Can you attend phase 2 alc before phase 1?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:49:55 -0400

I have been slotted for phase 2 and 3 and 1 but 2 and 3 are before phase 1. Does this affect me at all?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 22 at 2016 9:53 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:53:55 -0400

What's your MOS and it should be all residential unless some are online.

Response by SSG David McPherson made Jul 22 at 2016 9:55 PM

SSG David McPherson — Fri, 22 Jul 2016 21:55:55 -0400

Phase 1 is online and phase 2 and 3 are residential

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2016 7:45 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 07:45:54 -0400

There are no more phases for ALC...you need SSD 2 which replaced Common Core to attend ALC..

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2016 8:50 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 08:50:48 -0400

CMF 68 ALC does have three phases, in addition to SSD. Phase 1 is a CMF-specific DL, phase 2 was a general CMF-68 resident phase, and phase 3 was an MOS-specific phase.

For AMEDD, phase 1 was supposed to be a prerequisite for phase 2 and 3. You are still able to attend phase 2 and 3, but if you do not have phase 1 DL completed by graduation, "failure to meet course standards" will be annotated on your 1059.

You really do not want to be in a position where you are having to complete the DL portion while you are at the resident phase, or risk getting a "failure to meet course standards" 1059.

I would recommend that you contact the NCOA and try to get into phase 1. The contact number for AMEDD NCOA DL Ops is [login to see] .

Response by SGT Sam Decker made Jul 23 at 2016 8:54 AM

SGT Sam Decker — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 08:54:14 -0400

The Phase I Common Core (aka SSD 2) must be completed prior to your arrival for Phases II & III. If it is not complete, it is at the discretion of the cadre at the NCO Academy whether or not you are allowed an extension to complete it. They might or they might send you back.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2016 9:28 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:28:36 -0400

I attended phase 2 and started phase 1 while I was currently in phase 2. Basically I was doing both at the same time. Phase 2 during the day in class and phase 1 in the evenings in my hotel room.

Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Jul 23 at 2016 1:05 PM

SGT Tony Clifford — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:05:08 -0400

I did. We had a special arrangement with the NCO academy in Missouri. They came to JBLM for our battalion and everyone who had already completed pldc got to do phase 2 ALC for 12B. They didn't care if you had done phase 1. Additionally phase 1 is basic leadership training, phase 2 is job specific.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2016 11:48 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Jul 2016 23:48:44 -0400

When I attended ALC, you could do the phase one (not SSD2) after you did phase 2&3. The commandant at the NCOA on Fort Sam is changing that. Your GPA from phase one distance learning will soon count towards your overall GPA.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2016 11:08 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 02 Aug 2016 23:08:27 -0400

I'm currently attending Phase 3 of 68W ALC and there are several NCO's here who still need to complete Phase 1.

We were told that they are doing it out of order to help reduce the backlog for Phase 2/3. Since Phase 1 is DL and can be done at home station it can help speed up the process of NCO's completing the residential portion.

However, you still won't be eligible for promotion until ALL 3 phases are completed.