Civilian Career Advice for the NCO who wants to work in the Financial Industry

Cpl James McCoy-Flowers — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:49:47 -0400

Today in my inbox I received an invite to "virtual career fair"; which was good to go, because I am currently looking for employment. Well one of the companies in the fair, Chase, has a "Chase Military Officer Executive Development Program" which upon reading is exactly what I was looking for; save for the glaring requirement that you have been a "military officer". Apparently there are plenty of these "leadership / executive development" programs but they are all targeting officers.

Does anyone know of similar programs but for NCOs (E-4 - E-5) who have Masters / advanced degrees?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2015 7:10 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:10:25 -0400

Not sure about specific programs, but if you think you meet their requirements, contact them and apply!

Response by LTC Yinon Weiss made Mar 24 at 2015 8:39 PM

LTC Yinon Weiss — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:39:19 -0400

I definitely recommend you contact Chase and explain to them that you meet all the educational requirements. Most of these companies don't really know the difference of military ranks, and put "Military Officer" because they don't know many enlisted actually have the required eduction (or even more than required as in your case). You should apply anyway and contact them to explain.

GE is another similar program that requires one to be an officer. It has a good reputation... I would hope that they look over the commissioning requirements for the right person.

http://www.ge.com/careers/culture/us-veterans/junior-officer-leadership-program

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Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2015 8:51 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:51:58 -0400

Cpl James McCoy-Flowers I also agree that if you meet the requirements for the job/company and especially with an advanced degree in an area they are seeking as a junior NCO you still have demonstrated leadership above what many of your civilian peers have had the opportunity to practice. In your resume, be sure to "translate" military to civilian equivalent representation and do not use acronyms (some great advice on resumes here in RP, mine is at "Lessons Learned from Building and Reviewing Resumes" but there are some others too well worth reading). I have now been on several government job selection panels and a well presented and well written resume was the first discriminator used to go through the hundreds of applicants and the second was education, followed by experience that met the job description requirement. At the risk of repeating what I have put in other discussions, I can't stress enough how important capturing classes you have taught and articles you have published are for a resume/Curriculum vitae (CV).

Also, don't wait for a company's exec development opportunity if that is something you truly desire as there are many out there you can do on your own or with your GI bill benefit. I have taken advantage of several offered by the Fred Pryor Group (http://www.pryor.com). $200 gets you one year of unlimited online classes and two free resident programs. Also there is a RP discussion on getting certified as a program manager and other programs that are recognized by civilian employers. The most important step is getting into the company with a culture that is compatible with your values and goals and that you feel you can assist to the "next level" and then look for professional development opportunities there. Seek something you are passionate about and when you get to the interview be prepared to tell them how you will be able to help them. My best wishes to you!

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Response by SPC Jesse Akers made Mar 25 at 2015 2:42 PM

SPC Jesse Akers — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:42:41 -0400

I would highly encourage you to apply, you are a non-commissioned officer. Be prepared to answer what that means to you, the things you share in common and what sets you apart from commissioned officers. I think it could be a selling point, rather than a weakness, that you are a NCO and can bring that different perspective.

If they are inflexible and cannot see outside of the box, they may not be the best choice for you.

Response by BG Richard Keene made Mar 26 at 2015 11:43 AM

BG Richard Keene — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:43:16 -0400

AMICA Insurance is a good company with branches throughout the continental U.S. It continually hires entry level executives with four year degrees. They are strong supporters of the military with excellent career progression opportunities.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 4:48 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:48:58 -0400

I had a great interview with First Command Financial Services just before I retired. I thought it was a great gig for someone who wasn't me. It's a quality organization that will train to suit their needs and deals almost entirely with veterans.

http://www.firstcommand.com/

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Mar 26 at 2015 11:11 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 23:11:09 -0400

Cpl James McCoy-Flowers, there are many companies in the financial services industry that do not require you to have been a commissioned officer. Widen your search to include insurance companies that offer the same or similar services to the traditional brokerage firms. If you wish further guidance, just let me know.