PFC Eric Minchey 58484 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in&quot;&gt;What do you think the chances are of<br />there being a second revolution/civil war in America? Could things<br />like The Occupy Movement, The Tea Party Movement, etc. lead to a<br />second revolution/civil war in the United States? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; 2014-02-16T15:15:10-05:00 PFC Eric Minchey 58484

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p style=&quot;margin-bottom: 0in&quot;&gt;What do you think the chances are of<br />there being a second revolution/civil war in America? Could things<br />like The Occupy Movement, The Tea Party Movement, etc. lead to a<br />second revolution/civil war in the United States? &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

2014-02-16T15:15:10-05:00 2014-02-16T15:15:10-05:00 SSG Andrew Dydasco 58486

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In only a few years?  I doubt that much.  Ever? I suppose anything is possible.

2014-02-16T15:23:06-05:00 2014-02-16T15:23:06-05:00 1LT Private RallyPoint Member 58496

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>PFC Minchey.  Not at all likely.  The people expressing high political outrage are not the kind to pick up a weapon and fight against our superior forces to overthrow the government.  People foolhardy enough to try this are not the people we want running our government. We always have political dissidents.  But they wisely choose not to identify as terrorists or to organize and fight in such a manner as to attract any federal military intervention.  Warmest Regards, Sandy

2014-02-16T16:03:04-05:00 2014-02-16T16:03:04-05:00 SSG Laureano Pabon 58499

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>&lt;p&gt;Well if my mother/ father-in law come to live with us again, chances are very highly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;considering that they planning in doing so.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Occupy moment seems to be the intentions and I threw away all the tea out of the shelves in my home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;JK&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I actually love them both very much and my home is there home as well.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But no I don&#39;t believe any second revolutionary war or civil war will ever take place here in America, unless you know something I don&#39;t.&lt;/p&gt;

2014-02-16T16:15:19-05:00 2014-02-16T16:15:19-05:00 SFC Steven Harvey 58507

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, people care more for the luxuries of TV, Microwaves and what not. &amp;nbsp;Look at last years ratings of the State of the Union vs any week that American Idol is on. &amp;nbsp;It&#39;s the same reason war probably wouldn&#39;t break out between China and the US. &amp;nbsp;Both sides would lose, it&#39;s the same idea with any factions there might be here in the States.

2014-02-16T17:08:18-05:00 2014-02-16T17:08:18-05:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 58514

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When the US defaults on our debt it will be more likely.<div><br></div><div> Also not raising the debt ceiling will not cause us to default.</div>

2014-02-16T17:42:04-05:00 2014-02-16T17:42:04-05:00 CSM Chris McKeown 58531

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the morality of the nation keeps going on it's current path and the nation keeps going into debt and not paying it's bills, the chances are very high that we will see another civil war. <br>

2014-02-16T18:31:41-05:00 2014-02-16T18:31:41-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 58566

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Here&#39;s an opposing view point after 4 years in Bosnia: &amp;nbsp;it&#39;s possible.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The Bosnian war happened because the Yugoslavian Army became predominantly a single ethnicity. &amp;nbsp;When that ethnicity came to power, it was the perfect storm: corrupt government + willing military = genocide.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I would argue that if the military was unified on a single issue and the government opposed that issue, the military would refuse to back the government. &amp;nbsp;Government program/policy - willing military = civil war.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have seen this play out in the Middle East where the commanding general of the military ends up opposed to the sitting ruler. &amp;nbsp;The General then attempts to wrest power from the government or the military declares military rule.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is a mistake to believe that the population needs to be mobilized in any kind of a large scale. &amp;nbsp;In most Civil Wars, including our own right through what is happening right now in Syria, much of the population is passive and just gets herded around or used for human shields.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Yugoslavia was a well-off, modern nation before the war. &amp;nbsp;In 1984, they hosted the Winter Olympics in Sarajevo, 8 years later, Sarajevo was under siege. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I hear a lot of rhetoric in our country full of utterly false analogies and hyperbolic claims that seem intended less to promote educated debate than to lather anger and distrust. &amp;nbsp;We are the most connected generation ever, but it seems instead of people using that to gather information, people use it to spread propaganda. &amp;nbsp;The kinds of propaganda that claim that those who disagree are &quot;un-American&quot; or worse, less than human.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Considering all of this, I would not assess that Civil War is impossible here.&lt;/div&gt;

2014-02-16T19:48:48-05:00 2014-02-16T19:48:48-05:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 58639

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There's going to be a war in my house if I deploy later this year.

2014-02-16T22:03:10-05:00 2014-02-16T22:03:10-05:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 58692

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I personally believe that it is a distinct possibility that there could be a second civil war in this country. As others in this thread have already pointed out, one of the primary catalysts to the Revolutionary war, and a contributing factor in the Civil War, was taxes. With the ever increasing tax burden being placed on the populace, and the loopholes that the wealthy and corporations are able to exploit to avoid paying taxes, you have to wonder at what point will the citizens decide that enough is enough. <div><br></div><div>You also have to take into account the political environment right now. Our elected representatives are becoming more and more out of touch with their constituents, and the lives that they live. Case in point, a recent interview with Hillary Clinton, in which she revealed that she has not even driven a car since 1996. Politicians are now more concerned with making risk averse decisions that will ensure their reelection, rather than make the tougher choices that better serve the country as a whole. Our current Commander in Chief flaunts the fact that he has, and will continue to circumvent the legislative process by signing Executive Orders, changing laws without congressional approval. Of course we have to add in the numerous wealthy individuals who believe they can basically purchase legislature, and influence the government by promising or denying "donations".</div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, the near constant assaults on the Constitutional rights of the citizens as well. No longer do we as citizens have a reasonable expectation of privacy, as nearly all of our electronic communications are intercepted, including our web usage statistics, and at times even our telephone conversations as evidenced by the recent NSA scandal. Freedom from illegal search and seizure is blown out of the water by police departments on a near daily basis, and usually ends up with a very bad outcome for someone. And of course everyone's favorite hot topic, the right to keep and bear arms. California has already begun confiscation efforts, and passed laws that basically make it near impossible for a law abiding citizen to own a firearm, and that is just one example.</div><div><br></div><div>Thomas Jefferson said "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". This particular saying is becoming a battle cry of sorts to those who desire change, as much as the Gadston Flag is becoming their banner. With everything that we are forced to endure as citizens, we have to wonder how much more will go unopposed before someone makes that first move toward a new civil war. All it will take is one voice, screaming loud enough, to start the ball in motion.</div>

2014-02-16T23:53:46-05:00 2014-02-16T23:53:46-05:00 PFC Thomas Graves 58776

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes.  The government has turned into a cancer that is starting to affect too many people's financial health. <br>

2014-02-17T04:16:00-05:00 2014-02-17T04:16:00-05:00 SGT Ben Keen 58881

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A bit off topic, but what exactly did The Occupy Movement accomplish?  They were here in Pittsburgh for a few weeks and that resulted in one of the best public parks having to be closed, cleaned and re-sodded.  They made a mess of the area and walking around downtown was terrible while they were here.  The "movement" was nothing more than a burp on the social radar.  

2014-02-17T09:55:01-05:00 2014-02-17T09:55:01-05:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 58932

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>COULD it happen? Sure, anything is possible, however unlikely. It wouldn't last very long if it did though. Any element larger than squad sized would be drone fodder... Not to mention communications between elements. If people are paranoid about the government listening NOW, how much listening will be happening if an actual revolt occurred?<div><br></div><div>Between Airstrikes, Smart Bombs, Guided Munitions, Drones, Artillery, Mortars, Aircraft Carrier support, Submarine Missile launches and countless other tools at the government's disposal, a revolt would just be a good way to ensure the malcontents are summarily destroyed. Heck, that's might be a good tactic. Encourage revolt, see who takes the bait, and drop a tomahawk cruise missile on their first meeting..</div>

2014-02-17T11:44:55-05:00 2014-02-17T11:44:55-05:00 SPC Christopher Smith 59167

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>History shows us that we are about on time for some type of large scale civil unrest. Depending on when it happens will depend on which side of the line I&#39;ll be fighting I guess.

2014-02-17T17:00:58-05:00 2014-02-17T17:00:58-05:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 59172

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I personally believe it might happen down the road, and my worry is that the Coup will come from the inside like the military. 

2014-02-17T17:06:26-05:00 2014-02-17T17:06:26-05:00 SFC Matthew Isenbart 59304

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There certainly has been quite a division between schools of thought regarding how the country should be governed.  I think if there were another revolution or civil war it would be waged on the battlefield of the voting polls.  If you read the Declaration of Independence it states(and I am paraphrasing), that a people must cast off the oppressive or tyrannical government...we have come to a point in our age as a nation that in order for us to cast off any form of tyranny (if there were some in this country) we the people have the power to do that.  If you are 18 years old you need to watch all sides of the new, read news papers from all  points of view and stay in tune to the issues of the day.  Don't just believe what people are saying on the internet (because we all know everything on the internet is true) and do your own research on things.  Then when November rolls around during an election year vote the person out of office you think is not doing a good job.  That is how the revolt needs to happen.  In a way, that is what sparked the Tea Party movements around the country.  The Tea Party is not a political party.  It is groups of individual and separate entities that have no real affiliation with one another.  But I digress.  For there to be an armed conflict between American citizens and the government, it would be your duty as service members to defend the government through your sworn oath.  If there were to be a coup of some sort, anyone involved would be breaking military law as well as civil law.

2014-02-17T20:30:07-05:00 2014-02-17T20:30:07-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 98987

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>CPT Wolfer provided an absolutely fantastic answer to this, and I wish I could vote her up more than just once. To take what she said, and give an even more macro argument, consider this. No government has ever stood the test of time. <br><br>At some point, by some means, because of some reason, our current form of government will fall. It could happen this year, a few centuries from now, or if we're lucky in a millenia or two, but it is inevitable. <br><br>It may not be a civil war, hell we could abdicate sovereignty to a world government way down the road, or a million other possible things could happen, but to deny that a civil war is at the least possible is lunacy in my opinion. <br>

2014-04-11T01:03:00-04:00 2014-04-11T01:03:00-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 99365

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely. Anything is possible. Given the fact that revolution and civil war are the result of civil unrest amongst a community of people all it would take is the uprising of a group of individuals that feel that change needs to happen.

2014-04-11T14:38:04-04:00 2014-04-11T14:38:04-04:00 LCpl Mark Lefler 100443

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Two day from now, it'll be old news.

2014-04-12T21:21:10-04:00 2014-04-12T21:21:10-04:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 185923

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A lot of you are responding with very good points, both socio-economic and political, but let's cut through some of it and get to a bottom line: Off-center nut bags (of either the right or left leaning variety) are the only ones who would like to make drastic changes to our nation. The rest of us (the majority by a huge landslide) would like to take the path of least resistance and just fix what's broken. The right and left propagate a bunch of hype to best serve their agenda, and like our elected officials they only see a means to better serve themselves and not our nation as a whole. They would have you believe we all stand polar opposite to each other, when the fact is that the population is more homogenous on issues of domestic and international affairs with only minor differences on a handful of issues. <br /><br />My one true fear is the day we replace the current self-serving hypocrites with off-center, off-base nut jobs with extreme agendas which will only serve a minority of the population and result in brother killing brother.<br /><br />"One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

2014-07-25T07:15:35-04:00 2014-07-25T07:15:35-04:00 PFC Zanie Young 189065

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hmmm... If there is, don't involve me... I see enough news going on as it is... drug and gang wars on the street, police brutality, you name it.

2014-07-29T12:50:13-04:00 2014-07-29T12:50:13-04:00 SSG Gerhard S. 190776

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It could be argued that our " Civil War" was NOT a "Civil War" because the South was not fighting for control over the government, but rather wanted to simply and Peaceably Secede. The "Union" forces and Pres Lincoln had other ideas though.

2014-07-31T09:54:51-04:00 2014-07-31T09:54:51-04:00 PO1 Private RallyPoint Member 191431

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Given study of history and looking at the parallels between now and say the mid 1850's (or 300 to 400 A.D.) there is a significant chance of open conflict erupting over a myriad of issues.<br /><br />The big issue truly facing such a decision however is that, unlike in the first civil war, there will be no clear "sides" that you can detect. It would not be a north vs south, or east vs west, issue. The "sides", if you can call it that, would be more culturally based and be far too numerous to name. A larger confusing factor would be that we are so spread out culturally (New York City and LA being on either side of the country yet having similar political ideology) that coalescing into a singular force for either "side" would be logistically impossible. The ensuing conflict, if it were to start, would be a stagnant blood bath reminiscent of trench warfare in WW1...lots of dead boys and girls with nothing to show for it.<br /><br />What is more likely to happen, rather than an organized war, is a complete breakdown of society through a specific catalyst depending on issues. An economic crash like 1929 for example would cause massive civil unrest...after all, just how many people across the country are totally dependent on EBT cards to eat? There was a glitch during the sequester in North Carolina where people didn't get their benefits, cards showing $0.00 balance. Stores like Wal-Mart allowed people to make purchases, many far exceeding what the individual was allowed through the program in order to stave of rioting. Passing legislation to enact immediate nation wide gun confiscation would cause people to barricade in their homes at least, and cause mobs to take over local police stations and armories at worst. With militia groups and the Texas NG taking up positions on the border, I couldn't begin to tell you what sort of response the Mexican government and our own Federal government would be if shots were fired. I don't mean a couple of pot shots either, I'm speaking of a Lexington &amp; Concord or Boston Massacre type incident. How would the public react to mandatory quarantines should the recent outbreak of Ebola spread to the US? While I do not think many would object to quarantining those who are infected, how would people react to being quarantined on a mass scale who don't show signs "just to be safe". Benjamin Franklin's quote on security and liberty comes to mind.<br /><br />Here is the thought however that truly bugs me about the possibility of a revolution/civil war...what is the exit plan? In all the conversations I have had, which gives me some hope at the moment that the blood bath isn't likely to happen soon, not one person who thinks a conflict wouldn't be a bad idea can tell me what they would do if somehow they succeeded. Its very easy to say "restore the republic" but given how divided we as a people are on just everything, how would you "restore the republic" in such a way so as to not become this divided again in 10 years? The only way I can personally see to accomplish that is to impose your own will and way of life at the barrel of a gun...ushering in an oligarchy or dictatorship depending on how its accomplished which is precisely what the conflict itself would of set out to avoid in the first place, exchanging one tyranny for another. Another thing to consider is what sort of draconian policies would be put in place should a revolution fail?<br /><br />I digress, back on point...yes a possibility exists because people are getting more and more frustrated and discontent at the current state of affairs and are seeing more and more that they can't do anything about it. (voting doesn't work for example) How likely is it that it could happen? Can't give you a solid answer, time will tell.

2014-08-01T01:38:53-04:00 2014-08-01T01:38:53-04:00 SPC David S. 191447

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Certainly any civil unrest can lead to civil war. With increasing distress and armed and willing factions disagreements could escalate to an armed conflict. However if we drill down on the topic we will eventually get to the why. Personally my most likely "fire sale" is an economic collapse that is followed by a multiparty civil war with 3 to 4 groups vying for control. This I feel is the only true viable possibility due to the global ramifications that would limit international intervention. Most likely parties would be military factions and civil factions. As we have seen in OIF and OEF low tech forces with limited numbers and resources can be quit determined with their resolve. However military factions will more than likely align to form a military state and take control as this is the nature of our military. This outcome is in part because the Army has been preparing a battle plan through an operation called “Unified Quest 2011” in which it studies the “implications of ‘large scale economic breakdown’ inside the United States that would force the Army to keep ‘domestic order amid civil unrest.'” The study also examines how the Army would function in order to “deal with fragmented global power on a drastically lower budget.” Maybe I'm just paranoid but if still serving I would be careful with any association or rhetoric involving "revolt or coup de tête"

2014-08-01T02:34:08-04:00 2014-08-01T02:34:08-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 191514

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's always possible, but I think technology will keep this in check. Mostly through government use. Technology is able to check on trends. There was an article that the military/NSA observe Facebook trends. Technically, this can allow the government to remain adaptive or react to situations before the potentially start.

2014-08-01T07:34:48-04:00 2014-08-01T07:34:48-04:00 PFC Eric Minchey 193341

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2014-08-03T15:50:22-04:00 2014-08-03T15:50:22-04:00 SSgt Private RallyPoint Member 299144

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nope. There could be a revolution that would be stomped in a matter of minutes if the government wanted to shut it down. <br /><br />Sounds like it would be a good Michael Bay movie though.

2014-10-29T07:17:27-04:00 2014-10-29T07:17:27-04:00 2014-02-16T15:15:10-05:00