrian backgrounds.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Nov 16 at 2015 11:40 AM

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NO! They can not and will not be vetted. If anything happens to our citizens, as did in France,
it will be on Obama and Kerry.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 11:41 AM

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We are at war, it doesn't make sense to allow the enemy to gain more of a foothold in our country.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 11:42 AM

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Just 10k?? I thought is 100K by the end of 2017. .... so he did dial back a little.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Nov 16 at 2015 11:57 AM

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Somebody has to make the call: Should this President be removed from office by reason of mental disability or defect (believing that ISIS is contained), or for high crimes and misdemeanors (sending reinforcements to terrorists immediately following the attack in Paris)? ...and make it soon

Response by Alan K. made Nov 16 at 2015 12:03 PM

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Not to mention the prisoner release @ Camp Delta......Time to relieved of command. SOME SECTOR OF GOV. HAS TO DO SOMETHING!

Response by Cpl Shane Cunningham made Nov 16 at 2015 12:05 PM

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Let's just give them guns and hold them to our heads for them.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 12:06 PM

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I was against letting this one in from Kenya. Look at the havoc and demise he hath wrought!!!

Response by PFC David Ryba made Nov 16 at 2015 12:25 PM

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No way!

Response by LTC John Shaw made Nov 16 at 2015 12:31 PM

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Sgt Kelli Mays NO country should accept the refugees, you will continue to encourage the refugee flow. NATO/Red Crescent can establish refugee camps in safe zones in Syria, Jordan and Turkey. This has been done for many other situations in the past.
How does pulling people away from their homes and disrupting their lives, help? Best to keep people close to home, execute operations to secure areas, DESTROY Daesh and leave.
This grand mass immigration experiment needs to STOP. All nations are allowed to secure borders and maintain their Country's interests.
All nations have legal immigration processes, each country can verify through their standard immigration process.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Nov 16 at 2015 12:42 PM

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It's simple. We almost contact our elected representatives in Washington DC and let them know this is not acceptable. The circular American homeland must come first.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Nov 16 at 2015 12:53 PM

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Obama is in a state of denial about his failure as a leader of the free world. He has been wrong on almost every front and he continues to double down because he is a leftists acolyte. He can do nothing else, it is how he is wired.

We should not let a single Syrian "immigrant" in unless it can be precisely determined who they are, where they have been, what their loyalties are etc. That will be very hard to do, period. A "safe zone" should be set up in the middle east for these folks to go until things calm down in Syria. This is not our problem.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 16 at 2015 1:07 PM

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1. We are partially to blame for their homelessness.
2. Most of them are Sunni.
3. We have no profiles on them.
4. We have no understanding of their ideology.

Response by SGT Francis Wright made Nov 16 at 2015 1:12 PM

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SGT Kelli Mays: we the people are going to be stuck telling him "we told you so". Because he refuses to listen.

Response by LTC Ed Ross made Nov 16 at 2015 1:31 PM

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We are a humane country. We should do what we can to aid refugees in the region. How many refugees will Middle Eastern countries take? As for accepting thousands of Middle East refugees into the United States, I have serious concerns. Immigration, both legal and illegal into the US is out of control. Time to close the door until we get our act together.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Nov 16 at 2015 1:36 PM

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Sgt Kelli Mays My objection has less to do with the terrorist situation, more to do with the domestic situation. I do not think that the United States should be bringing in refugees when we have American Citizens living on the streets. Homeless Americans means no refugees should be brought in. Let's take care of our own before we take care of others.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Nov 16 at 2015 1:50 PM

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No, there is no way to weed out the real refugees. And if Saudi Arabia won't even take them. You would think Obama would have had an epiphany . This is us plan all along to make us a subordinate power. Equal to everyone else. He cannot even say ISIS bout does a bad Snop dog impersonation when he says it.

Response by MSG Gerry Poe made Nov 16 at 2015 2:24 PM

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If we let in those refugees, then what happened in Paris will happen in the US. This will just fuel the fire in the Middle East even more knowing that they did damage to the West. How about we put on our "Big Boy" pants, quit listening to the "Good Idea Fairy on Crack" and make decisions that will not endanger our citizens! If it happens, someone needs to be held accountable for this crazy decisions!

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Nov 16 at 2015 4:14 PM

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Sgt Kelli Mays - I don't believe we should allow any adult male "refugees" into our country unless they have a verifiable family with them (wife and at least one child under 12). No single males, especially of "military age" (which, to me, means anybody over 12 years old, with no upper limit).

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 4:22 PM

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Wow, I'm just shocked at all of the extreme right-wing paranoia in the comments here. Coup? You folks realize that's called treason, right?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 4:37 PM

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I think that the majority of the refugees are in need of help, and if we are to continue to fulfill the role of protector then we should allow them in. However, the evidence from the Paris attack did indicate that some of the terrorists migrated with the refugees going into Europe. I'm concerned that this style of Trojan horse attacking isn't over, and that we need to take every precaution. I say we reserve a plot of land to detain all refugees while they are processed and interviewed one at a time prior to being integrated with our civilian population, and that they be registered so that once the situation in Syria is resolved, they are sent back immediately.

Response by SGT Joseph Dutton made Nov 16 at 2015 5:19 PM

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No! It will be another rerun what we had back in the 70's & 80's with the Cubin refugee's. But this time they will most likely will not end up in a camp/s but run about the streets. A good movie depicted the out come of refugee' s whom has other things on their mind other than good. Remember "Scarface" Staring Al Pacino.

Response by SGT Dana Williams made Nov 16 at 2015 7:35 PM

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This is utter stupidity! FBI acknowledges that the only criteria they have to work with is if the subject has been identified as ISIS/ISIL. Otherwise, they get a pass. Under Obama, we are not allowed the "luxury" of National Security. His actions amount to high treason!

Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Nov 16 at 2015 8:18 PM

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well then i will be getting my permit then, and a weapon soon. Because this Nation will continue to diminish with decisions like this being made. Just watch, another incident will occur...

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2015 1:07 PM

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What did Forrest Gump say, "Stupid is as stupid does."

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made Nov 17 at 2015 3:26 PM

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Sgt Kelli Mays I am a supporter of President Obama. I know that you are not. We both served our country to have the freedom to make those choices. However, this one causes me some concern. Although I am a great proponent of compassion to those in trouble and less fortunate. I also support help those in crisis. However, with ISIS using refugees as a means of gaining access to other countries to include the United States, I am very very cautious of this move. Unless there is a very strong vetting process, which I seriously doubt would happen, I cannot support allowing additional refugees from Syria into the United States.

There have been more than one "refugee" groups or members who have fostered attacks and this I find deplorable.

This is one issue I cannot support President Obama on.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Nov 17 at 2015 3:32 PM

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To the degree that ISIS can radicalize mostly young men to its cause, and get them to act on its behalf, it retains relevance.

Worst things we can do:

1. Put in large numbers of combat troops.
2. Refuse humanitarian aid to those in need – something the US has traditionally ALWAYS done.
3. Fail to realize that what the Obama Administration is doing is working. ISIS doesn’t like it.
4. Fail to address the underlying ‘hearts and minds’ component. In Viet Nam we had only a short time to make that work. Now, because we have no other choice, we have as long as it takes. We have to convince those guys sitting in their basements that our way of life is better than the one Radical Islam offers them.
5. Try and defend all – by denying entry to any and all refugees from that area. That would not follow Sun Tzu’s dictum that “He who defends all defends nothing.” We have to let 10,000 refugees in, even if there is a certainty to 100% that some are coming for martyrdom. That would be in opposition to my #2, which is imperative to win hearts and minds.

What we saw in Paris is going to be ISIS’ paradigm going forward.

Holding the lamp high to all who come is one of the best things about the United States.

Walt

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Nov 17 at 2015 7:54 PM

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The churches, to include evangelical ones, agree with him (or at least disagree with the governors)

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/refugees-christians-215991

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2015 11:30 PM

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Its amazing how a country full of immigrants is so racist. I bet if they were French refugees it wouldn't be all this hate.

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Nov 17 at 2015 11:32 PM

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Wrong, again. BHO can't miss, he gets everything wrong. The purpose of government is to protect the citizens. Letting in thousands of refugees, with a guaranteed infiltration, is not protecting the citizens.

Response by SP5 John Earl made Nov 17 at 2015 11:44 PM

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We have a moron for POTUS.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 12:09 AM

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I do not agree with POTUS.

Response by PO1 Kenneth Cardwell made Nov 18 at 2015 7:03 AM

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Response by SPC Nathan Freeman made Nov 18 at 2015 9:47 AM

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This just in: a stadium full of soccer fans in Turkey (where the refugees are coming through and from) booed a moment of silence and shouted "Allah Akbar" in defiance of the moment of silence. These aren't people I want in my neighborhood.

I like how Glenn Beck is vetting Christian Syrian refugees (who are actually refugees in danger)

Response by CPT Jason Mitchell, MBA made Nov 18 at 2015 10:45 AM

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SGT Kelli Mays, I think this is a great question that displays our social and political divide here in the U.S. Unfortunately, there is no good answer. Letting in 10s of thousands of unvetted immigrants from the most volatile area in the World is asking for a Paris repeat here in America. However, turning away all refugees without question would go against our nation's open history of accepting the "poor, weak, and weary".
Unlike the past eras in which we took in many European settlers, this is a much more dangerous and uncertain time in our history. We have a great opportunity to show the World that we are compassionate to the suffering of people, but also must be vigilant, resourceful, and think critically before we open our border to these refugees. I totally agree that it should be within States' rights to choose if they accept 10,000 or 0 refugees. The federal government should have no ability to force States to house, feed, insure, and educate people who would better fit within Arab or Middle Eastern countries whose language, religion, and culture better assimilate with these suffering people.
Lastly, by being so risk-averse in our dealings within Syria, we've created an even worse situation that has damaged our leadership standing within the World. Now, Russia and France are in a coalition that doesn't include the U.S. We may be "bombing" the ISIS bastards and providing some oversight in training anti-ISIS forces, but it is not enough. Allowing Russia to display their might (once again IE: Ukraine) is a major mistake that will costs us our standing within the World as a major player in international politics and leadership.
I see many former Iraq Veterans contributing to the fight alongside the Kurdish Fighters, and I still don't understand how the Obama Administration cannot see that the majority of American People want to take the fight to these murderous, Radical Islamic bastards before they permanently change the positive environment our great country has fought many centuries to build. I truly hope our administration makes the right decision that is based on the heart, but build on intelligent design and implementation.

Response by CW4 Russ Hamilton (Ret) made Nov 18 at 2015 12:09 PM

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http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/14/paris-attacker-was-a-syrian-refugee/

Paris Attacker Was A Syrian ‘Refugee’

One of the terrorists responsible for Friday night's attack in Paris used the passport of a Syrian migrant, a Greek government official confirmed Saturday. According to Greek deputy police ministe

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 1:55 PM

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No more until we take care of our own indigenous people

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Nov 18 at 2015 3:05 PM

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You forgot one thing...ALL Registered Dems will be taxed an additional 10% to pay for this. All GOP and independent taxes will remain the same. IF One person brought into the country kills one American all those that say bring them in should face the same punishment. I am sick and tired of people betting my Kids lives with there holier than thou BS. I'm telling you here and now...YOU do NOT have the right to bet my kids lives on these refugees or the Vetting process

Response by LT Erik Frederick made Nov 18 at 2015 3:32 PM

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This is a great article by former Navy Seal Dave Rogers.
http://www.thenewportbuzz.com/a-simple-solution-to-the-syrian-refugee-situation/5121

A Simple Solution To The Syrian Refugee Situation

by Dave Rogers On the Syrian refugee situation.. it occurs to me the White House could clear this up pretty quickly, or at a minimum make a compelling argument for letting refugees into the various states which are resisting their arrival. The administration is looking to re-settle 10,000 Syrian refugees (15? I have heard different…

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Nov 18 at 2015 5:01 PM

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Kelli,
Usually your posts are great and make total sense but did you read what you wrote? The headline states that Obama is NOT going to accept 10,000 refugees then you wander all over the place. BTW, referencing the statements by Billary the correct term is "Poppy Cock" not "Cocky Pop"
Bring back the old YOU please!
Thanks,
Rick

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2015 8:59 PM

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"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddle masses yearning to breathe free..."

Ring a bell? I am not against the idea of this since this is how most of our ancestors came over.

That being said I think we are going about this wrong, send all of them to Alaska, they'll be safe and really can't access our super critical infrastructure

Response by COL Charles Williams made Nov 19 at 2015 12:03 AM

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No... I agree with nothing he says or does.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2015 7:22 AM

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Sgt Kelli Mays Missed that but I saw this and couldn't believe what I was reading. Really? "It's going to be a multiyear task"? Does this need to be said out loud? I think this has been well established. And the part about Syria and the need for a "political settlement" Seriously?
"U.S. President Barack Obama has warned of the long road that lies ahead in the global effort to defeat ISIS. "It's going to be a multiyear task," he said Thursday at a regional conference in the Philippines. "And we're not going to be able to fully succeed in eliminating their safe havens until we have a political settlement of some sort in Syria.""

Response by SSG Keith Fosmire made Nov 19 at 2015 7:43 AM

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I think we should be redirecting them to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar..etc. I am sure this is just another way for our corrupt politicians to fatten their wallets.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2015 10:09 AM

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how can we take care of 10,000 refugees when we cannot even take care of our homeless veterans. I am pretty sure they will be given homes and stipends to live, where is the justice for our own people who served their nation and probably fought some of these supposed refugees.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Nov 19 at 2015 10:09 AM

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Sgt Kelli Mays Most of the at takers were French or Belgian born. I'm not sure that a terrorist will wait for a 2 year vetting process in order to enter the country.

Response by SPC David S. made Nov 19 at 2015 10:43 AM

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This overly optimistic policy by POTUS will be exploited. As there is nothing to vet these individuals against and that we are at war, declared by ISIS, this is a really bad idea. It is a dereliction of his duty to protect and defend the constitution. What I do not understand is why this does not even cause POTUS to pause in his decision as he has already stated he will veto any refugee bill.

1) Didn't do any thing when Assad crossed the line - Russia is now in the mix - BAD POLICY
2) Underestimating ISIS - Early withdraw of Iraq and no SOFA - BAD POLICY
3) Taking in unvetted refugees from a crisis he helped create by not ousting Assad. - BAD POLICY

I welcome the discussion that can counter my claims that POTUS has failed the Syrians via egregious policy.

Response by SSgt Ray Stone made Nov 19 at 2015 11:37 AM

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Politicians, the lows they would go to. You all know this is all about votes right? Think about it the Dems will have a stronger voting block by allowing this refugees to infiltrate our Country, I'm sure once they learn American politics, and someone will tell them " Hey the Dems let you guys into the country. Who do you think the majority will vote for no matter the policy? Hmmmm

Response by SPC Nathan Freeman made Nov 19 at 2015 1:32 PM

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More Syrians were caught crossing the Mexican border. Others were caught in Honduras headed our way. I'm sure they were nice people though.

Response by PO1 Richard Knox made Nov 19 at 2015 1:35 PM

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Does the safety and security of our Homeland mean anything to our Comander and Chief? We prove our compassion every year with the deployment of humanitarian aid, supplies, medical assistance, military assistance and BILLIONS of our dollars around the world. Rational Americans have asked how wise and prudent it is to leave our borders unguarded while swarms of illegal (undocumented) aliens cross our borders unimpeded. The President is asked about the thousands of HAMAS Muslim and other immigrants are brought into our country under the visa waiver program and he ramps it up to tens of thousands. Now, in the wake of recent ISIS activities and threats our Commander and Chief belittles a majority of our citizens (aiming at the GOP) for being scared of widows and 3 year old orphans. Let's just throw open our arms (gates) to tens of thousands of un-vetted refugees from Syria and wherever else. Obama's since of timing seems to be off if we're still talking about the safety and security of our country. Has ANYONE informed Mr. Obama that there is a very active group of people out there wanting to kill every one of us? Even in the wake of what happened in France our Commander and Chief feels no need to reassess his strategy. So maybe the question should be, is this what Candidate Obama promised as "radical transformation of our country" or is it more like his retribution, payback or wrath on those who "cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them" Nation his own pastor (Rev. Wright) condemned with "God Damn America"? You, me and every military minded person knows you NEVER let your enemy into your camp. All I can say to all this is, you will know a man by what he says, but you will know him best by what he does. " Behavior Never Lies.

Response by SPC Nathan Freeman made Nov 19 at 2015 2:16 PM

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http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/15/saudi-arabia-has-100000-air-conditioned-tents-sitt/ LTC Private RallyPoint Member CPT L S

Why aren't the Saudis letting in a single refugee? Or any other Muslim nation? I'd honestly like that question answered.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 19 at 2015 2:20 PM

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His spinning the truth is getting old. His priorities are screwed up. His perfection of reality is effed up. He is surrounded by vacuous agency and cabinet leaders who have the vision and understanding of HS seniors.

Response by PO1 Brian Austin made Nov 19 at 2015 2:59 PM

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I say send them back, don't accept any. Establish a No Fly Zone in Syria for them, like we did in Iraq for the Kurds and Shia's.

We have six Syrians being apprehended in Honduras with fake Greek passports. Two Syrian families turned themselves in at Laredo Tx border crossing today. Granted odds are the families aren't "terrorists", but the fact that Syrians are now trying to come through our southern border is troubling to say the least. Illegals come through our southern border with impunity as it is. It would not be hard at all for ISIS members to try to come through as Syrian "refugees" or use Coyotes to bring them across. It's already happened in Europe. It's kind of interesting the richest Arab Gulf states (Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, Oman, Kuwait, UAE) won't take any in.

ISIS is already extremely social media savvy as it is, which makes their recruitment that much easier as it is. We need to protect ourselves, not leave ourselves open.

I completely disagree with this Administration. It's like they have their heads in the clouds and want to sit around in a circle singing Kumbayaa. Oh, but we have a "vetting process" in place for the "refugees". That really bestows a lot of confidence....not.

We need a coherent policy against ISIS. Not this piece meal BS that we've been doing. It has to be "all in" or nothing.

Response by Sgt Jerami Ballard made Nov 19 at 2015 3:34 PM

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I might be among the most on the fence person you would find on this.

Our nation is founded on the principle of,
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

These people deserve the chance at a life of peace, even if it is 6000 miles away from the land they once called home.

However, I have serious reservations about this.
The FBI and DHS both admitted that they cannot vet these people. Any records that possibly would exist on them would belong to President Basshir's record and have probably been destroyed amongst the bitter destruction of the Syrian capitol.
Those of us who have been to Iraq and Afghanistan know first-hand that terrorism does not wear a uniform, it does not have an age of consent, and it does not have a gender stipulation on the act of killing others.
What is does have however is a time-tested and proven ability to smuggle itself amongst the masses and extend its reach to parts unknown. The attacks in Paris and attempted attack in Germany only further prove that point.

Which brings me to my second point.

These people with need aid, they will need education, training, and financial assistance. They will also need to be medically surveilled.
That is where we CAN vet them as much as possible, the Federal Government by law, is solely responsible for these people no matter what state they end up in.
We can keep track of their employment, housing, assistance, and medical treatment.
We can legally keep a close eye on them as they go through the Naturalization Process because as asylum seekers they have no choice but to go through that process.
We can identify possible threats, we are damn good at that, but not acting upon those threats will put the blood on this administration's hands.

And as horrible of a thing that is, we have a citizenry that is uniquely capable of defending itself and that not waste a heartbeat to hold those responsible to their actions or lack thereof.
We are on the cusp of a massive societal shift in policy and we will progress either through the labor of law adhered to or through gunpowder and Constitutional supremacy.

So let them in, watch them, warn them. They chose to come here and we chose to let them in. Tell them that we desire peace, but can incite violence as well as any jihadist or extremist the world has seen and if they come here insincerely then they doom their pitiful organization to a wrath of biblical proportions.

Response by SGT Jay Ehrenfeld made Nov 19 at 2015 8:28 PM

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I refuse to listen to a man that hated America more then life itself he donesn't care want is right along we do as he order us to do and not question his action

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Nov 20 at 2015 7:45 AM

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Jim Webb remains in the race. ALL the mainstream presidential candidates are dilettantes compared to him.

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made Nov 20 at 2015 9:15 AM

2015-11-20T09:15:18-05:00

Frankly, the fact that George W. Bush didn't issue an Executive Order to INS revoking all non-permanent visas and mandating immediate deportation for anybody from a mohammedan country on 9/12/01, if not 9/11, was borderline treasonous.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2015 11:07 AM

2015-11-20T11:07:33-05:00

no and that creep needs to stop. do you think he would let 20,000 christians in? That is rhetorical question.. he would never... obama needs to go back with them. Syrians. He was the one who bombed them....

Response by SFC Brian Ewing made Nov 20 at 2015 11:16 AM

2015-11-20T11:16:19-05:00

No I don't agree with him on this!! We have Veterans who are Homeless, Jobless and need assistance that hasn't gotten any attention but yet here we are giving attention immediately to these people who aren't even Americans like our Veterans who has served our Country honorably and faithfully.

Take care of home first, how can you fix someone else's problems when you are broken yourself??

Response by CW3 Jim Norris made Nov 20 at 2015 11:33 AM

2015-11-20T11:33:42-05:00

Barrack brings a whole new level of stupid to this argument. Of the 'refugees' - 15% think Israel and the US are the problem, 15% think Sharia should be enforced, 25% think ISIS is OK......taking the children and raising them in non-muslim homes is OK. Everyone else, go back to the middle east and try and come forward in time 6-8 centuries in philosophy and then we can talk. Did he, Barrack, hear the testimony of the FBI and CIA - we don't have ANY information on 98% of these people to know what they are - but I can tell you one thing for certain, many of them want to cut your head off for Allah, and a larger percentage would stand by and watch it happen. Good Lord Congress, stop this insanity....oh yeah, I forgot, you're spineless minions.

Response by SSG John Mitchell made Nov 20 at 2015 12:30 PM

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If their own kind won't have them, meaning Saudi Arabia and the like, WE damn sure don't want them. Yet this POS of a POTUS is doing his usual end-run and NOT listening to the will of the people. Just doing as he pleases because he THINKS he knows better. I believe the next President is gonna have a MUCH harder time if he tries the same type of shit. The People have had enough and I think everyone is just waiting for him to leave but there are too many that are fed up with Government Representatives NOT listening. So they're just waiting to see if we get Business and Usual with the next one or truth and follow through with their Promises.

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Nov 20 at 2015 5:57 PM

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He never does anything wrong... ever!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2015 7:12 PM

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I guess alllivesdontmatter lol.

Response by PV2 Scott Goodpasture made Nov 20 at 2015 10:19 PM

2015-11-20T22:19:17-05:00

No. He's a douche

Response by Cpl Tou Lee Yang made Nov 20 at 2015 10:32 PM

2015-11-20T22:32:06-05:00

Christmas is about a Middle Eastern couple that desperately needs a place to stay. I hope all the Christians out there understand this.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Nov 21 at 2015 1:15 AM

2015-11-21T01:15:02-05:00

Okay, so how about this idea?
Since Obama wants these folks to come over so badly...how about we park them all in DC....or half of them in DC and the other half in Chicago...his home town and where he'll probably go back to....so him and his administration can fend for these folks in DC and in Chicago.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2015 2:07 AM

2015-11-21T02:07:03-05:00

1. Obama is an irresponsible idiot and is terrible representation for both Democrats and OUR COUNTRY. He has never had our safety/best interests in mind/heart.
2. NO, we can NOT just let these refugees in because "we're America and we're better than that". See #1, you probably voted for him. Twice!! No Lol follows.
3. This is not a "race" or an "all lives matter" thing. This is a terrorism thing. Please don't be fooled!
4. Please don't vote for HC. Have you not learned from the current admin debacle?
5. Get ready for war on our soil. We're headed down a very troublesome path and we can not afford to be ignorant or aloof.

Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Nov 21 at 2015 4:02 PM

2015-11-21T16:02:07-05:00

The hate and paranoia on here is amazing.

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2015 1:18 AM

2015-11-22T01:18:53-05:00

I don't feel most are realizing the extent to which the refugee's are being vetted. It is an 18-20 month process and not simply a golden ticket to come to the United States. Honestly these people need our help and to turn our back on them seems to go against the American way. If we do the vetting correctly and monitor them (which you know they will go into a data base) then I see no issues with this. This should not be a political issue it should be a human rights issue.

Response by 1SG James A. "Bud" Parker made Nov 22 at 2015 1:19 PM

2015-11-22T13:19:44-05:00

Absolutely not. In my humble retired opinion it is absolute lunacy to bring the indigenous population from this region into the USA because of the very likely possibility of importing Jihadists, a stated goal of the enemy.

Response by MAJ Randall Von Rosenberg made Nov 26 at 2015 9:44 PM

2015-11-26T21:44:47-05:00

Hey Rally Point Colleagues I need your help!!! I did not know you could do this but "CPT (Servicemember)" has just disabled me from his/her strand in being able to provide a contrary view. This person is a coward and cannot handle or debate contradicting points of view. This person is a MOLE on this site spewing propoganda & agenda driven drivel. How can we all block this person?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 15 at 2015 6:41 PM

2015-12-15T18:41:08-05:00

I don't understand why they don't stay and fight for their country! Why are the oil empires of the Middle East like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt and the UAE welcoming their neighbors? Why is it America's problem? Taking in these refugees will not stabilize the region nor benefit us as a country.