Chances of getting a waiver to re-enlist?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:19:06 -0500

I was discharged from the Army on November 13, 2012. It was a chapter 11 RE-3. Now I am currently trying to enlist in the Air Force I've taken my ASVAB I got a 73 and now I'm waiting. My recruiter told me I am being considered for three different waivers the first is to be considered a new enlistment, which he said was the simplest and most likely what I would receive. The second is that I will be considered prior service with my MOS, which is not going to happen since I didn't make it to AIT and my DD-214 doesn't have it listed. The third is that I will be considered prior service with direct duty, probably not going to happen since I didn't complete basic. I'm 100% okay with being a new enlistment, I get to start over, but with the upper hand on what to expect. This process so far has taken about 3 months. My recruiter told me that the last prior service he had took 6-7 months to get a waiver. Not that it matters, but the back story of my discharge, it was supposed to be a medical I was told I had shattered my knee cap according to the bone scan I was told to go back the next day to start my med board paperwork. So I went back the doctor I had talked to wasn't there and there was no record of my bone scan I don't know what happened, the other doctor that I saw that day called me a liar and said I faked it and called the captain of my battalion and recommended me for a chapter 11 and I had no say. Yeah, it sucks, but if I would have med boarded I wouldn't have the chance I have now to make a career out of what I want. My hope is to be able to pick a medical AFSC. Any advice or information from experience would be greatly appreciated.

UPDATE: after a bit of a run around I was told by my recruiter that my discharge was for pregnancy?! Which I most certainly was not. They're also saying in addition to supposedly being pregnant I had some kind of injury which they told me as I was being discharged that I had no injuries. So now I've been trying to get ahold of doctors from 2012 in Oklahoma and since I don't live there anymore it's a ginormous headache. But nevertheless I am determined. I should have all my paperwork from the doctors by June 18th. And I will post another update when I know something new. Wish me luck!!!!!

Response by TSgt Melissa Post made Mar 6 at 2016 9:35 AM

TSgt Melissa Post — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:35:12 -0500

I know nothing about the whole re-enlistment area of this, but I did want to say that keep your chin up. I was in the DEP program for a year before getting a job to drop. Good luck!

Response by TSgt Melissa Post made Mar 6 at 2016 9:36 AM

TSgt Melissa Post — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:36:39 -0500

May I also ask, where is you recruiter located? My boyfriend lives in Eufaula and said something about the nearest one being 3 hours away.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Mar 6 at 2016 9:42 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:42:05 -0500

I only mention this in the event you might not know of it since you want something medical if you might want to try for nursing for a bachelors level RN look at the USPHS commissions corps they might have differing rules the USUHS med school for the services in Bethesda I'd heard had nursing programs now though I know little about how they work you might have to do the RM or nurse prsctioner NP or do a PA Zara a civilian school USPHS has a little known functional equiv of ROTC called junior and senior COSTEP ask about it for possible funding if you might care to you might try for ROTC in an RN or PA program also just a thought of course

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2016 9:55 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 09:55:37 -0500

SPC Private RallyPoint Member When you are faced with a Chapter 11 Failure to adapt discharge coded RE 3 "Individuals who are not qualified for continued Army service, but the disqualification is waiverable. Ineligible for enlistment unless a waiver is granted." The Guard is title 32 and has much less trouble obtaining a waiver (which you will require) for enlistment. Complete your AIT, drill a couple of times with the unit, then go to an active duty recruiter and apply to transfer to active duty. These things are important: full compliance with weight control policy, 50 or higher on ASVAB: spotless civilian police record. Be sure to pick an MOS or AF skill you like because you will likely be stuck with it. This will take some time but it will give you a chance to redeem yourself.
What was the outcome of your knee injury? These don't go away and if it exists and is causing problems you'll need a waiver for this too.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2016 12:12 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 12:12:29 -0500

Look up the most current prior service business rules. That'll tell what jobs are available. If you didn't make Six months in the army you aren't considered prior service. You are non-glossary prior service and for all intents and purposes treated as you had never served. If the knee was really broken, you should have documentation, hopefully that went up with the waiver. Otherwise your fate is in the hands of gods.
Either way, good luck. I spent two years trying to get in and ended up in the reserves, to later make the jump to active duty.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made Mar 6 at 2016 12:20 PM

Capt Tom Brown — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 12:20:16 -0500

Sounds like you have gotten a lot of very good suggestions and ideas on how to proceed through the re-entry process required for your particular situation. Overall a very daunting task for anyone. Hopefully your determination and strong desire to get back in will prevail over any frustrations at all the apparent hoops of fire set up to pass through. Best wishes to you and pls post feedback update(s) on the outcome of yr efforts.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Mar 6 at 2016 12:58 PM

PFC Tuan Trang — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 12:58:02 -0500

It better to sit down and talk with your local recruiter.

Response by SMSgt David A Asbury made Mar 6 at 2016 4:48 PM

SMSgt David A Asbury — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 16:48:49 -0500

As a former Air Force Recruiter, I never allow to process a prior service with a RE-3 from any branch of the military, including Air Force. I was a recruiter from 1982-1985. At that time we were only taking the cream of the cream of the crop. I had maybe only one or too waivers approved my whole recruiting career. If all of your paperwork is in your package and it has been sent to the recruiting Squadron Commander, you should know in a few days if the waiver is approved. Then it should go to the Group Commander and that should only take a few weeks. I would ask my Recruiter to find out if it has been approved at these levels. When the Air Force gives to the Recruiting Command it's Fiscal year goals, it includes non prior service applicants and prior service applicants, Officer applicants, Medical, Lawyers, and so on. The goals are then broken down and given to the groups then to squadron. Prior services applicants are opened until the Air Force meets it goal. Prior service goals can be shut off as early as a month into the year. I may be wrong but I do not see the Air Force treating you like a non prior when you have a DD-214. I would seek and obtain a complete copy of my medical records and try to meet a board to change my RE Code. Are you beening offer any disability from the Veterans Affairs?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2016 10:01 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Mar 2016 22:01:03 -0500

Re-3 usually means there is a two year wait until you can be comsidered to join or re-enlist again, and then it is with a waiver as the good SMSgt said below. Yeah, you'll have to do basic all over gain, but it's like you said, you'll know what to expect. Good luck to you.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2016 8:44 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 08:44:12 -0400

RE-3 is not a bad code. It is not a good but not bad and not the end of the road. Had you gotten an RE-4, that would have been a whole other story.
Chapter 11 means you didn't finish Basic, you left as entry level; no big thing.
First, go to your personal doctor and get your knees examined, and have the clearance provided to the MEPS' doctor, who will do a complete physical. second, look at the paperwork and just answer the reason in it: I was young, weak, and made a mistake. I am older, smarter and tougher.
Wait... everything with the government takes forever.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2016 1:13 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 13:13:26 -0400

UPDATE: after a bit of a run around I was told by my recruiter that my discharge was for pregnancy?! Which I most certainly was not. They're also saying in addition to supposedly being pregnant I had some kind of injury which they told me as I was being discharged that I had no injuries. So now I've been trying to get ahold of doctors from 2012 in Oklahoma and since I don't live there anymore it's a ginormous headache. But nevertheless I am determined. I should have all my paperwork from the doctors by June 18th. And I will post another update when I know something new. Wish me luck!!!!!

Response by SN Kevin Neff made Jul 29 at 2016 5:47 AM

SN Kevin Neff — Fri, 29 Jul 2016 05:47:53 -0400

Any update? I'm trying to do the same thing.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2017 1:23 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 13 May 2017 13:23:33 -0400

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Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2017 11:15 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 23:15:44 -0400

If I did 5.5 years and received a re3 code for failure to complete alcohol and drug rehab and got a honorable and it's been 3 years since I've been separated what's the chances of me getting a wavier with the national guard in Kansas I've been deployed. Since I've been separated I've completed a 2 year trade school got married and have a kid now

Response by Ilianna Perez made Dec 28 at 2017 9:57 PM

Ilianna Perez — Thu, 28 Dec 2017 21:57:20 -0500

I was discharged about 9 months ago with a chapter 5-11 and a RE 3 code. What are my chances of re enlistment?

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 27 at 2018 8:37 AM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Feb 2018 08:37:37 -0500

Hi I'm stationed at Ft. Sam Houston in AIT, unfortunately I failed a second exam and they've decided not to recycle me but re class me. My scores were I don't understand why Im not being recycled and now my choices are chp 11, or reclassify into a field other than medical. I need some advice.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 12 at 2018 1:45 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:45:57 -0400

You have a 100% better chance by submitting than if you hadn't. 0 chance otherwise.

Response by Brad Powers made Sep 22 at 2018 7:38 PM

Brad Powers — Sat, 22 Sep 2018 19:38:49 -0400

Does anybody know what glossary prior means exactly.

Response by Nieves Materne made Feb 12 at 2019 8:04 AM

Nieves Materne — Tue, 12 Feb 2019 08:04:55 -0500

Were you able to reenlist with the air force?

Response by Brad Powers made Feb 18 at 2019 2:35 PM

Brad Powers — Mon, 18 Feb 2019 14:35:10 -0500

Madayln Pruett, I am wondering if you have have heard the term ''glossary prior". I'm not sure so don't quote me but I think that is what you would be considered as.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2019 12:44 AM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Oct 2019 00:44:39 -0400

Did you ever get to re-enlist ?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2019 1:53 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 13:53:09 -0500

Jesus this hurt my head. This isn’t how this works. All tests done are linked to your DOD ID #. This post has full of shit written all over it

Response by Dennis Furrenes made Sep 14 at 2020 7:14 PM

Dennis Furrenes — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 19:14:58 -0400

How long does an re code 3 waiver take been waiting almost a year I was a stupid 18 year old that enlisted right out of high school quit now its been 5 years I really do regret my decision everyone at the Navy recruiting center knows just wondering how much longer I want to say fuck it because its been almost a whole year but the urge to serve I wont quit idk what to do