Did the POTUS just suggest that it would be okay for our troops to fire weapons at immigrants (including women & children) who throw rocks ?

2018-11-01T22:04:04-04:00

Is this really going to be the ROE down there?

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Trump, stoking caravan fears, says troops will fire on migrants if they 'throw rocks'
Caitlin Dickson 1 hour 11 minutes ago

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Trump needs to deploy US military to southern border: Tom Fitton

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President Trump said Thursday that he hopes the military troops being deployed to the United States’ southwestern border will not have to fire upon any migrants attempting to enter the country through Mexico, but warned that if any rocks are thrown from across the border “we will consider that a firearm.”
“They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back,” Trump said. “I say, consider it a rifle.”

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Nov 1 at 2018 10:10 PM

2018-11-01T22:10:59-04:00

Did the last president set a precedent?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azcentral.com/amp/85670112

7 times rock-throwing ended in deadly force by U.S. Border Patrol agents

Since 2010, Border Patrol agents have killed several people in alleged rock-throwing incidents. Here is a list of the seven people killed.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Nov 1 at 2018 10:39 PM

2018-11-01T22:39:39-04:00

Rocks are not modern bullets but they can kill just as surely and just as dead as a bullet to a vital organ. Lethal force is an instrument of last resort but it is an instrument that if forced to, the nation will deploy.

Just because they appear to be unarmed does not make that fact.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Nov 1 at 2018 11:03 PM

2018-11-01T23:03:34-04:00

1SG Private RallyPoint Member The National Guardsmen at Kent State should not have had live rounds.

One wounded migrant will be a National disaster.

My earlier post re: Mine fields with ‘ ‘PELIGRO’ (DANGER) in Spanish.

If they go into a signed danger area - they knew or will find out better!

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Nov 2 at 2018 10:54 AM

2018-11-02T10:54:31-04:00

More political drama by Trump. That is all this is. He knows the Republicans are in trouble in some states and waves his "nationalist" flag.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Nov 2 at 2018 10:57 AM

2018-11-02T10:57:47-04:00

Yup, Better ROE than we had in combat. Guess if you don't want to get smoked you probably aught to not swarm the border and go to the legal ports of entry.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2018 6:57 PM

2018-11-02T18:57:43-04:00

What I've heard quoted from Trump is "consider the rocks and cans they throw at you as a rifle". DOD establishes ROEs after running it by legal as well as the WH. Mattis said he is responding to a request from DHS. They requested trigger-pullers, but Mattis refused that and approved what they are now sending.