Can you be forced to pay for an “inspectable item” out of your own pocket?

2024-06-23T23:30:03-04:00

So it was brought to my attention that my command team will be inspecting us for an item that I was never issued. When asked what I should do about the situation, my platoon leadership told me to “figure it out” and to “go buy what I’m missing”.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2024 12:40 AM

2024-06-24T00:40:30-04:00

SPC Private RallyPoint Member Did you sign for the missing item?

Response by Maj John Bell made Jun 24 at 2024 2:39 AM

2024-06-24T02:39:45-04:00

For what item are you being asked to pay?

Response by COL Randall C. made Jun 24 at 2024 7:35 AM

2024-06-24T07:35:54-04:00

The Army Values Card (AVC) and the Army Values Warrior Ethos (AVWE) dog tag are not individual supply items. They are Graphic Training Aids (GTA) that were produced by the Army and distributed through leadership channels to individual Soldiers.

Like all GTAs, they are available to order through the training support centers by your supply folks.

Personally, I'd be amazed if someone in the unit leadership didn't have dozens of them shoved in the back of a desk drawer somewhere (at least the ACV).

If for some strange reason your leadership can't help you, check with your company supply and orderly room, after that I'd hit up the S-3 (they could have filled a crate with the ones they had all over the place).

If you go to the Solder Support Center on base you can usually find them in the In/Out processing and Soldier Readiness areas (and many other locations as well).

Worst case - go to the Training Support Center on base (for Fort Campbell, that should be just up the road from the DSSB off of Screaming Eagle Boulevard) where they are warehoused and see if they will give you one without having to go through the paperwork drill of your unit ordering them.

Specifically, the item numbers are:
● GTA 22-06-004 for the AVC
● GTA 22-06-005 for the AVWE dog tag
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https://atiam.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/40C97494-572F-4D6E-8C5D-3A0EA427FB9B [login to see] 870/22-06-004/2206004_top.htm
https://atiam.train.army.mil/catalog/view/100.ATSC/E7D48179-A9C7-42B8-97C3-1FBB58B112CE [login to see] 398/22-06-005/2206005_top.htm

2206004_top.htm

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2024 9:56 AM

2024-06-24T09:56:32-04:00

Instead of taking the 5 seconds that's needed to say "We got you," instead they just took 5 seconds to serve up a side dish of worthless leadership.

Response by SGT Lorenzo Nieto made Jun 25 at 2024 7:20 AM

2024-06-25T07:20:08-04:00

Pretty soon they’ll make u buy your weapon,lol

Response by SGT Lorenzo Nieto made Jul 2 at 2024 6:55 AM

2024-07-02T06:55:25-04:00

Remember this THE GOVERNMENT IS NEVER WRONG.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 2 at 2024 12:21 PM

2024-07-02T12:21:49-04:00

What inspectable items don't you have?

I mean that was a shitty response though.