Can you get leave denied for being flagged for PT test failure & HT/ WT tap failure?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:17:37 -0400

Response by CW3 Michael Bodnar made Oct 18 at 2018 6:44 PM

CW3 Michael Bodnar — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 18:44:41 -0400

Yes you can. If you failed either one of those things, fix it. Remember, leave and liberty is a privilege, not a right.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Oct 18 at 2018 7:06 PM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 19:06:14 -0400

Yes.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Oct 18 at 2018 9:44 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:44:43 -0400

Aflag means no personnel actions, promotions, reclass, re-enlist, leave, etc.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2018 12:21 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 00:21:36 -0400

You’re leave can be denied because your Commander said so, but failing APFT and Body Fat are almost always denied. Only time I’ve ever seen it approved was for Use or Lose and it wasn’t without a fight. Point is, meet the standard and you won’t have an issue in the future.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Oct 19 at 2018 1:38 AM

SSG Brian G. — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 01:38:12 -0400

Yes. A flag means that ANY positive actions are denied and that includes leave, even if you are maxed out on your leave days. You cannot go on leave, get promoted, go to any new schools that are not part of your enlistment contract, re-enlist, cross train, etc. Nothing, not until you get that flag lifted by your command.

Response by SFC Harry H. made Oct 19 at 2018 10:27 AM

SFC Harry H. — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 10:27:28 -0400

I’m pretty sure your commander or even PSG can deny what ever they want. PT failure is a good reason.

Response by SFC Dennis A. made Oct 19 at 2018 12:15 PM

SFC Dennis A. — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:15:50 -0400

You most certainly can.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2018 12:31 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 12:31:47 -0400

I was told I was flagged for it last month when I failed this month passed both pt and Ht/Wt. My ERB does not show that I am flagged in either my old ERB with my failed pt test and my updated one with my passing score. Also they have approved my leave prior but lost it. Now they are making it an issue regarding my supposed flag. I also read into both AR 600-8-2 and AR 600-8-10 regarding both flag regulations and leave and pass. Does not say anything about me not being able to take leave for being flagged for pt failure. Also regarding leave is defined as earned.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 19 at 2018 8:26 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:26:08 -0400

It's been a minute since I read regulations, but I'm pretty sure you can have leave denied over it. Granting leave is the discretion of your commander anyways, so if he wants, he can pull it.

Response by SFC Christopher Taggart made Oct 19 at 2018 8:40 PM

SFC Christopher Taggart — Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:40:01 -0400

Yep...read SGM Frazer's comment.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2018 6:32 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:32:23 -0400

A flag is an administrative indicator placed against your personnel file to determine your current duty status and eligibility for favorable actions. Leave in and of itself is earned monthly and though the approving of it for a given period can be denied to prevent a favorable action, normally it will be granted in this type of circumstances. The IG within your first GO level HQ in the chain of command should be able to provide you additional info. Additionally you are required to be counseled and provided a copy of your flag when it is put in place. Best COA is to pass your APFT.