Can you wear the Holland 4 Day March ribbon in your DA Photo?

2019-03-09T22:04:37-05:00

If it states in Appendix E that it will not be added to EMILPO, you only have proof through the memorandum for wear on your IPERMS. Is it technically not authorized for wear on your DA Photo? Just looking for clarification.

I have looked and look at how to wear this thing and this is the conclusion I have come to:

The award that is given is considered a "Cross" or "Medal".

g. Foreign decorations. Personnel who are specifically authorized by law to accept decorations from foreign governments may wear them in the order of their receipt after all U.S. decorations, the Good Conduct Medal, campaign and
service medals, and service and training ribbons. (See AR 600–8–22 for application procedures to request authorization to
accept and wear foreign decorations.) Personnel may not wear any foreign decorations on the uniform unless at least one
U.S. decoration or service medal is worn at the same time. Personnel will not wear foreign awards that do not conform to
the standard U.S.-sized ribbon bar or medal.

For those that were awarded the Holland 4 Days Cross Marches Nijmegen Ribbon. They have a regular sized one now for your ribbon rack.

https://www.usamilitarymedals.com/products/holland-4-days-cross-marches-nijmegen-ribbon

Holland 4 Days Cross Marches Nijmegen Ribbon

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2019 10:34 PM

2019-03-09T22:34:57-05:00

Note 1, Tanle E-1
1 Honorary. Unless otherwise specified, this award may only be accepted and retained; not allowed for wear on the U.S. Army uniform. Many decorations
may or may not be authorized for wear and are only honorary. Accompanying documents must be read very carefully.
2 Medal of the Order of Merit, Cross of the Order of Merit, Officer’s Cross of the Order of Merit, Commander’s Cross, Knight Commander’s Cross, Grand
Cross 2d Class, Grand Cross 1st Class, and Grand Cross Special Class.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 10 at 2019 8:08 AM

2019-03-10T08:08:50-04:00

It is not a recognized medal for the US. It is something for your I-Love me room when you retire. It is a very good achievement depicting strength and stamina. Thank you for your service.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2019 11:37 AM

2019-03-10T11:37:37-04:00

In a DA photo you wear "all permanent awards".
That is any award recognized by the Army.
Not every foreign award makes it onto an ERB, the ERB is just a "Brief", it's right there in the name.
Every permanent award in your AMHRR (iPERMS) is a permanent award that should be in your DA photo.
If you have the cert signed by the host nation and the memo approved by HRC in your iPERMS, then it goes on your rack for the DA Photo.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2019 11:50 AM

2019-03-10T11:50:13-04:00

Unfortunately, the best source for information about foreign military awards is not the version of AR 600-8-22 posted to the Army Publication Directorate. Nor even the url listed in that same regulation. As of today (20190310), the most authoritative source of information is here on The Adjutant General Directorate's portion of the HRC portal: https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Foreign%20Award%20Info

Not all of the links on that page work either, but it does include updated Appendices D and E, updated as of 27 February 2019. Based on the layout of Appendix E, and the lack of any restriction next to it, I would be comfortable wearing the Holland Four Day March Ribbon as long as it had been awarded in accordance with the instructions for awarding a foreign decorations in Chapter 9 of AR 600-8-22.

AR 640-30 covers DA Photographs. And while it warns that the sample images in it are not to be used as guidance for how to wear the uniform (it defers to AR 670-1), at least one of the sample Soldiers does appear to be wearing a foreign decoration. Also, the word 'foreign' does not yield any search results and based on a quick scan of the text, it doesn't seem to specify anything restricting the wear of authorized foreign decorations.

AR 670-1 also does not specify any restrictions for official photographs (to include DA photos). In DA Pam 670-1, there are several items listed as not authorized for official photographs:
1) Infantry shoulder cord - 19-30.a(2)
2) Temporary unit awards - 20-5.b, 20-10.c, and Table 20-1
3) Gold Star lapel button - 20-6.c
4) Next of kin lapel button - 20-6.d
5) Temporary badges - 20-17.b

I couldn't find any sources that indicated a reason not to wear a permanently-awarded foreign decoration authorized for wear on the uniform, for a DA photo.

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Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 11 at 2019 9:22 PM

2019-03-11T21:22:45-04:00

I can find anything pertaining to this ribbon/medal. I completed the march in 2009 but never wore it. I know 600-8-22 now has it for acceptance and wear. I know I can only wear one foreign decoration at a time so I’m assuming I won’t be able to wear foreign wings or my German Schützenschnur or is it like the NATO ribbon equivalent mean you can wear a foreign badge with it. Do you have any insight on this?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2019 2:15 AM

2019-06-23T02:15:54-04:00

You can wear the ribbon in your rack, if you purchase the US regulation sized version of it. Vanguard might have it as the Dutch Cross.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made May 3 at 2021 8:45 PM

2021-05-03T20:45:04-04:00

Okay nay saying chuckleheads, when you get through with your updated hooked on phonics for Army Regs:
A. Notice the lack of restrictions
B. Look Closley there are two awards issued by the Dutch. The Standard 4 days March aka the civilian version. and a few lines down is "Netherlands Armed Forces Marching Cross." Most of us who marched as a unit would qualify for the latter. If you went on your own, then most likely you would get the civilian award. I was station and worked with a Dutch Field Artillery unit. We got the Military Medal.