Can some ribbon racks be over the top, or is more always better?

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:29:48 -0500

Barksdale just got a new Command Chief for the Bomb Wing a few months ago.

I have to say, I have never see a rack this large on a non-AFSOC type guy and even then, I think he has them topped.

My first reaction was "holy ribbon rack batman!!"

Response by SGT Richard H. made Nov 8 at 2014 1:39 PM

SGT Richard H. — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:39:05 -0500

It looks like he's been in more than one service. If I'm not mistaken, I think I see some Army ribbons in there....an ARCOM and a 2nd award AAM, at least.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 1:44 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:44:31 -0500

That's not a ribbon rack, that's a billboard.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Nov 8 at 2014 1:45 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:45:02 -0500

For any item, the more of it you have the less each instance of it is valuable. No doubt the Corps' SEL is (deservedly) heavily stacked as well, but he doesn't look quite as catoonish, does he?

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Nov 8 at 2014 1:50 PM

SrA Daniel Hunter — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:50:52 -0500

2000-2010 He was assigned to a SOC Command, Duke Field and Ft Bragg.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 2:13 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:13:52 -0500

So did he have the rack custom made or is it two racks carefully placed together?

It would suck to get a new middle-presidence ribbon to have to add to that fruit salad. Besides trying to find an even larger rack, it would take an hour just to shift everything.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 2:13 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:13:53 -0500

That is quite the ribbon rack, TSgt Joshua Copeland! I count 39 ribbons. Wow!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 2:40 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:40:19 -0500

Here's what I have after almost 9 years. I don't think I will be anywhere near this. In my career field SNCOs rarely get more than 5 rows.

http://www.uniformribbons.com/tmp/? [login to see] .70298.uniformribbons.com.png

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Nov 8 at 2014 2:45 PM

CSM Michael J. Uhlig — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 14:45:58 -0500

damn good thing we salute with the right hand...!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 3:07 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 15:07:46 -0500

Thats insane... lol

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 3:29 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 15:29:42 -0500

Must have been an ACC PJ. It would be interesting to know what the DFC was for.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 4:40 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:40:06 -0500

Impressive. But I'll stick with my 3-bar set and my lowest hanging fruit.....

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 8 at 2014 4:49 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:49:10 -0500

In the spirit of camaraderie and levity, I present to you one of the greatest examples of "over- awarding". Sorry, there are a couple of colorful metaphors in here. In no way, shape, or form, am I trying to take away from the accomplishments of any images posted on here. Enjoy.

http://youtu.be/JpgPD5M9AJs

Im Gonna Git You Sucka Medals

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 5:25 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 17:25:35 -0500

HOLY FRUIT SALAD Batman!!!! I count 42 awards on his chest...not counting the 2 badges

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Nov 8 at 2014 8:25 PM

CMSgt James Nolan — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:25:02 -0500

It would appear that the Command Chief has not only been there and got the T-shirt, he has been EVERYWHERE and got all the T-shirts!

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Nov 8 at 2014 8:24 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:24:26 -0500

As long as everything is earned and worn properly, that is all that matters. I am not casting any doubt of the integrity of the NCO depicted. Never met him, have no idea on his story.

Response by CW4 Scott Kjendlie made Nov 8 at 2014 9:08 PM

CW4 Scott Kjendlie — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:08:30 -0500

Well, as long as he has earned every one of them, so be it. Who are we to judge?

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Nov 8 at 2014 9:18 PM

SPC(P) Jay Heenan — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:18:43 -0500

If you earn it, wear it. Period. Now if you want to talk about 'earning it', that is a whole different topic.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Nov 8 at 2014 9:30 PM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:30:30 -0500

Humm...someone changed the title to something a bit more inflammatory than my original one of "ribbon racks"

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 11:01 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:01:27 -0500

I count 38 and it looks like he could of stacked them 4 across all the way to the top, but instead made it look taller by his set up. 38 ribbons and two badge...I wish I could see this guy's bio .

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 11:14 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:14:44 -0500

Okay, I guess he is a bad___! I'm impressed.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2014 11:33 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:33:57 -0500

What a rock star!! I've only seen Army and Marine GO/FOs and SEL have racks of that size!!

Response by SSG Genaro Negrete made Nov 9 at 2014 12:31 AM

SSG Genaro Negrete — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 00:31:41 -0500

General Dempsey varies from his sizable stack, to just his top six. What do you all think?

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2014 8:17 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 08:17:04 -0500

Don't understand the point of this post, quite frankly. Are we questioning his eligibility to wear the awards? If not, he is wearing what the Airforce orders him to wear because he earned it. How is it over the top? Lastly, posting a pic of the Command Chief MSgt and discussing his awards in an open forum like this isn't the best idea in the world!

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Nov 10 at 2014 1:12 PM

SSG Robert Burns — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:12:57 -0500

Im looking and see that the bronze star is his second highest. I didn't realize there were so many medals subordinate to that. He must have about 3 services represented there.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Nov 10 at 2014 1:22 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:22:00 -0500

Maybe he is just trying to keep up with these guys from North Korea.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 6:35 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:35:07 -0500

As we all talk about "Smaller ribbon racks," we also need to remember AFI 36-1408:

"All ribbons and devices will be worn on the men’s service dress uniform." (Paragraph 4.9.1.3.3)

Most days I have to wear Service Dress, I'd probably wear only "Decorations" and "Unit Awards" vice "Service Medals and Ribbons." But, the AFI does not permit that option. His "Decorations" alone would outweigh most Air Force ribbon racks.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2014 8:32 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 10 Nov 2014 20:32:28 -0500

He started as cop, then crosstrained to C-130 Loadmaster and found himself in AFSOC, USSOCOM, and the contingency response community. He's got forward deployments from his forward-deployed forward deployments.

Response by CW4 William Van Almsick made Nov 11 at 2014 10:58 AM

CW4 William Van Almsick — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 10:58:51 -0500

This is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario.

I think that most military personnel just show up, get the job done, and move on to the next task. They would rather have a nice pat-on-the-back and a great write-up on the annual eval from their Commander instead of getting an award.

But, in order to get promoted, they need awards and ribbons to impress the promotion board.

And the regs state that you have to display all of your awards.

What's a guy or gal to do???

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2014 7:28 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:28:41 -0500

After the awards the rest is just where you were able to go and during what time period. I mean really National Defense, GWOTSM, AFRM with mobilization device, NATO ribbons, etc. You earned as you showed up for the bus or plane. It is more about experiences to me than about having to go to the store to find ribbons and trying to find a rack that I can use to fit the ribbons on it for my next photo.

Does it look ridiculous sometimes? Yes. But hey haters gonna hate.....and well there is regulations of how to wear them and not seem so crazy. And btw who smiles in these photos?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 12:49 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:49:06 -0500

HE EARNED EM; he wears them. Looks like a guy that kicked some serious ass as an airman.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 12:54 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 12:54:51 -0500

It's easy to find envy when you don't have what another has. It's easy to say "so what" when you have it. I've said the same about badges. But I remember as a young paratrooper looking at my 4 stacked Csm wanting to be that guy. I am proud of what I've got. I don't want more. But that's because I have plenty. If I take away from the meaning of it, what will the young guys think. So I've given into it and now I just smile. Say thanks. Act a little like a badass. Not coz I want to, but because I would've wanted that same cam to do it to pvt Ibarra back then.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Nov 12 at 2014 1:26 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 13:26:48 -0500

Wow ... But, hey, if he earned them, why not??

Since I have no clue what some of the Air Force ribbons stand for, I may be off base by recommending that he might want to consider wearing only awards presented to him personally (i.e., Bronze Star, Defense Meritorious Service Medal, etc.) and not the "unit awards" some have talked about in earlier posts. But, like I said, if he earned them (and I am not saying that he did not), he certainly has the right to wear them, even if they look awkward and makes him look like a poser.

I am sure many of you have experienced situations where folks (civilians, usually) see you in uniform and ask about your awards and decorations by asking "What is that one for", etc. My dad said that he used to answer that by pointing at the highest award he had and saying "I got this one by mistake and got all the rest for getting it". Although I have been tempted to do that a few times, I never did. :-)

Bottom line, right on Command Chief. Impressive...

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 2:56 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:56:17 -0500

Looks like they had to photo shop out the guy that was holding the rest of his medals.

Response by Sgt Nick Marshall made Nov 12 at 2014 2:56 PM

Sgt Nick Marshall — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 14:56:35 -0500

My understanding is that some branches receive awards for things accomplished that other branches do not. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Response by SGT(P) Harry Clyde Jr. made Nov 12 at 2014 6:38 PM

SGT(P) Harry Clyde Jr. — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:38:59 -0500

I dont remember how many I have since I have not looked at my uniform in ages/ retirement. Was never big on awards. The Army as of the last few years have been handing them out like candy. Before desert storm it was rare to see a lot of ribbons. You had to do something exceptional just to get an AAM.
I dont believe in PCS awards. You did your job the last 4 years have an award. NONSENSE! You retired heres an MSM for what you did or did not. Again nonsense. Especially if you didn't earn one while active. Spec ops have their own requirements and due to their missions I can understand it.
The air force on the other hand exceeds excess and flair. My brother is a Major select C17 pilot currently in Nevada flying drones. And he has a rack almost as big as mine with about 12 years in both enlisted and officer. Not to pick on the Air force but really. You showed up on time for a month, heres an award, urinated in the toilet with no spillage heres an award. Learned to put batteries in the remote heres another riibbon. You get my point. I work with The Marines.You look at their racks theres not much there. You have to do something exceptional to get navy achivement and really exceptional for a Navcom. No bronze star for merit just cause you were in combat theater.
Some Marine NCOs have no awards. But they are still exeptional Marines especially since they were chosen to be instructors.
And just because you have a rack doesnt mean you are great at your actual job. Ive seen soldiers write their own awards up embellishing themselves for what they may or may not have done. It gets reviewed by the person who was supposed to do the write up up to the BN command and wala an aam.
Awards should be given for exceptional work and actions not the status quo, tradition or just being there.
My 2 bits.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2014 9:13 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:13:20 -0500

Hey this man earned every one. Wear them proud and keep that cheat puffed out!!

Response by SFC James Barnes made Nov 13 at 2014 10:20 AM

SFC James Barnes — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 10:20:51 -0500

Wow I don't even have words to explain the amount shock that rack gives.

Response by Sgt Tyson Zellaha made Nov 13 at 2014 11:26 AM

Sgt Tyson Zellaha — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:26:00 -0500

Most of the branches have a bunch of BS medals and what not ..oh you participated in a field day here's a ribbon.. Oh you didn't go on any deployments here take a good effort ribbon .. Oh you went on a field op .. That's cute here's a ribbon for that... It takes away the point and pride of wearing those medals and ribbons.. More medals and ribbons does not necessarily mean they have done more ..a lot of Combat units in the Marines don't give out pussy fart awards and when you see what they have earned you can decifer what they are and more times than not there awards are from completing tours and putting there lives on the line instead of getting BS for sitting in the rear with the gear

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 12:33 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:33:55 -0500

When we get to the point of looking like an Italian Private or a South American Dictator, discretion should be a better point of valor. No need to wear them all, all of the time. I know someone will say "it's required" or "it's authorized", "but he earned them". Ok. If you want to send a message, wear the top three rows. Start a trend for the option--some GOs do that.

Response by Cpl Gregory Hajder made Nov 13 at 2014 3:04 PM

Cpl Gregory Hajder — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:04:09 -0500

I have always notice the difference in ribbon disbursment between the different branches of service. i.e. the Marines tend to have less sevice ribbons than that of the Air Force. The Air Force has a ribbon for everything. Knowing which side the fork and the knife go on. Which direction the toilet paper should face. One for passing the shower test ''lather,rinse,repeat". They are pretty ridiculous. By the way, How manny stripes and knick Knacks can you fit on one sleeve?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 3:04 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:04:37 -0500

38?? Is that 38??

Response by SSG Jeffrey Spencer made Nov 13 at 2014 3:04 PM

SSG Jeffrey Spencer — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:04:32 -0500

If you earn them, you get to wear them.

Problem is not all earning is weighted the same. See the discussions on Awards being political, or based on Rank, Race and Gender.

Response by CMSgt Mark Lewis made Nov 13 at 2014 3:38 PM

CMSgt Mark Lewis — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 15:38:19 -0500

I have always been a proponent that personnel should wear the medals and ribbons they earned - proudly. My first supervisors (1980's) used to say "if you earned them then wear them." Those old-timers also used to say enlisted wear their stripes on the sleeves and officers wear their rank on their collar or epaulets."

For those that say we should have stripes on our sleeves for years of service like the other services I disagree. We are the Air Force and corporately have decided to wear a ribbon denoting our years of service. I know the Air Force was at one time the Army Air Corps, but we are no longer, nor have we been since 1947. The Air Force, like each of the other services, has tried to develop its own image to include uniforms, traditions, etc.

Look at the medals, ribbons, and badges worn by members of the other services. Some are the same, yet some are very distinct and different, and I bet if you asked them to change to the way they do it then they too would be against it.

Response by CMSgt Mark Lewis made Nov 13 at 2014 4:14 PM

CMSgt Mark Lewis — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 16:14:36 -0500

For those of you suggesting he only wear personal decorations, you are suggesting he violate the Air Force uniform standards. For that particular uniform he is required by Air Force Instruction to wear "all ribbons and devices." If he were only wearing his blue service uniform, shirt without the dress jacket, then he has the option to wear "all or no ribbons and devices..."

Again, each service has it's own uniform regulations so before you make recommendations you may want to research and know what personnel may or may not do regarding things.

Response by MCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2014 7:43 PM

MCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 19:43:41 -0500

{EDITED TO ADD: I won't remove this, as it's already "public record" - but, PLEASE read the responses before anyone gets irate!! I screwed up!!}

I do have one question, though. His highest award is the Silver Star... which can ONLY be awarded for Valor. Therefore, it is NOT supposed to have a "V" device on it. Why is he wearing one on his ribbon?

http://www.afpc.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=7729

Factsheets : Silver Star

Response by AN Anthony Burnett made Nov 13 at 2014 10:38 PM

AN Anthony Burnett — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:38:52 -0500

Is he wearing "Command Pilot wings", I noticed some Army awards,prior service maybe, but I think you can only wear 21 ribbons, you can add devices to the ribbons or is it 21 of the most important ones such as the CMH,
Silver Star and the likes, oh well what can we do maybe I'm right but most of the time I am wrong.

Response by TSgt Andrew Brice made Nov 13 at 2014 11:41 PM

TSgt Andrew Brice — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:41:37 -0500

Is the issue that the Command Chief has so many ribbons? Or is the problem the AF policy that you have to wear ALL your ribbons? I'm sure that thing gets in the way....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2014 2:16 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:16:29 -0500

I wonder if he has ever had to say "hey, my eyes are up here!"?

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2014 4:16 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 04:16:54 -0500

If you signed up to chase ribbons, you made a poor decision. In my opinion, The success of one's career is measured by one simple question: Have you served with integrity and honor?

Response by SrA Kevin Adams made Nov 15 at 2014 12:45 PM

SrA Kevin Adams — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 12:45:16 -0500

I was lucky enough to know CMSgt. Mazzone when he was a cross trainee loadmaster at Pope Afb. He was a new SSgt. that came over from Security Forces, he is a good guy and deserving of every achievement he has earned.

Response by CCMSgt Raymond F. (Ray) Allen III made Nov 15 at 2014 4:22 PM

CCMSgt Raymond F. (Ray) Allen III — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:22:03 -0500

Once upon a time one could wear "all, some or none" when it came to ribbons. Not sure what the AFI says now but, if they are earned then by all means wear them proudly...

Response by PO1 Rick Serviss made Nov 15 at 2014 4:23 PM

PO1 Rick Serviss — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 16:23:25 -0500

They have to weigh at least 5 pounds. I didn't know Air Force uniforms could hold that much weight.

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2014 8:38 PM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 20:38:07 -0500

I believe the AF needs to return to the 'all, some or none' days...

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Nov 15 at 2014 9:26 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:26:06 -0500

Well, the AF does tend to give out ribbons for just about everything.... ;o)

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2014 11:14 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:14:30 -0500

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2014 5:24 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:24:14 -0500

Bad ass! Doesn't make him great, but it's nice. Bet he is a bad ass too. I've commented on this post already, but I keep seeing this guys resume and its impressive.

Response by Maj Dennis Dumale made Nov 16 at 2014 6:04 PM

Maj Dennis Dumale — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 18:04:28 -0500

I don't question he earned them all. My comment is institutional oriented. It might be time for us (AF) to do away with awards that are, you know, common sense. Let's say, basic training - while certainly a psychological boost to a basic trainee let's face it…we all have to go through it to earn the uniform. How about good conduct (I think we ditched that one didn't we?)…I mean a medal for doing something you should've been doing anyway? PME - uh, kinda mandatory to make rank. That should be in your records not on your chest. Makes sense to me.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2014 7:04 PM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 16 Nov 2014 19:04:50 -0500

The more fruit salad I see the more suspicious I am of the person wearing it

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2014 5:37 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 05:37:47 -0500

He had been in AFSOC or some type of CRG his whole career. He has been there and done that as stated by another individual. Sorry you guys have to hate that a 24 year chief has more ribbons than you will ever recieve.

Note the Distinguished flying cross with a "V" as well as the Bronze star.

What do they say? "Haters gonna hate"

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2014 10:28 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 10:28:19 -0500

Even with all the joking (including by myself), that's an impressive collection of ribbons. Thanks for sharing it, TSgt Joshua Copeland.

Response by CSM Tony Bowen made Nov 17 at 2014 3:24 PM

CSM Tony Bowen — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:24:59 -0500

I say to each his own. I never wore all my ribbons, not even my Retirement Ceremony. Was never much for awards in the first place. It gave me more joy to pin one on or stand next to the Commander as he did. One of my Commanders once told me he never saw anyone that get's more excited over performing an Award or Promotion Ceremony. Just love my Soldiers Sir and love even more seeing them get what's rightfully due them.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2014 3:32 PM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:32:03 -0500

I know this dude...former AFSOCer. Worked with him for over a year, he was my CCM and I was his MSG Group Sup. Extremely modest and a total rockstar...earned every one of 'em.

BTW, for you non-AF folks. AFI 36-2903 (Dress and Appearance) states that ALL earned ribbons MUST be worn...no option to pick and choose what "fruit salad" you want to wear.

Response by PO1 Jim Christensen made Nov 17 at 2014 4:05 PM

PO1 Jim Christensen — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:05:04 -0500

Holly Cow, looking at his typing ribbon and the superior paper work ribbon. This guy has been there (the office) and done it all (filed reports).
To be fair, I am sure his has done a lot but I have seen Vietnam Combat Vets with fewer ribbon.

Response by Capt Al Parker made Nov 17 at 2014 4:25 PM

Capt Al Parker — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 16:25:37 -0500

Is this the photo of a "YES" man?

Response by Maj Brad Smith made Nov 17 at 2014 5:41 PM

Maj Brad Smith — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 17:41:20 -0500

If you earn them, wear them. although he may have to get a badge that says "see other side" if he gets anymore

Response by MSgt Lonny Zuniga made Nov 17 at 2014 6:15 PM

MSgt Lonny Zuniga — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:15:39 -0500

I have served under Chief Mazzone. Trust me........he has been there and done that, and all of those I can promise are authorized. While I agree that it looks silly to the point of cartoonish and also comes off as egotistic...... currently there is no choice as to how you wear them. I only had 27 when I retired and didn't like wearing them all either.

Response by SFC Roberto Garza Jr. made Nov 17 at 2014 6:45 PM

SFC Roberto Garza Jr. — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:45:21 -0500

The Command Chief has obviously had a long career and earned many awards and as stated in other posts the Air Force does have a ribbon for every thing. I don't see it as a problem. I see the fact that it's being discussed the problem, I do hope he is aware that he is the subject of a post and that he was informed.

Response by Lt Col Jamie Laird made Nov 17 at 2014 7:48 PM

Lt Col Jamie Laird — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:48:33 -0500

That's because he was in AFSOC! And I hope you're not questioning his integrity because he's one of the finest men I had the privilege to serve with.

Response by MSG Greg Kelly made Nov 17 at 2014 8:27 PM

MSG Greg Kelly — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:27:52 -0500

yea that shits over the top maybe he should drop the bottom 4 rows

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2014 10:14 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:14:45 -0500

Command Chief Master Sergeant Mazzone was an outstanding Command Chief while he served his time at MacDill AFB prior to PCSing to his new assignment in Barksdale. Just because he has a large ribbon rack doesn't mean you question its legitimacy, especially when someone has been a Command Chief at two installations now and has done nothing but make Airmans QoL better. Check on his bio and read how much of a bad ass he is before you judge a book by its cover, which is clearly what is going on.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 12:41 AM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 00:41:25 -0500

I had the honor of serving with him in the 8th SOS, and can undoubtedly say he earned em...

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 2:27 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 02:27:15 -0500

Compared to the other branches, like Army, the Air Force doesn't have much in the way or decorations. Army dress uniforms have ribbons on both sides, marksmanship medals, patches, buttons, ropes, epaulet pins, collar pins, hash marks... Air force has ribbons, qualification badges, and U.S. pins... that's pretty much it

Response by PO1 John Pokrzywa made Nov 18 at 2014 4:55 AM

PO1 John Pokrzywa — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 04:55:46 -0500

Can you imagine that poor guy if he had to buy replacements? And let's not even get into full dress with medals...
Makes it understandable why some would only choose to wear top three (allowable in some situations, at least in the Navy... AF may be different)

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 6:01 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 06:01:00 -0500

In my opinion, it looks photo shopped.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 1:08 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 13:08:19 -0500

disregard this post as I made a sarcastic comment to original poster before reading ALL threads.
my apologies

I have known Chief Mazzone for over 15 years. He is a hell of an Airman.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 2:10 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:10:01 -0500

Doing some open source searching and from his bio i pulled this 'nugget' of info...
"The majority of his career has been spent in the special operations and contingency response communities." So everyone regardless of branch of service knows that SOF units go to alot of places and do a lot of thing, and are awarded accordingly to that mission.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 2:48 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 14:48:34 -0500

Read his Bio. I worked directly for Chief Mazzone for awhile when I was assigned to the CRW at Travis, and if you read his Bio that will explain his ribbon rack. He's actually a really humble and gracious guy...if you get an opportunity to interact with him, or pick his brain about his career, it will be worth your time. He's the best mentor I've had in my career.
"The majority of his career has been spent in the special operations and contingency response communities"- Directly from his Barksdale Bio.

Response by SSgt Jeremy Stephens made Nov 18 at 2014 4:08 PM

SSgt Jeremy Stephens — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:08:35 -0500

As some people pointed out, if the Air Force went back to service stripes, and moved unit decorations to the other side like all of the other services even deserving racks wouldn't look quite so unrealistic.

Honestly if Chief Mazzone was names a CMSgtAF I wouldn't be surprised.

He is a testament to "Excellence in all we do" Check out the following:

Basic Training Honor Graduate
Distinguished Graduate and Military Citizenship Award, Airman Leadership School
USAF General Robert “Dutch” Huyser Award
USAF Lance P. Sijan Leadership Award
Distinguished Graduate, Noncommissioned Officer’s Academy
USSOCOM SSgt Henry “Red” Erwin Award – Enlisted Aircrew Member of the Year
Joint Special Operations Command Air Force SNCO of the Year
Distinguished Graduate and Communications Excellence Award, USN Senior Enlisted Academy

He is consistently recognized in the top 10% or less of every PME class he has been in and won SNCO of the year awards in Joint commands that do include all types of special operators... As an E9 he is already in the company of only 1% of all enlisted, and he is clearly the cream of the crop in that group too, knowing what I have heard of him, as well as what is awards and decorations say about him.

Response by MSgt Ryan Tanner made Nov 18 at 2014 4:40 PM

MSgt Ryan Tanner — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:40:54 -0500

It stands to reason that being well hung is always better, however an individual's "Chest Resume" isn't always a good read on the person's capabilities or achievements. I know a lot of folks with huge ribbion racks that were lucky at best and walked over all their subordinates/kissed ass at worst. My motto is I didn't join the service to get ribbions I joined to "Serve"...

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 5:44 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:44:52 -0500

Seems to me that he isn't the guy we see below. If someone has earned their ribbons then they have every right to wear them. Yes, seeing someone wear this many ribbons is a bit unusual but not impossible. If you earn it then you could wear it. He's not CSM Davis...remember that.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2014 6:57 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:57:28 -0500

i personally think after a certain point it looks ridiculous. the photo above is one example. Once you get to a certain point you should take off some of the gimmie ribbons within regulations.

Response by SPC Kel Rowland made Nov 18 at 2014 8:18 PM

SPC Kel Rowland — Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:18:59 -0500

I have more than that guy, I had to have a special chef hat made so I could wear them around on Halloween...

Response by CMSgt Ray Theriault made Nov 19 at 2014 5:32 AM

CMSgt Ray Theriault — Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:32:29 -0500

If they're earned, then by all means. Non-AFSOC personnel perform outstandingly critical actions as well - it's a big military.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2014 1:35 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 19 Nov 2014 13:35:15 -0500

He earned the honor of wearing them, so he should be able wear them without anyone asking if it's "too much". Some career fields (normally combat focused ones) are positioned to receive more medals and decorations than others. Along with that, they have more than likely sacrificed more time away from their home and family than many have and deployed to places that weren't quite as nice as Balad, Bagram and Al Udeid. The question that should be asked is if too little is, well too little. By that I mean, if you're a 15 year E-6 with only 1 or 2 medals (or none as I have seen one or two of those), you may want to consider what you're not doing, because you're behind the curve on points.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made Nov 19 at 2014 6:45 PM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Wed, 19 Nov 2014 18:45:14 -0500

Good God! After 12 years of service, I didn't even have as many as his rows of 3!!! I count 42 ribbons with multiple devices. I am really sad I got out without that Antarctic Service Medal...that's the one I had my sights set on!

Response by Maj Stephen Parsons, PhD made Nov 20 at 2014 12:12 PM

Maj Stephen Parsons, PhD — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:12:38 -0500

When I was an E-1 we, my fellow Airmen & I, looked at our senior leaders with a great deal of respect. When it came time to put on our service dress we wanted to see ALL of their awards/ribbons. This generated conversations, "war stories" were shared and many times great mentoring moments emerged that I still rely on today. I assure you that young troops look to this Chief for guidance and leadership, he's been there done that (as documented by that rack) and they want to learn how from one of the best.

Response by SGT Robert Hawks made Nov 20 at 2014 12:24 PM

SGT Robert Hawks — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:24:15 -0500

If he earned them he should be able to wear them all with pride.

Response by SSgt B Mac made Nov 20 at 2014 12:30 PM

SSgt B Mac — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 12:30:20 -0500

As long as they were earned I don't care. A shame someone taking pride in their achievements would be ridiculed like this. Less than 1% of the service ever reach E-9. Way to go Chief!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2014 6:25 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 18:25:02 -0500

This Command Chief has also clearly spent some time in a joint environment as he is wearing an Army Achievement and Army Commendation Medals.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2014 9:51 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Nov 2014 21:51:40 -0500

This shows your achievements and accomplishments as an individual and team member. Now Certain Ones, are the ones, you as an individual are the proudest of, however, we cannot choose which ones to keep.

Response by PO3 Brendan "Smitty" Smith made Nov 22 at 2014 4:57 PM

PO3 Brendan "Smitty" Smith — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 16:57:20 -0500

When I left the Navy, you had the option of wearing your top three ribbons, or all of them. So, I think it depends on the situation. If it's just a business setting requiring the mid level Navy uniform which is not the awful black and khakis, I'd say top row is sufficient. In a Dress or Dinner Dress environment, then all your medals are called for.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2014 5:02 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:02:49 -0500

Ribbons and medals are all fine and good... Speaking to my specific branch you receive a ribbon for many things that are not needed such as.... BMT completion.... Obviously you made it your in, PME ribbon, well if you hold a rank you must have the proper PME to sew on, longevity ribbon no idea why we have that.... Short and long your overseas..... Why?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2014 7:22 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:22:58 -0500

It looks as if this is an official photo for his OMPF. I think for that purpose, wearing all authorized ribbons, badges, and other devices is appropriate. This is the photo that will be seen by the promotion board. If day-to-day duties require the wear of a dress uniform, however, it may be best to go with a less. Not for the sake of appearance, but simply for the sake of being functional. Those ribbons aren't cheap and that's an awful lot of surface area to get caught on something.

Response by MSgt John McDowell made Nov 22 at 2014 8:43 PM

MSgt John McDowell — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:43:19 -0500

I'm sure there is a time and place for the full rack. The Service Dress Jacket is a good choice, but for day to day Airman have the option to wear all some or none on their duty uniform. when I would wear Class B blues, (shirt and pant) I only wore medals ribbons in which were awarded in citation. At some bases the Wing Commander allowed wear of name tag and qualification badge only if desired.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2014 10:03 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:03:34 -0500

Ridiculous...the airforce has ribbons for basket weaving.....I think if the USAF re looked at the awards and streamlined it with everyone else...he would have less than what he actually has.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2014 10:19 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:19:27 -0500

Here is the BLUF....HALF of his ribbon rack has to do with leadership.
Picture this.... If I had a ribbon for every MCI or non-participatory school... I would have ribbons over my shoulder.
I already have 25 ribbons on my rack...so I am quite stacked....but over 25 years....yes....I would not expect anything less. Some have stars and some have oak clusters....but beside the point... I have zero logic to pass on.
I do know that after review....that the lower half of these ribbons are for (marksmanship, leadership, being present to formation, and just basic air force attendance). So if we really tally what this dude really has...he is only wearing a tiny portion of what is earned versus what a serviceman is required to do on a daily basis.
As a former United States Marine...I think that there is a distinct line between what you do as it is required of you versus what is above and beyond your rank and file.

Overall.,,, I don't agree with the USAF awards process...but...it is a sister service and well...they need something to feel good about...because they are the...'everyone gets a trophy' service component.

Response by Sgt Packy Flickinger made Nov 23 at 2014 2:15 AM

Sgt Packy Flickinger — Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:15:01 -0500

If they are legit, more power to him. I'd like to see a pic of his dress uniform with full medals.

Response by SGT Erik Prano made Nov 23 at 2014 3:31 PM

SGT Erik Prano — Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:31:53 -0500

Well, I have to admit, PCS awards are getting too out of hand for most senior NCO's and Officers ... I mean a Legion of Merit for a PSC award for a CSM, I have actually witnessed this. I think AAM is more than sufficient.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 23 at 2014 4:00 PM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:00:03 -0500

Did you read his BIO before you questioned his integrity in a public forum? Why don't you have the balls to question him to his face instead of embarrassing yourself on social media? Do your homework!

Response by SGT Greg Gold made Nov 23 at 2014 9:40 PM

SGT Greg Gold — Sun, 23 Nov 2014 21:40:55 -0500

Part of the issue is the Air Force just has has too many individual and unit awards. Many of them are awarded for right place, right time, and require no more than just showing up for work to qualify for. On that Command Chief's uniform are about 14 ribbons that don't exist in any of the other armed services. By don't exist I mean that none of the other services have an award for what the AF awards theirs for. There are two Army awards on his uniform as well. Take those awards away and that rack starts to look a lot more like other senior NCO racks I'm used to seeing.

I'm not knocking anyone's career choice or their achievements. All I'm saying is the AF lays it on a little thick.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Nov 24 at 2014 11:36 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:36:10 -0500

TSgt Joshua Copeland, wear what you're authorized to wear.

Response by SSG John Erny made Nov 25 at 2014 2:22 PM

SSG John Erny — Tue, 25 Nov 2014 14:22:39 -0500

Wow

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2014 2:47 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 14:47:04 -0500

Have you ever noticed that General Dempsey wears two different service coats. One with the ribbons he earned while in joint assignments and one with his full set of ribbons.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2014 11:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Nov 2014 23:10:44 -0500

I think it should be allowed, but not required. For DA Photos, boards, etc. you should only wear your top 6.

Response by MSgt Bj Jones made Dec 10 at 2014 8:20 PM

MSgt Bj Jones — Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:20:20 -0500

Here's mine.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2014 5:42 PM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Dec 2014 17:42:16 -0500

. Check out his bio. He's an aircrew member who's done a few AFSOC tours. A lot of opportunities to excel there. The dress and appearance instruction requires you to wear all ribbons and devices. Not sure I understand the question unless it's questioning if he's earned the rack.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2014 10:15 AM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 30 Dec 2014 10:15:16 -0500

It probably costs this guy a pretty penny to maintain such a rack and I have no doubt he earned each one. Since wearing all ribbons and devices is mandatory according to AFI, I assume one could re-phrase your question as, "should one seek out situations or volunteer opportunities in a deliberate attempt to earn more medals and ribbons?" Then no. My long answer is that if your goal is to look as much like this guy as possible by the end of your career, rather than to kick butt at your job wherever you are planted including doing some duty at the tip of the spear, than you are in this game for the wrong reasons. Choose self-actualization over self-aggrandizement. Be the best you can be at your job and at leading those around you and appropriate recognition will take care of itself.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2014 1:19 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 31 Dec 2014 13:19:08 -0500

Holy shitballs.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Mar 16 at 2015 11:07 PM

Cpl Mark McMiller — Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:07:46 -0400

My brother retired from the Air Force. I think he has all of those same ribbons on the bottom five rows that he got in Air Force recruit training. I know that's an exaggeration but, seriously, if I remember correctly, he got two or three ribbons just for getting through Air Force recruit training. My other brother, who is a retired Marine Corps colonel, and I still give him a hard time about it. But, hey, that's what brothers are for. ;)

Response by COL Ted Mc made Mar 17 at 2015 2:35 AM

COL Ted Mc — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:35:18 -0400

The picture is a bit unclear but maybe someone can help me out here.

Is the USAF "I Graduated From Basic Training" Ribbon on the bottom row or on the next to bottom row?

I don't doubt the gentleman's entitlement to all of those gongs, where I start to question matters is when I see this gentleman with 12 rows of awards while General Patton had only seven. That's when I start thinking that "just maybe" there are a "few" too many awards/decorations being handed out.

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Mar 17 at 2015 7:39 AM

Cpl Jeff N. — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 07:39:39 -0400

The Air Force should be embarrased that somoene can have a billboard like that. I am sure he has entries in his service record book for everyone of these but the Air Force should really wonder how someone can amass that many awards (medals and ribbons).

By way of comparison, Chesty Puller, one of the most decorated Marines in the history of the Corps had 27 ribbons. He fought in Nicaragua and Haiti, during the Banana Wars, served during World War I, World War II (5 Campaigns in the Pacific) and Korea (Chosin). He was awarded 5 Navy Crosses, a Silver Star and Bronze Star w/V. This guy makes Puller look like a boot.

My Dad was a career Chief Master Sergeant in the Air Force, served 27 years and two tours in Vietnam and doesn't have half the awards of this guy. I know some might say different era's, differnet times. My retort would be that they were times when awards were bestowed with a little more thought and not so easily.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2015 8:28 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:28:05 -0400

I thought that ribbon rack was photo shopped at first. It seems like the rack intentionally faces toward the camera like it has a mind of its own.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2015 9:16 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:16:42 -0400

No disrespect but I think of a scene from the movie "I am gonna get you sucker".
https://youtu.be/oxWlBg3if8A

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Mar 17 at 2015 9:22 AM

Maj Chris Nelson — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:22:10 -0400

Makes no difference. Air Force Instruction states he will wear "ALL". If he earned them, he must wear them. I don't have as many as this, but still have a crazy number (think 28 or 29)... no choice, I wear them all. Used to be able to wear All, Some, or None...not the case now.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2015 10:50 AM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:50:50 -0400

I know Command Chief Mazzone! He is one of the finest leaders I have ever met. :)

Nothing to say about the impressive rack ((insert inappropriate jokes here)). :)

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 17 at 2015 10:59 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:59:54 -0400

More is always better.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Mar 17 at 2015 11:01 AM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:01:31 -0400

Look at the ribbons from the top down. Looks like a DFC for Valor, Bronze Star, Defense Meritorious Service, Meritorious service with a bunch of clusters, and an Air Medal with 12 clusters; other medals and commendations down to the Combat Readiness medal. All indicate the Chief is a true hero. The Chief is also a Senior Aircrew Member and jump qualified. In the AF, you wear all your awards and decorations for an official photo. I expect he has a very distinguished service record. I'd be proud the have him as a Senior Enlisted any where I served.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Mar 17 at 2015 11:09 AM

SFC Collin McMillion — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:09:20 -0400

As long as I had my National Defense, I was happy. After all that was what everything else was about.

Response by SFC Michael Jackson, MBA made Mar 17 at 2015 11:17 AM

SFC Michael Jackson, MBA — Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:17:30 -0400

If you earn an award, wear it. Simple as that

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 18 at 2015 11:58 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Mar 2015 23:58:21 -0400

That looks like the back of the PDG!! That might be the biggest "legit" rack I've seen.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 19 at 2015 12:22 AM

COL Charles Williams — Thu, 19 Mar 2015 00:22:11 -0400

Interesting... A Bomb Wing guy with several V devices... The USAF makes the Army look restrictive with ribbons and medals...

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made May 6 at 2015 4:56 PM

SSgt Michael Cox — Wed, 06 May 2015 16:56:10 -0400

Before i got out in 2009 I know the rules were all or all for ribbons. As you can see from his ribbons and badges he was a rigger and enlisted aircrew which represents half his ribbons. He also according to his ribbon rack did 6 tours combined just in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm also not sure how many other units besides mine have gotten the Outstanding Unit Award with Valor besides the 352 SOG which got their V for getting deployed on an embassy rescue in the Ivory Coast in 2002. So he could have very well been on a gunship or another unit like mine in the Special Operations that did deploy, but with out a name or bio I'm not sure.

Response by TSgt Aaron D. made May 27 at 2015 9:53 PM

TSgt Aaron D. — Wed, 27 May 2015 21:53:21 -0400

42 if I counted right, that is insane. This is proof that ribbons are given out like candy in the Air Force.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2015 10:07 PM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 May 2015 22:07:39 -0400

He has twenty ribbons BELOW national defense... I'm guessing a lot of give me's..... At least the ones before the National Defense

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 12:53 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:53:07 -0400

He was awarded them, wear them. It shows that he didn't twiddle his thumbs throughout his career!!!

Response by MSgt Rick Hovik made Mar 25 at 2016 12:08 AM

MSgt Rick Hovik — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 00:08:03 -0400

yes that is allot, I had a few after 24 years as well. I wonder the "rack" stands out more because its on a darker blue background. Just a thought

Response by MSgt John Darchangelo made Dec 15 at 2016 3:52 AM

MSgt John Darchangelo — Thu, 15 Dec 2016 03:52:09 -0500

If you earned them, wear them....

Response by MSgt Mark Bucher made Mar 12 at 2017 10:15 PM

MSgt Mark Bucher — Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:15:43 -0400

First of all, this is a glorified passport image. If any of my troops shot a portrait this way they'd be decertified and I'd spend a month with them teaching remedial lighting techniques. I don't care how many ribbons they have, you never pull the lapel back under the ribbons rack. This is evidence of how badly the quality of imagery currently produced in the Air Force has slipped since the photographer AFSC was eliminated and the career field as a whole was absorbed into the PA career field. What a shitty photograph

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2017 4:41 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:41:38 -0400

40 individual ribbons with almost as many leaf clusters on various ones. This is why we poke fun at the Air Force (in good fun, of course).

Response by SGT Mathew Husen made Apr 6 at 2017 4:51 PM

SGT Mathew Husen — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:51:51 -0400

Why do some people get all butt hurt about how big someones rack is. Does it make them feel left out? Would participation ribbons make them feel better? Maybe they would feel better having this pinned on their Class A's.

Response by SP5 Robert Ruck made Apr 6 at 2017 6:33 PM

SP5 Robert Ruck — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 18:33:14 -0400

He earned them so as far as I can see he should wear them.

Response by SSgt Michael Cox made Apr 6 at 2017 6:51 PM

SSgt Michael Cox — Thu, 06 Apr 2017 18:51:43 -0400

Looking at his rack he most likely was in AFSOC. I had 6 rows and I was only in AFSOC for 9 years before going to AMC as a SSgt. When I separated in 09' AF said awards are all or all no other options.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2017 12:39 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 12:39:30 -0400

What is his AFSC? A lot of Air Service stuff there. Seems to have been everywhere too. Was he Pararescue?

Response by PO1 David Johnson made Apr 7 at 2017 5:03 PM

PO1 David Johnson — Fri, 07 Apr 2017 17:03:45 -0400

Any ribbon below the National Defense is fluff.

Response by SGT Mark Crampton made Oct 4 at 2017 8:24 PM

SGT Mark Crampton — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:24:01 -0400

Just saw a photo (on another site) guy had what looked like several legitimate ribbons - then a bunch I didn't recognize.
They were "COMMERATIVE MEDALS".
Are those legal to wear?

Response by SSG Michael Raysses made Oct 4 at 2017 8:48 PM

SSG Michael Raysses — Wed, 04 Oct 2017 20:48:24 -0400

Always wore mine with pride!.. doesn't matter how many you have received.... bottom line is you've earned them!... HOOAH!...

Response by SP5 Ed Nolan made Oct 5 at 2017 3:32 PM

SP5 Ed Nolan — Thu, 05 Oct 2017 15:32:39 -0400

some can be a bit over the top

Response by MCPO Bob Bayerlein made Oct 6 at 2017 11:07 AM

MCPO Bob Bayerlein — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 11:07:34 -0400

Good on him! Wear what you are authorized- to me it shows your troops you did it- so can they. HMCM(SW) USN Ret

Response by SFC Jim Dorsey made Oct 6 at 2017 6:00 PM

SFC Jim Dorsey — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 18:00:29 -0400

Wow! Talk about prestige, honor, congrats .... definitely paid your dues! Active duty or guard?

Response by SCPO Rev. Dr. Thomas Peavy made Oct 6 at 2017 6:26 PM

SCPO Rev. Dr. Thomas Peavy — Fri, 06 Oct 2017 18:26:27 -0400

A testament to Ribbon and Award Inflation. I recall a time when I served with WWII veterans who had only six awards and they were combat veterans of some tough battles. Usually a first award was Good Conduct for an enlisted man and there were no such things as Sea Service and Overseas service since that was what Sailors did. If he is authorized to wear them OK

Response by Maj Donald Kappel made Oct 7 at 2017 3:44 PM

Maj Donald Kappel — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 15:44:56 -0400

Some services are WAY too loose with ribbons.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2017 7:47 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 19:47:54 -0400

Great man, I've crossed paths with this amazing Chief in my career, when he was a MSgt flying with AFSOC. He has definitely earned his rack!! Way to go Chief M!!!!

Response by MAJ Howard Manwarren made Oct 7 at 2017 7:53 PM

MAJ Howard Manwarren — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 19:53:44 -0400

Audie Murphy can’t touch this guy.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Oct 7 at 2017 7:59 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Sat, 07 Oct 2017 19:59:45 -0400

Two or three rows of three or four ribbons starting from the highest. Two or three Badges.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2017 1:12 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 13:12:11 -0400

Yeah but the Air Force has ribbons that most services don't and hand them out like candy.

Response by PO3 Larry Steele made Oct 8 at 2017 1:42 PM

PO3 Larry Steele — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 13:42:20 -0400

Sometimes I wonder about all the ribbons. I spent 4 years out of the country, 1/66 thru 11/69 and all the Navy awarded was the National Defense Service ribbon. But of course the Navy could never acknowledge that our command structure even existed. The Navy in those days hid us and many other units from the light of day.
I do believe that it is good to acknowledge a units accomplishments and the members contribution with appropriate awards.

Response by CPT James Ash made Oct 8 at 2017 3:25 PM

CPT James Ash — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 15:25:19 -0400

How long has this Airmen been in? How many of those are from different service?

Response by SGT Frank Durinick made Oct 8 at 2017 5:49 PM

SGT Frank Durinick — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 17:49:28 -0400

It's the Airforce, he probably gets a ribbon for getting out of his rack on time.

Response by Sgt Jeff Brunker made Oct 8 at 2017 6:06 PM

Sgt Jeff Brunker — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 18:06:18 -0400

Wear what you are entitled to wear, No more and no less.

Response by SGT Benny Alicea made Oct 8 at 2017 8:05 PM

SGT Benny Alicea — Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:05:41 -0400

Your highest awards should be present not the thank you for joining awards

Response by CPL Gary Signer made Oct 9 at 2017 7:14 PM

CPL Gary Signer — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 19:14:14 -0400

Too much

Response by CPL Gary Signer made Oct 9 at 2017 7:15 PM

CPL Gary Signer — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 19:15:49 -0400

One medal says it all CIB

Response by SN Todd Hayes made Oct 9 at 2017 9:14 PM

SN Todd Hayes — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:14:20 -0400

Ribbons are part of your uniform.if you've earned it,it is suppose to be on your uniform.

Response by SSG Eric Sykes made Oct 9 at 2017 10:07 PM

SSG Eric Sykes — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 22:07:27 -0400

As a former Infantry man my greatest pride is in my CIB. Another thing, when I watch generals in front of congress; I look at their awards. I notice that there is not a lot of V devices on those ribbons. And damn few CIB/CAB awards. I refer to these as Ph.D generals. Very well educated ,lacking good solid experience. Thus they are not the people I would follow in combat.

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Oct 10 at 2017 12:12 PM

CPL Steve Freeman — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:12:30 -0400

If he earned them, which he undoubtedly did or the Command Chief wouldn't be wearing that stuff in front of his superiors...which are, for all intents and purposes, generals.

Response by CSM David Green made Oct 10 at 2017 2:13 PM

CSM David Green — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:13:12 -0400

If he earned them let him wear them.

Response by CPT Ken Hancock made Oct 10 at 2017 3:02 PM

CPT Ken Hancock — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:02:16 -0400

I remember when I was in during the eighties and early nineties it was very tough to get an award, I think the pendulum has swung the other way. I don’t blame the person for wearing them, he was nominated for them and it was approved. I think the award system should be reviewed, if everybody gets one, then they lose their meaning.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2017 7:43 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:43:53 -0400

Let’s be realistic- some services hand out ribbons and medals for showing up on time. A buddy used the term “Mexican General” once at a uniform inspection - appropriate...

Response by Capt Michael Halpin made Oct 10 at 2017 10:55 PM

Capt Michael Halpin — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:55:11 -0400

When I was working for US Customs around Desert Storm time we had several USAF E-4/5s with 4 rows of ribbons for things like completing boot camp. One of the Customs guy got called up and came by before leaving for the Gulf. He was a USMCR Sergent Major, also with 4 rows of ribbons including a Silver Star and Combat Action Ribbon. The number of rows don't impress me, certain ribbons do.

Response by Sgt Lance Leshane made Oct 10 at 2017 11:28 PM

Sgt Lance Leshane — Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:28:30 -0400

It's way too much, even though earned it's a bit over the top.

Response by PO1 Fred McCall made Oct 11 at 2017 8:12 AM

PO1 Fred McCall — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 08:12:27 -0400

I once knew an ensign who had a ribbon rack like that. He was ex-enlisted and had multiple tours pushing gunboats in Vietnam, having had three of them shot out from under him. He got yelled at by the CO for not wearing them all. He thought it was too much and wanted to just wear "the important ones".

Response by SGT Donald Rutledge made Oct 11 at 2017 8:27 AM

SGT Donald Rutledge — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 08:27:45 -0400

Hell! All my ribbons and medals won’t buy me a cup of coffee

Response by CPL David Bartlett made Oct 11 at 2017 12:32 PM

CPL David Bartlett — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 12:32:22 -0400

Be pretty heavy if they were the actual medals! There not required, I would choose the ones I wanted, looks photo-shopped any way

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2017 12:42 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 12:42:30 -0400

He is an assoc guy

Response by SPC Robert Coventry made Oct 11 at 2017 12:47 PM

SPC Robert Coventry — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 12:47:00 -0400

If they have earned the ribbons then they should be entitled to wear them.

Response by MSgt John McGowan made Oct 11 at 2017 1:28 PM

MSgt John McGowan — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:28:24 -0400

I am old core, retired in the 70th. After 20 years I had a total of 10 awards. Now days I go on base and see E5 etc with more than I got in 20. So they give out more awards now, if everyone stays about equal on promotion points it makes no difference.

Response by Cpl TMike Barnes made Oct 11 at 2017 6:27 PM

Cpl TMike Barnes — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:27:31 -0400

This is called “A Full Salad Bar” ,Congrats to you . My 7 were impressive to me also...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2017 8:37 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 20:37:13 -0400

I don't really think it's a big deal. Ribbons don't make you a better leader. Leading makes you a better leader. With all the military services and allowance of intertransferable ribbons and awards if you switch military branches, this isn't surprising. And as I know nothing about the air force, and ribbons sometimes tell a story, a history of the sacrifice that a man gives for the uniform, at any rank, whether it's 3 pieces of fruit salad or 50, questioning a ribbon rack sounds ridiculous.God bless America, and I thank him for his service. SSG P Lewis

Response by CPT Michael Topalian made Oct 11 at 2017 10:11 PM

CPT Michael Topalian — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:11:20 -0400

Is that an msm near the top? Holy crap. No real combat related medals and all that bling. Wt?

Response by SP5 John Brady made Oct 11 at 2017 10:20 PM

SP5 John Brady — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:20:37 -0400

Heck I only have 3. Cold War kid. Mine says I graduated AIT, they sent me overseas for 3 years and I didn’t get busted. Damn proud of them and my 2 DD214’s

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2017 11:36 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 Oct 2017 23:36:06 -0400

I swear, if I see one more post about AR-670-1 material, uniforms, day 1 corrections, or anything else in the genre, I'm going to freaking lose it. We have toxic leadership stacked up from E4 Corporal to 4 star Generals, and all you dopey bastards want to do is discuss possible uniform violations? Not today, E4 mafia. When you're ready to dedicate your time to our most important resources, our Soldiers, Marines, Airmen, and Sailors, and learn what it means to be a mentor, to actually lead and develop soldiers and Future Leaders, to the extent that when a member of your squad f's up, you have everyone stepping in to help that troop instead of taking pics for US Army WTF moments, then go ahead and get back to me.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2017 12:20 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:20:26 -0400

From what I’ve seen with some Air Force members they have ribbons for almost everything. Even training tours or other similar short events.

Response by SSG Jacen Black made Oct 12 at 2017 4:39 AM

SSG Jacen Black — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 04:39:21 -0400

Hey it is what it is. He earned them? Wear them. But as i've always said, if you have more ribbons than time in service, you might be AF. Lol

Response by PO2 Dan Boland made Oct 12 at 2017 7:52 AM

PO2 Dan Boland — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 07:52:53 -0400

I only have 3, but my dolphins mean far more to me [IC2(SS) ]

Response by CWO4 Steven Strehle made Oct 12 at 2017 11:44 AM

CWO4 Steven Strehle — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 11:44:26 -0400

I spent eight years in the Navy, then finished off my career of over 39 years with the Coast Guard. For your formal photo you wear everything. For every day wear, I wore my top three highest, and my coxswains device.

Response by Sgt Terry Paggi made Oct 12 at 2017 9:35 PM

Sgt Terry Paggi — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:35:59 -0400

Is one for finding the mess hall?

Response by PO2 Joe Banville made Oct 12 at 2017 10:41 PM

PO2 Joe Banville — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:41:55 -0400

The only one who has a right to complain is Barksdale, he has to buy that rack

Response by MAJ Joseph Ruiz made Oct 12 at 2017 10:58 PM

MAJ Joseph Ruiz — Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:58:38 -0400

I think it's like feet or big trucks

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 13 at 2017 1:21 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Oct 2017 01:21:01 -0400

What I have a problem with is the proliferation of awards for things that honestly don't deserve an award. The Army Service Ribbon. The Overseas Service Ribbon. Any award with the term 'ribbon' is a joke, IMHO.

Response by CPL Grady Davis made Oct 13 at 2017 9:12 AM

CPL Grady Davis — Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:12:00 -0400

An old very tough CSM Major told me once a long time ago..... if you earned it you "better wear it". Or I'll have your @$$ in a sling.

Response by 1LT Bruce Frazer made Oct 13 at 2017 1:52 PM

1LT Bruce Frazer — Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:52:39 -0400

Being late 1960's infantry I don't recognize any of his ribbons but for the Bronze Star.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Oct 13 at 2017 1:57 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:57:17 -0400

If you earn them you earn them, but I have felt the award of ribbons (just a ribbon) is lame. I would love to see them disappear, they are an I was there thing that quite frankly cheapen uniforms. Either a medal or badge or get rid of it. Things like the overseas service ribbon, the army service ribbon, and the like. What is their purpose?

Response by SCPO Kenneth Raymond made Oct 13 at 2017 5:46 PM

SCPO Kenneth Raymond — Fri, 13 Oct 2017 17:46:20 -0400

If he earned them, let him wear them!!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2017 6:31 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 06:31:47 -0400

I have seen racks that large before but why does it matter if he has earned them then he is free to wear them so long as he is wearing them in the right order also he is wearing them to the left so it looks like he has a lot more if he brings them down evenly it won’t stack so high I myself don’t pay attention to things like that don’t care for it but that’s just me

Response by SSG Cesar Sanchez made Oct 14 at 2017 3:42 PM

SSG Cesar Sanchez — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:42:14 -0400

Not going to hate but this is highly improbable and photographed..

Response by A1C Marvin Williams made Oct 14 at 2017 4:23 PM

A1C Marvin Williams — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 16:23:51 -0400

He earned them and should be proud to wear them.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2017 5:49 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 17:49:54 -0400

I feel that if he has earned the ribbons proudly share them.

Response by PO2 Steve Hollenczer made Oct 14 at 2017 8:08 PM

PO2 Steve Hollenczer — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 20:08:17 -0400

USAF always gets more ribbons, us poor Submariner's were lucky to have two or three after 4 years service and years at sea! Shhh, its all secret!

Response by CW4 Douglas Smith made Oct 14 at 2017 9:47 PM

CW4 Douglas Smith — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 21:47:32 -0400

one very busy Soldier......

Response by SSgt Daniel Applebaum made Oct 14 at 2017 10:00 PM

SSgt Daniel Applebaum — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:00:34 -0400

With 2 DFCs and a Bronze Star, bet is he probably was AFSOC at some point, not to mention the jump wings

Response by LTC David Sullivan made Oct 14 at 2017 10:10 PM

LTC David Sullivan — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:10:57 -0400

If orders back up those awards and decorations he is required to wear them. The question is irrelevant

Response by 1stSgt Sam Damewood made Oct 14 at 2017 10:30 PM

1stSgt Sam Damewood — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:30:37 -0400

Response by MSgt James Gross made Oct 14 at 2017 10:59 PM

MSgt James Gross — Sat, 14 Oct 2017 22:59:36 -0400

Wow. I took one look at him and thought to myself "he looks familiar". Then I looked up the Barksdale AFB Command Chief's name and it looked really familiar. I went to my office, pulled out an old AF yearbook I had, and there he was! We were stationed as Cops at Kunsan in the early 90's. He was a cop then worked on AC-130's. He has, indeed, been there, done that. He even has a DFC with V device...quite impressive.

Response by CCMSgt Richard Russell made Oct 15 at 2017 8:02 AM

CCMSgt Richard Russell — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 08:02:15 -0400

Ah, I would have said 'allows him to wear earned awards'....

Response by SMSgt John Chapman made Oct 15 at 2017 3:40 PM

SMSgt John Chapman — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 15:40:03 -0400

No wonder Marines look at USAF and laugh.

Response by Vicki Morgan made Oct 15 at 2017 7:40 PM

Vicki Morgan — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 19:40:55 -0400

As long as he is not violating orders or military direction; you earn them, wear them!!

Response by 1LT John Mooney made Oct 15 at 2017 7:48 PM

1LT John Mooney — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 19:48:06 -0400

I agree, if you earned them - wear them proudly

Response by SFC Keith Sollazzo made Oct 15 at 2017 7:57 PM

SFC Keith Sollazzo — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 19:57:58 -0400

If awarded all then more power to the service member. I must say that the larger the rack the more expensive it is to maintain. I chose to wear less when assigned to Recruiting Command because G-Jet seatbelts tore them up quick.

Response by CSM Thomas McGarry made Oct 15 at 2017 8:08 PM

CSM Thomas McGarry — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:08:09 -0400

As long as they are all authorized it should be OK!!

Response by SSG William Johnson made Oct 15 at 2017 8:20 PM

SSG William Johnson — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:20:06 -0400

This Non Com deserves all the respect in the world not only for his service but for his accomplishments. There would NEVER have been a question in a soldiers mind in the past of what this hero has on his chest only respect and admiration for his accomplishments. Being the top NonCom for his installation he shows what every service member of all branches can accomplish with loyalty commitment hard work and devotion to duty! Does that sound familiar folks; called the NCO CREED! If you have to question this top leaders uniform and decorations then either you should question your commitment to the uniform or your career choice in the armed forces something that is a proud tradition and honor. To this new leader I would say thank you for your service sacrifice and new position leading our heroes in trying times.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2017 8:27 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:27:20 -0400

ERB will state if he is entitled to those ribbon

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2017 8:36 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:36:42 -0400

Had this debate with wife regarding mini medals on mess dress. She said get them all, I said I would shoot for $75 dollars worth. Seriously, If you earned and rate it, wear it. KEB

Response by SGT Robert Helsel made Oct 15 at 2017 9:39 PM

SGT Robert Helsel — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 21:39:23 -0400

Personally, I think the military it General hands out awards like toilet paper these days. There was a time when you actually had to something to earn them.

Response by Lt Col Jim Bemis made Oct 15 at 2017 10:06 PM

Lt Col Jim Bemis — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 22:06:34 -0400

I think the point mentioned elsewhere is that, at least when it comes to service dress, the USAF requires the member to wear all of the ribbons they've earned. As a command CMSgt, which somewhere on either side of 30 years of service, the rack may be a little high, but not impossible. I retired with about a six-rack with only 22 years of service, and no combat, etc., so it seems possible to me. More importantly, though, is, if he earned them, he may have no choice but to display them this way.

Response by SP5 Joel O'Brien made Oct 15 at 2017 10:36 PM

SP5 Joel O'Brien — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 22:36:59 -0400

Response by SGT Gary Stemen made Oct 15 at 2017 11:25 PM

SGT Gary Stemen — Sun, 15 Oct 2017 23:25:20 -0400

If they are an award in recognition of service performed, they should be worn....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 16 at 2017 1:14 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:14:59 -0400

I didn’t join for the medals, in fact I wish they would give me a good bottle of whiskey instead and say thank you. I’m proud to be a server of my state and nation.

Response by 1stSgt Nelson Kerr made Oct 16 at 2017 1:48 AM

1stSgt Nelson Kerr — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 01:48:50 -0400

Looks like a comic opera general.

Response by PO1 Dave Guarino made Oct 16 at 2017 1:33 PM

PO1 Dave Guarino — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:33:55 -0400

Too much is too much.

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Oct 16 at 2017 1:54 PM

SFC Jim Ruether — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:54:39 -0400

Boy that airman is listing to port! That is one helluva lettuce salad you got going there!

Response by SFC Carl Stoffer made Oct 16 at 2017 2:01 PM

SFC Carl Stoffer — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:01:57 -0400

If the man walks the walk, talks the talk, has legally earned each and every award according to command and DOD , why is he even being questioned? You should be proud of this individual!

Response by MGySgt John Lewis made Oct 16 at 2017 8:29 PM

MGySgt John Lewis — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 20:29:49 -0400

Recall many years ago in a bar outside the gate. A Marine Master Gunny, Korea and Vietnam veteran, was sitting at the bar sipping on a cold beer when a young sailor walked in. He looked at the rack the Master Guns had and exclaimed something like, "Wow, how many ribbons do you have?"

The Master Guns took another sip, looked at the young sailor and replied, "Every damned inspection I have about $40.00 worth of ribbons and devices."

Response by MGySgt John Lewis made Oct 16 at 2017 8:37 PM

MGySgt John Lewis — Mon, 16 Oct 2017 20:37:44 -0400

His rack is impressive, but Col. Bud Day's was more impressive.

Response by PO2 Skip Kirkwood made Oct 17 at 2017 10:51 AM

PO2 Skip Kirkwood — Tue, 17 Oct 2017 10:51:50 -0400

If I read his badges right, he is a SPECOP dude - specifically, a highly decorated PJ. They do lots of crazy, scary stuff "that others may live."

Response by SFC William Stephens made Oct 17 at 2017 2:58 PM

SFC William Stephens — Tue, 17 Oct 2017 14:58:49 -0400

FRUIT SALAD! TRULY

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 12 at 2018 9:03 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Sat, 12 May 2018 21:03:23 -0400

Since you folks, wear everything on one rack, it can be intimidating, but if he earned them, then why not show them?

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 22 at 2018 9:20 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Tue, 22 May 2018 09:20:47 -0400

1 of my friends rack looks similar, retired COL with 35 years service- enlisted and O. So what is the problem as long as he earned them?

Response by MSgt Dale Johnson made May 22 at 2018 10:52 AM

MSgt Dale Johnson — Tue, 22 May 2018 10:52:10 -0400

If you earned them babies, fly 'em high!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2018 12:34 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 May 2018 12:34:09 -0400

TSgt Joshua Copeland my first thought is how much money did that ribbon rack cost and I hope he bought it through a company that allows you to mail it back in when you get another award to save money!!!!

Response by A1C Lexas Granger made Oct 1 at 2018 7:07 AM

A1C Lexas Granger — Mon, 01 Oct 2018 07:07:02 -0400

According to the AFI if you’re authorized to wear the accouterments you’re supposed to wear them. This CCM is following the AFI. There’s no issue here.

Response by SrA Jared Hall made May 17 at 2019 10:31 AM

SrA Jared Hall — Fri, 17 May 2019 10:31:44 -0400

Knowing that General George Marshall pushed the Bronze Star to be the ground combatants equivalent to the Air Medal, look at how may Air Medals he has compared to the Bronze Star. Not saying this Chief didn’t, more or less earn them but it’s hard to believe when it’s a Senior NCO or an officer because I know some who got it by sitting behind a desk. That’s a bit much.

Response by PO2 Tony Divito made Nov 13 at 2019 12:27 PM

PO2 Tony Divito — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 12:27:05 -0500

The less clutter the better. Many USN officers display only the top four ribbons.

Response by 1stSgt Bob Ceely made Nov 13 at 2019 2:24 PM

1stSgt Bob Ceely — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:24:53 -0500

They need to make them smaller if they are going keep creating new ones just for meritorious latrine cleaning, edible food prep, outstanding tarmac sweeping, best ironing award....

Response by CW4 Jim Shelburn made Nov 13 at 2019 2:57 PM

CW4 Jim Shelburn — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 14:57:14 -0500

If you have been awarded a ribbon then you are required to wear it. We don’t pick and choose. What’s the problem?

Response by 1SG John V. made Nov 13 at 2019 3:19 PM

1SG John V. — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 15:19:53 -0500

He earned them....He wears them.

We will wear all of the awards we’ve received, he is no different.

Response by SFC Bobby Vann made Nov 13 at 2019 4:31 PM

SFC Bobby Vann — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 16:31:22 -0500

This is why we make fun of the Air Force. Four MSMs and four higher awards???? They are awards for hard work NOT candy. I had soldiers with two one-year deployments to Iraq and earned one ARCOM. After awhile, you guys give out awards for attendance and taking college algebra.....Ridiculous

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2019 5:26 PM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:26:03 -0500

I see nothing that’s not AFSC or grade inappropriate. I see at least two that I don’t consider just square fillers or showing up trophies. Namely the DFC and the CAM. So if I were you I’d just shut my pie hole.

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 13 at 2019 5:28 PM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:28:20 -0500

Edit: I see nothing that IS AFSC or grade inappropriate!

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Nov 13 at 2019 6:22 PM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 18:22:47 -0500

Ig he rates it, and it is worn IAW appropriate service regulations, then who am I to judge (other than a judgment of awe)?

Response by CPT Robert Holden made Nov 13 at 2019 9:42 PM

CPT Robert Holden — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:42:19 -0500

It’s not over the top if you earned them

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2019 11:45 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 11:45:40 -0500

Are we suggesting he remove ribbons from his rack? If so, does he get do decide which awards are meaningful and which aren’t? If he is in regulation it doesn’t matter what our perception of his rack is. He is right.

Response by SP5 Roger Hurst made Jun 29 at 2021 5:25 PM

SP5 Roger Hurst — Tue, 29 Jun 2021 17:25:11 -0400

Yes, too much

Response by SGT Ruben Lozada made Nov 9 at 2022 1:39 PM

SGT Ruben Lozada — Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:39:44 -0500

He's earned Them. Why not wear Them.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Nov 9 at 2022 1:56 PM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Wed, 09 Nov 2022 13:56:56 -0500

In my opinion when I see that I first think wow...we've got a medal chaser here. BUT in his case, they all may be legit as he is airborne qualified and is an enlisted aircrew member...very possible in today's wars.

Response by PO1 John Johnson made Nov 10 at 2022 8:06 AM

PO1 John Johnson — Thu, 10 Nov 2022 08:06:31 -0500

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Nov 10 at 2022 8:33 AM

SFC Jim Ruether — Thu, 10 Nov 2022 08:33:13 -0500

Doesn't regulation state that you take the most important and display those ribbons on the rack and leave the rest in the drawer for use later when you kick the bucket and just before they close the lid?

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Nov 10 at 2022 9:01 AM

SFC Jim Ruether — Thu, 10 Nov 2022 09:01:24 -0500

The UCMJ states that ribbon display is 1'8" off the top of the pocket, display ribbons in as many rows of 4 ribbons each as is necessary to show awards. I had to look it up and this is regulation.

Response by CW5 Mark Smith made Nov 12 at 2022 10:32 AM

CW5 Mark Smith — Sat, 12 Nov 2022 10:32:07 -0500

For the sake of comparison, most of us returned from Viet Nam with three ribbons.

Response by SPC David Buttrey made Nov 30 at 2022 10:03 AM

SPC David Buttrey — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 10:03:47 -0500

If he earned he should wear them. Especially if it’s regulation.

Response by PO2 Steve Wikert made Nov 30 at 2022 1:17 PM

PO2 Steve Wikert — Wed, 30 Nov 2022 13:17:41 -0500

"MEDAL INFLATION"
FIRST OF ALL LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM OF THIS COMMAND CHIEF OR ANY PARTICULAR PERSON.
There is actually an article in Wikipedia called "Medal Inflation"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_inflation
Now the the medals on the top of the scale ie: Medal of Honor, Silver Star... have remained the same and should always be there but what this airman is wearing has become excessive. I know when I sent to find out the medals my Dad had earned in WWII, I was surprised how few medals there were for the largest war the world has ever seen. My Dad earned five actual medals but he was on a destroyer that quite frankly moved all over the globe. So he got all the campaign medals possible plus his Honorable Discharge medal. As it was he had only 5 medals. I am a Vietnam veteran and also was in a unit which got several commendation ribbons so I have 5 medals and 2 ribbons.

I noticed that this trend started even in JROTC 25+ years ago. I set up Veterans Day assemblies in the schools I taught in and I would have JROTC (this is high school) be honor guards for the program. Some of them who had only been in the program a year or less had numerous ribbons on their racks.

I talked to their CC who was a retired Army Colonel and he was upset about it also. He said they gave them away like candy. This is possibly an off-shoot of the criticism that has come in our public schools and recreation programs where every participant gets some certificate or reward for just participating. It therefore diminishes the awards given in competitive situations for people who actually won the event or placed in the top 3 or 4. Several generations of sailors, soldiers and airmen are used to this type of pseudo-recognition.
Maybe a solution be would be to first stop giving so many ribbons out and then only allow 6 rows of the top ribbons and then have a single ribbon at the end where a number could be attached to the ribbon or medal (1, 2 , 3 ......25.....) which would designates how many more awards they have earned.

Medal inflation - Wikipedia

Response by Barry Stasiewicz made Dec 1 at 2022 2:11 AM

Barry Stasiewicz — Thu, 01 Dec 2022 02:11:05 -0500

Some guys are just busy-busy-busy. Looks kinda overpowering, but *WOW* is my impression - in a good way ^__^

Response by TSgt Charles Short made Dec 1 at 2022 10:29 AM

TSgt Charles Short — Thu, 01 Dec 2022 10:29:27 -0500

Wow

Response by SGT Victor Negrete made Dec 3 at 2022 12:42 PM

SGT Victor Negrete — Sat, 03 Dec 2022 12:42:02 -0500

He must have served in WW2 , Korea n War , Vietnam and the last two skirmish from last 20 years. WOW

Response by PO2 Mike Vignapiano made Dec 4 at 2022 2:52 PM

PO2 Mike Vignapiano — Sun, 04 Dec 2022 14:52:27 -0500

If he earned them, he has every right to wear them. Only issue would be if they’re in the correct hierarchy. I’m no expert but have always been told (& corrected) by officers that some medals/ribbons do go above others.

Response by CMSgt Donald ONeill made Dec 5 at 2022 9:51 PM

CMSgt Donald ONeill — Mon, 05 Dec 2022 21:51:51 -0500

I think the person asking about this Chiefs ribbons should look at the AF ribbon chart and educate himself . The late great Robin Olds came up to me and looked at my ribbons and bages and said "Hey Sarge Where the hell have you been "

Response by CAPT Steve Remmenga made Dec 6 at 2022 11:43 AM

CAPT Steve Remmenga — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 11:43:56 -0500

All I can say is thank you for your service! He has earned them and we should celebrate his outstanding service.

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Dec 6 at 2022 2:04 PM

A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney — Tue, 06 Dec 2022 14:04:03 -0500

BEAUTIFUL....
The Pile Of Ribbons Match The High Quantity Of Stripes..
Looks GREAT To Me...

I'll Tell Ya About Mine..... I Had 2 Small Rows, But I Only Had 2 Stripes....
I Looked Stupid Wearing Those, So I Reduced Them To 3 Ribbons & Left It That Way.
YET, To This Day, When I Look In The Mirror, A Stupid Guy Still looks Back At Me.

Response by SrA Kathleen Cuyler made Dec 16 at 2022 12:02 AM

SrA Kathleen Cuyler — Fri, 16 Dec 2022 00:02:35 -0500

If you wear dress blue you are suppose to wear all ribbons

Response by SSgt Jeffrey Weisman made Jan 18 at 2023 6:01 AM

SSgt Jeffrey Weisman — Wed, 18 Jan 2023 06:01:39 -0500

By the Look of it this CFMSGT has BIG CLANKERS! He appears by his racks that perhaps he might be able 2 cut the ribbons back? By using Oak leaf clusters? Though 1 I cannot distinctly saw ALL of his ribbons unless I get my heavy duty clear bottle bottom peepers out? But then I do not have a list beside me that tells me all that he is showing other than nat'l Defense, UNIT Citation, & a Great conduct metal? He maybe what we used 2 call having a board set like this a "LIFER!" But in Bido's military he's been trying 2 push the mid to hierarchy out of the ranks 4 not getting covid shots!!
It still kinda seems 2 me that he & parts of his staff are Manchurian Candidates and per his Boss, nope not Jill or God it's more like G Z PING PONG BALLS who is attempting 2 reduce our ranks and readiness with pushing drugs on the streets so we are running out of youthful possibilities, 2 enter our ranks 2 SERVE GOD & COUNTRY!
Mentally sliding Biden is weakening our farmers, ranchers, plus it seems like there has been a lot of food processing companies going mysteriously off line since about July of 2021? Ie...fires, broken down conveyor systems that suddenly are missing rare pieces that are not easily located or rereplicated, some sort of toxins forcing the workers from the places that they work in and lots more!
So basically this young Fellow is definitely a well preserved by the look of the pix 2 B a Big Cheese in his area these days! My salute 2 him is "MAY God keep U & all of ur peers, E-0 Airman.& up, MAY GOD BLESS U 4 ALL THAT U'ALL DO 4 OUR COUNTRY BY PROTECTING IT & its CITIZENS! MAY GOD KEEP U ALL SAFE & WELL! I WANT 2 THANK HIM et al 4 their Service!
Finally some inspirational words from an anonymous person + from Richard J. Calton TSGT (ret) & myself
Jeffrey A. Weisman (ret)

"FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!"

"ASK A VETERAN & THEIR FAMILY!"

"ASK GOLD STAR FAMILIES!"

"ASK CURRENTLY DEPLOYED U.S. ARMED SERVICES MEMBERS & THEIR FAMILIES!"

Response by MSgt Craig Gauger made Feb 2 at 2023 12:54 AM

MSgt Craig Gauger — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 00:54:23 -0500

He most likely earned them. In his position, it would be idiotic to wear unearned decs. He's so visible that someone (or many) will check them out. I've never seen that many decs, but then I haven't gone out of my way to investigate those things. When I was in, I eventually had 25 different decs and I thought that that was a lot. I didn't earn some of the very high awards either. My MSM was disapproved twice when I was an E-6 and then they made no effort to award it to me at retirement. It hurt at the time that they didn't care enough to do the award, but now it doesn't really matter.
On another note, looking at one's rack, you can see their career; how long they served, where they may have been stationed or deployed to, whether they were in more than one branch of service, AD and or reserves/NG/ANG, etc.

Response by Cpl Jim Gilstrap made Feb 8 at 2023 6:55 PM

Cpl Jim Gilstrap — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 18:55:50 -0500

In most cases I would say wear what you've earned. However, if any of these are for typing or something stupid that really doesn't need a ribbon, get it out....

Response by BG Mike Bridges made Feb 17 at 2023 3:56 AM

BG Mike Bridges — Fri, 17 Feb 2023 03:56:24 -0500

Army, Air Force, tons of deployments, a bunch of unit awards. A great tour of duty.