Can soldiers in civilian clothes salute a fallen comrade memorial?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:56:51 -0400

I recently visited the Fallen Warriors Memorial on Cutten Road in Spring, TX. While I was there, I noticed a Veteran wearing a Vietnam hat and although I wanted to walk over to him and shake his hand, I decided to back off as he was paying his respects; however, prior to him leaving he stood in front of the memorial, came to attention and held a salute for a few seconds before bringing it down. So my question is actually coming from me as I've felt compelled to salute as well, but have refrained as I'm not sure what is correct.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Mar 24 at 2016 10:03 AM

SFC Stephen King — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:03:02 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member It is authorized and earned in my opinion as well as when the National Anthem is played you are authorized to render a salute http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=1609

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Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Mar 24 at 2016 10:05 AM

SGM Mikel Dawson — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:05:27 -0400

Just try and stop me!

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 11:06 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:06:35 -0400

Yes, Veterans are entitled BY LAW now to render the hand salute while in civilian clothing.

Response by PO2 Chris Steinheiser made Mar 24 at 2016 11:29 AM

PO2 Chris Steinheiser — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:29:01 -0400

Absolutely - takes some time to get used to - civilians salute with their right hand over their left chest / heart. If you are in full uniform - boy scouts / girl scouts - you are also allowed to execute a full salute from tip of cap. I'm sure there are other uniforms that are also appropriate but those are the ones that I know for sure!

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Mar 24 at 2016 11:35 AM

LTC Paul Labrador — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:35:32 -0400

Like anyone is going to stop you.....?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 11:41 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:41:32 -0400

Hi, PFC Pereira.

A provision of the 2009 Defense Authorization Act changes federal law to allow U.S. veterans and military personnel not in uniform to render the military hand salute when the national anthem is played. The new law took effect on October 14.

This change adds to a provision which was passed in the 2008 Defense Bill, which authorized veterans and military personnel in civilian clothes to render the military salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag.

For the vet saluting a Fallen Warrior Memorial. That gesture honors a code among our brothers and sisters that transcends any rule or regulation, in my opinion. Any officer or enlisted personnel I know would get it, and likely do the same. I wouldn't care if it's dead on accurate or ridiculously against the rules. He is honoring his fallen brethren. With respect, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Response by SPC James Dollins made Mar 24 at 2016 11:42 AM

SPC James Dollins — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:42:55 -0400

I see no problem w/ a vet or really anyone saluting a memorial to the fallen. I see it, as many do, exactly what it is a sign of respect.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 12:04 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:04:00 -0400

Why the hell not. I don't understand why this is a question.

Response by LTC Marc King made Mar 24 at 2016 12:35 PM

LTC Marc King — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:35:53 -0400

Congress changed the law a number of years ago. Veterans can now render the "Hand Salute" at all activities where the colors are displayed and or the National Anthem is played. This would include memorials and attendance at a funeral for a Veteran / family member at which honors are rendered in the form of "Taps" and a formal military Honor Guard (The Flag is always present). You have earned the right to salute your Flag your Anthem and most of all your fellow Veterans -- and Congress recognizes this hard won privilege. You sir... "ARE GOOD TO GO!"

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 12:56 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:56:57 -0400

even if it is "illegal", how do you enforce it? throw them into the prison? swat team rushing in to drop them to the ground?

A salute, is a act of respect. No regulation can dictate that, in fact, it is their 1st Amendment too.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Mar 24 at 2016 1:08 PM

CPT Pedro Meza — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:08:25 -0400

Us Constitution has given you the right to express what is in your heart to show respect for the fallen, and I am sure that every CSM will agree with you. So learn from your elders; this Vietnam Vet.

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Mar 24 at 2016 1:23 PM

SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:23:02 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member As stated by 1SG Jason Hastings saluting is authorized based on the Defense Authorization of 2008 and 2009. I would not find this offensive.

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 24 at 2016 1:57 PM

Maj John Bell — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:57:33 -0400

One theory is that a hand salute comes from the raising of a knight's visor plate on his helmet. (Don't know if it is true or not, but it sounds cool). As such, it showed that, the knight was making his eyes vulnerable, and thus meant no harm. A crisp, smartly rendered hand salute offered in a spirit of mutual respect and recognition of military service and sacrifice can never be wrong, can it?

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2016 2:11 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:11:42 -0400

I believe the time I spent in the military gives me the privilege to salute as a show oF respect and honor.

I have often saluted vets who show their pride of service by wearing a cap or other symbol. I have brought many a smile to an old vets face by rendering a salute.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Mar 24 at 2016 2:13 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:13:59 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member That is all we can do for those departed, show respect!

Response by PO2 Mark Saffell made Mar 24 at 2016 2:24 PM

PO2 Mark Saffell — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:24:15 -0400

This is more a Navy thing but I have been several times and will be going again in August. If you ever have the chance to visit the Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor I strongly recommend doing it. I have been to Arlington and the Tomb of the Unknowns and that's a very moving experience but it seems to me there are a lot of people that forget about The Arizona and what those guys went through on that Sunday morning. My point is. in uniform or not as you step on the Memorial it would be very hard not to render a salute

Response by SP5 Mark Kuzinski made Mar 24 at 2016 2:52 PM

SP5 Mark Kuzinski — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:52:03 -0400

Good question but you know what my answer is - Yes and giving the chance I would have loved to join him in the salute. I'm so very proud to be a Vet.

Response by PO2 Michael Henry made Mar 24 at 2016 3:14 PM

PO2 Michael Henry — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:14:01 -0400

What law would you be breaking and who would dare try to enforce it?

Response by SFC Craig Dalen made Mar 24 at 2016 3:33 PM

SFC Craig Dalen — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:33:25 -0400

They deserve the honor!

Response by COL R. Bruce Chisholm made Mar 24 at 2016 4:11 PM

COL R. Bruce Chisholm — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:11:02 -0400

Yes. From the series of novels "Brotherhood of War" by W.E.B. Griffin, "a salute is a greeting between practioners of the profession of arms." I've always felt it was something WE do, not as a chore or burden. Bank tellers don't salute and bank managers don't get to return them.

Response by 1LT William Clardy made Mar 24 at 2016 5:15 PM

1LT William Clardy — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:15:38 -0400

To all those who think that some law is required for anybody to have the right to salute a memorial or fallen comrade, you are looking at the issue bass-ackwards. A couple of NDAs may show Congress' approval of some forms of expression, but I challenge you to find any judge who would extend that explicit approval into a ban on using that same gesture elsewhere or under other circumstances.

As PO3 Private RallyPoint Member observed, showing respect is just as protected a form of speech as any other, certainly as well protected as burning a flag in protest. So legally, everybody has an equal right to make a gesture of respect, regardless of anybody's notions about "earning" that right or being "authorized" to express that respect.

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Mar 24 at 2016 7:51 PM

SSG Drew Cook — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:51:47 -0400

Despite any law, US code, policy, record of memorandum, or the like, I sincerely doubt that anyone making a hand salute is committing anything unlawful. Wouldn't that be considered free speech?

Response by CW2 Carl Swanson made Mar 25 at 2016 11:55 AM

CW2 Carl Swanson — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:55:05 -0400

This is RESPECT! This has nothing to do with some paper pushing punk who is only about the rules and doesn't live the credo. I have no problems with vets/retiree giving a hand salute to the flag, the fallen or even each other. We earned it and NO ONE has the authority over me to stop me from doing what I feel is right. (Sorry, don't mean to sound so angry!)

Response by SSG Edward Joy made Mar 25 at 2016 12:57 PM

SSG Edward Joy — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:57:32 -0400

I don't know where to begin, I am just so touched that congress actuality voted to allow me to render a hand salute, to those soldiers who served before me who have died. and also to salute the flag of my country.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2016 2:57 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:57:48 -0400

It's authorized for the flag and anthem. I don't think someone would bust your chops honoring fallen warriors. I have and will again, don't really care what is proper. They deserve the show of respect and love from their brothers and sisters. Carry on brother!

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Mar 25 at 2016 3:19 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 15:19:00 -0400

Civilians aren't as constrained by regulations as are active duty military members.

Response by SFC Lawrence McQuiston made Mar 25 at 2016 3:57 PM

SFC Lawrence McQuiston — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 15:57:49 -0400

I wouldn't hesitate. I do it to my list friends burying at several VA Cemeteries while in civilian clothes. These men were my brothers. I honor them in anyway possible. They are the true Hero's
SFC McQuiston.
US Army
Infantry

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2016 4:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:10:12 -0400

Response by SFC Joseph Dunphy made Mar 25 at 2016 5:18 PM

SFC Joseph Dunphy — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:18:14 -0400

Veterans can salute the Flag in civilian attire. Same basic idea, IMO.

Response by SPC Steven Hill made Mar 25 at 2016 5:40 PM

SPC Steven Hill — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:40:55 -0400

Actually you can salute in civilian attire per congressional law back in 2007. That includes the anthem, and all uniformed flag saluting regulations. Also the same honors rendered to officers, MOH recipients, and such.

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Mar 25 at 2016 5:50 PM

Maj Chris Nelson — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:50:27 -0400

It is a show of respect. Quite honestly, I would hate to be the person that tries to correct me... I will probably "light them up" and regardless of the National Defense Authorization Act allowing salutes out of uniform, honestly, unless there is a public law that supersedes 1st Amendment, not sure you can stop non-military/civilians from doing it (even if done poorly or incorrectly).

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 25 at 2016 7:06 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Fri, 25 Mar 2016 19:06:19 -0400

I have attended many ceremonies and memorials before and after retirement and I have made a lot of corrections, never have I stopped a Veteran from rendering honors in the form of a salute. Whomever would take it upon themselves to stop a "Veteran" from saluting to honor the fallen under any circumstances should "Check Themselves".

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2016 3:45 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 03:45:37 -0400

I'm just lowly FC3 here, but I fail to see how this can even be debated. I would never question an action (a hand salute in this case) that is in honor of the fallen. Just my opinion. Take it how you want.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2016 4:33 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 04:33:42 -0400

Many of us have lost friends. They wouldn't care what you were wearing to show respect. Why should we? Nobody will enforce this because nobody wants a busted jaw.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2016 9:09 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:09:25 -0400

You can honor a fallen comrade anywhere and at any time.

Try and make a rule or regulation that stops me.

Response by Sgt Chris Papierz made Mar 26 at 2016 9:56 AM

Sgt Chris Papierz — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 09:56:00 -0400

As a Marine, I don't salute unless under cover so if I am not wearing a hat, I stand at attention and put my hand on my heart when the flag passes, taps plays, pledge of allegiance, or national anthem. If I am wearing a hat, I salute during the same events. What I find disturbing is that we can worry about what constitutes showing respect while I see so many people don't know or don't care with blatant disrespect during those events by not stopping, talking, leaving hats on etc.

Response by CPT Richard Riley made Mar 26 at 2016 5:18 PM

CPT Richard Riley — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 17:18:28 -0400

There is no wrong here. As has been stated in other comments and covered by authorization, a salute is a proper show of respect and is never out of place when performed correctly.

Response by SPC Matt Johnson made Mar 26 at 2016 7:39 PM

SPC Matt Johnson — Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:39:13 -0400

don't know anyone that would stop you. Sorta one of thous questions that makes you wonder why it even needs to be asked in the first place.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2016 10:46 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:46:15 -0400

Respect means so much to Veterans of that era, considering the animus they faced, coming back from Vietnam.

Response by SSG James Bigbie made Mar 29 at 2016 6:04 AM

SSG James Bigbie — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:04:49 -0400

The original definition of a salute- A greeting between warriors. Clothing doesn't matter.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 6:35 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:35:05 -0400

Anyone who participated in the violent fiasco we call the Vietnam Conflict, and lived through it, can do whatever the hell they please.

I know you're just curious, troop. All these other replies referencing the NDAA covered it.

Response by CW2 Brian Beatty made Mar 29 at 2016 6:37 AM

CW2 Brian Beatty — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 06:37:48 -0400

Regulations say if you recognize then you should salute

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 8:02 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:02:42 -0400

The National Defense Authorizaton act allows service members and veterans in civilian attire to salute the flag and at any other situation where they would otherwise for ceremonies.

Response by CPO Donald Crisp made Mar 29 at 2016 9:02 AM

CPO Donald Crisp — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:02:54 -0400

You have to keep one thing in mind. What is a salute? It is an action of respect. As it has been posted, "congress" has authorized it, but I honestly don't need congress to tell me when it is appropriate for me to salute, whether it be the ensign, a superior officer, or a peer who has distinguished him/herself. Respect is something that we seem to have lost in this nation and I firmly believe that we as veterans need to bring it back. As a previous commenter stated, Try to stop me from saluting a fallen comrade. I promise it won't be a pretty sight.

Response by TSgt Eric Lewis made Mar 29 at 2016 9:39 AM

TSgt Eric Lewis — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:39:08 -0400

Yes, we have every right to salute at memorials. We are showing respect.
Vets can also salute during the national anthem (found that out a few years back at a football game).

Response by Sgt Tom Vaughn made Mar 29 at 2016 9:45 AM

Sgt Tom Vaughn — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:45:53 -0400

To this day if I see a retired or former officer and when at Camp Pendelton , I still salute officers and always the flag , at a rodeo in Hamilton Montana I was stand way from the bleachers when the colors were being raised , I saluted instead of removing my cover ,
1 non veteran yelled at
Me during the salute , as is custom for Marines I said nothing until after . One fellow veteran step up and told the non veteran to shut his pie hole , I informed the dude that I'm a US Marine and I can salute with hand or hat , and that I was outside of a building so I saluted properly , lol the look on his face was priceless and several other veterans then stood up and saluted me .
If someone tells me I can not salute ! I informed them I earned that ability to render a salute
SEMPER FI

Response by LTC Andrew Addison made Mar 29 at 2016 9:46 AM

LTC Andrew Addison — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:46:10 -0400

Who's going to correct him? Not me.

Response by SSgt Dwight Deatherage made Mar 29 at 2016 9:56 AM

SSgt Dwight Deatherage — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:56:47 -0400

The Defense Spending Act of 2007 contained a rider that passed that stated all Veterans and Military personnel not in uniform may render a proper hand salute in situations where civilians would normally put a hand over their heart. This was also meant to cover those situations where a hand salute should be presented. It took the veteran's groups several years to get this passed, and almost as many years to get the word out. The Veitnam Veteran was correct in his rendering of a hand salute.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made Mar 29 at 2016 10:05 AM

MSgt J D McKee — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:05:02 -0400

I don't give a fuck whether anyone thinks it's correct or not. A salute is between fellow warriors, or soldiers, if one wants to be pedantic. No one except a warrior has the right to judge. Any warrior would likely agree with me. And, if not, I refer you to my first sentence.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 10:39 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:39:04 -0400

From the Feb 2016 Army Echoes: Congress has expanded veterans’ rights in federal law in recent years; the most recent was the 2013 change which
affected the Pledge of Allegiance.
Respect for the Flag
During the raising or lowering of the flag, when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, and also during the Pledge of
Allegiance, there are different courses of action depending on your current status. In the instances mentioned above, all
uniformed personnel should render the military salute, and members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present,
but not in uniform, may also salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right
hand over their heart, or if applicable, remove their headgear with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the
hand being over their heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention.
During the National Anthem
During the playing or singing of the National Anthem, individuals in uniform should give the military salute at the first
note of the anthem and maintain that position until the last note. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are
present, but not in uniform, may also render the military salute. When the flag is not displayed, all present should face
toward the music and act in the same manner they would if the flag were displayed.
For additional information, you may refer to the following sections of United States Code (USC): Title 4 USC Section 4 “Pledge of Allegiance to the
Flag”, Title 4 USC Section 9 “Conduct During Hoisting, Lowering or Passing of the Flag”, and Title 36 USC Section 301 “National Anthem”

Response by CWO3 Bryan Luciani made Mar 29 at 2016 10:39 AM

CWO3 Bryan Luciani — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:39:55 -0400

As a retiree, I salute anyone and anything I want to. While active, I would refrain from violating what I was taught in boot camp.

Response by PFC Mike Hines made Mar 29 at 2016 11:16 AM

PFC Mike Hines — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:16:38 -0400

Why does anyone think that the salute is only "legal" for the military. Why shouldn't ANY civilian have the right to show their respect for the people that they love and may have lost in service to this country. Besides, are we really worried about someone expressing their freedom of "speech"?

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 11:25 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:25:07 -0400

I have always been taught the salute is a sign of respect. It must be given to Officers while in uniform, everything else is at your option.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 11:40 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:40:47 -0400

I do it all the time. If anyone ever tried to bust my chops over it, I would tell them in no uncertain terms what they could do with themselves...

Response by PFC Terry Schmidt made Mar 29 at 2016 11:45 AM

PFC Terry Schmidt — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:45:32 -0400

According to Veteran Affairs Veterans may Salute out of uniform.

Response by HN Kathleen M Peck made Mar 29 at 2016 12:19 PM

HN Kathleen M Peck — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:19:23 -0400

I realize people like to voice their opinion, FB, Tweet, etc and of course it's your right, but sometimes it's better not to say anything at all (I don't care it's none of my business) sounds a little heartless (to me).
But that's my opinion, oh and thank you 1SG Jason Hastings for the clarification!

Response by SMSgt Bryan Raines made Mar 29 at 2016 12:46 PM

SMSgt Bryan Raines — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 12:46:02 -0400

Strangely enough this came up in my basic training back in 1982. We were told to salute if we felt it was appropriate when not in uniform and at memorials or to honor our fallen were the examples given.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 1:32 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:32:21 -0400

It is absolutely correct as a show of respect for fallen brothers. I have done this for many years, and will continue to do so.

Response by CPO Joseph Stabley made Mar 29 at 2016 1:57 PM

CPO Joseph Stabley — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:57:36 -0400

It's all about honor and respect. If you feel inclined to salute while out of uniform, then by all means do so.

Response by PO1 Katina Pactol Baez made Mar 29 at 2016 1:59 PM

PO1 Katina Pactol Baez — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:59:18 -0400

As I recall, just before I separated in 2013, the policy was officially changed to allow for saluting in civilian clothes, though I have seen veterans & enlisted salute in civies my entire life.

Response by PO1 Donald Hammond made Mar 29 at 2016 2:02 PM

PO1 Donald Hammond — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:02:08 -0400

Is there a law that says saluting is illegal? Can a person who has never worn a uniform of any type salute? Sure. What is the problem with that? Saluting is MANDATORY for some groups but is not forbidden and shouldn't be. That would be like saying only military people can address somebody as "sir". If I want to salute, I will salute. It may not follow the protocol but nothing wrong with it.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 2:23 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:23:28 -0400

Of course you could. And I'd like to think that there aren't a lot of people that would stop someone from saluting a Fallen Warrior Memorial.

Response by MSgt D Edmonson made Mar 29 at 2016 2:25 PM

MSgt D Edmonson — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:25:30 -0400

Present the salute. The individual deserves it as a warrior in good standing.

Response by CWO4 Ray Fairman made Mar 29 at 2016 2:33 PM

CWO4 Ray Fairman — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:33:51 -0400

I know before I even paste this ALMAR in here that it will not be popular, and I will never even bring this up to another veteran, Even a Marine like me, But when the law was changed and signed, the Commandant sent and signed the following ALMAR # 052/08 and you can see the extraction below. I think personally that the Honoring of our National Colors and Fallen Comrads rates a Salute. But I put in enough time in The Corps to Obey Lawful Orders and I guess I will be a Marine for Life so while I respect the choices of others, I will have to wait until HQMC authorizes us old hard headed Jarheads to go along with our sister services to exercise my newly proclaimed priviledge. Go to it guys and salute once more for me.

CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS
Date Signed: 12/17/2008
ALMARS Active Number: 052/08
R 161950Z Dec 08
UNCLASSIFIED//
ALMAR 052/08
MSGID/GENADMIN/CMC WASHINGTON DC CMC//
SUBJ/CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS//
REF/A/DESC:DOC/CMC WASHINGTON DC/05MAY2003//
AMPN/REF A IS MCO P5060.20, MARINE CORPS DRILL AND CEREMONIES MANUAL.
//
GENTEXT/REMARKS/1. THIS ALMAR REINFORCES THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR
CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS AND AMPLIFIES THE PROVISIONS OF THE REFERENCE
FOR RENDERING SALUTES AND HONORS TO THE NATIONAL FLAG; THE PROPER
CONDUCT OF THE MARINE CORPS BIRTHDAY CAKE CUTTING CEREMONY; AND THE
PLAYING OF THE MARINES' HYMN.
2. CUSTOMS AND TRADITIONS PROVIDE A LINK TO THE PAST; THEY BOND
MARINES WHO HAVE GONE BEFORE WITH MARINES WHO WILL CARRY THE TORCH
THROUGH THE FUTURE. ANY LOSS OF TRADITION OR IMPROPER OBSERVATION
OF CUSTOM BLURS OUR IDENTITY AND WEAKENS US AS AN INSTITUTION.
THROUGH THE FAITHFUL ADHERENCE BY COMMANDERS AND EACH INDIVIDUAL
MARINE, WE PRESERVE OUR IDENTITY AND REPUTATION AS A UNIQUE AND
ELITE FIGHTING ORGANIZATION.
3. SALUTING. A RECENT CHANGE TO THE LAW HAS AUTHORIZED ACTIVE DUTY
AND RETIRED SERVICEMEMBERS TO SALUTE THE NATIONAL COLORS, WHETHER
COVERED OR UNCOVERED, INDOORS OR OUT. BY CUSTOM AND TRADITION,
MARINES DO NOT RENDER THE HAND SALUTE WHEN OUT OF UNIFORM OR WHEN
UNCOVERED. LET THERE BE NO CONFUSION; THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. DURING
THE PLAYING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, OR THE RAISING, LOWERING, OR
PASSING OF THE NATIONAL FLAG, MARINES WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW NAVAL
TRADITIONS AND THE POLICY / PROCEDURES CONTAINED IN REFERENCE (A).
SPECIFICALLY, MARINES NOT IN UNIFORM WILL FACE THE FLAG, STAND AT
ATTENTION, AND PLACE THE RIGHT HAND OVER THE HEART. IF COVERED,
MARINES NOT IN UNIFORM WILL REMOVE THEIR HEADGEAR WITH THE RIGHT
HAND AND PLACE THEIR RIGHT HAND OVER THEIR HEART. WHEN THE FLAG IS
NOT PRESENT, MARINES WILL ACT IN THE SAME MANNER WHILE FACING IN THE
DIRECTION OF THE MUSIC. IN CASES SUCH AS INDOOR CEREMONIES, WHEN
MARINES ARE IN UNIFORM AND UNCOVERED, THEY WILL FACE THE FLAG, OR
THE DIRECTION OF THE MUSIC WHEN THE FLAG IS NOT PRESENT, AND STAND
AT ATTENTION.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 3:09 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:09:43 -0400

What's stopping him from paying his respect?

Response by Lt Col Richard Neel made Mar 29 at 2016 4:11 PM

Lt Col Richard Neel — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:11:13 -0400

Active duty and Veterans can definitely salute the flag in mufti.
http://www.military.com/flag-day/rules-for-saluting-us-flag.html

Rules for Saluting US Flag

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 contained an amendment to allow un-uniformed servicemembers, military retirees, and veterans to render a hand salute during the hoisting, lowering, or passing of the U.S. flag.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Mar 29 at 2016 4:15 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:15:25 -0400

If I as a civilian and veteran want to salute to show my utmost respect, I am going to do that. To hell with others. Do it.

Response by SFC Arai Pooley made Mar 29 at 2016 4:36 PM

SFC Arai Pooley — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:36:49 -0400

Yes, regardless of the attire, a salute for the fallen is appropriate but not required. A brother unknown and gone, is still a brother. Go with your gut on this one.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 4:43 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:43:42 -0400

Once retired or post active duty, you will see veterans render different kinds of respect because we then feel unencumbered by rules and regulation --- but bound by our love and honor of our brethren and country.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2016 4:46 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:46:18 -0400

In similar manner, even though There was a time when leaders in the Marine Corps banned the use of "Semper Fi" as a greeting, I gleefully used it whenever I could/can!

Response by SPC David Hannaman made Mar 29 at 2016 5:47 PM

SPC David Hannaman — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:47:52 -0400

As a PFC (Proud F'ing Civilian) I'll salute and I dare any law saying I shouldn't to be enforced (after all we don't seem to enforce the laws that say you can't burn or step on it).

Response by SPC Brett Davidson made Mar 29 at 2016 6:23 PM

SPC Brett Davidson — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:23:59 -0400

So my understanding a fire fighter in uniform who is a veteran can do the hand salute.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Mar 29 at 2016 7:23 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 19:23:15 -0400

Yep. Do what you feel.

Response by LTC Patrick Turner made Mar 29 at 2016 8:11 PM

LTC Patrick Turner — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:11:59 -0400

All veterans, honorably discharged, would be entitled in my opinion to render honors and salute to a fallen veteran. I did this for my father when he passed.

Response by SPC Brett Davidson made Mar 29 at 2016 9:12 PM

SPC Brett Davidson — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:12:49 -0400

So my understanding, if a Fire Fighter today in his or her uniform can hand salute the flag provided he or she is a US Veteran?

Response by SPC Boyd McFail made Mar 29 at 2016 10:20 PM

SPC Boyd McFail — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:20:10 -0400

When I put on the uniform, I never really took it off, even though I don't fit in it any more.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 30 at 2016 12:13 AM

COL Charles Williams — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:13:34 -0400

Yes of course. Why wouldn't be OK?

Response by SSG Alvin Amezquita made Mar 30 at 2016 12:37 AM

SSG Alvin Amezquita — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:37:42 -0400

Once a soldier always a soldier. It don't matter law or no law, a soldier will always do his duty and respect and honor his fallen comrade.

Response by MAJ Karl Knutson made Mar 30 at 2016 1:17 AM

MAJ Karl Knutson — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 01:17:54 -0400

http://www1.va.gov/opa/pressrel/pressrelease.cfm?id=1609

News Releases - Office of Public and Intergovernmental Affairs

Provides a list and brief description of news releases issued by the Department of Veterans Affairs. Most news releases are also available as Word files to download.

Response by SGT David D. made Mar 30 at 2016 3:11 AM

SGT David D. — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 03:11:21 -0400

I left the Army in 1988, I had spent 6 1/2 years on active duty, four of those years in West Germany ( now just Germany) I was also recalled for a month during the first Gulf War. Now flash forward to 2009, a family friend, and Korean War Veteran had passed away and I took my mother to the Funeral. That funeral was the first time I had ever attended a full military funeral, the whole nine yards the flag draped coffin, Honor Guard, well you get the idea.
When the commander of the detail advised us that any Veterans present are authorized and encouraged to render a salute to Honor the deceased. It was THAT moment right there, that it hit home what it means to be a veteran. That it up to us to stand for the fallen, to honor the fallen, and most of all remember the fallen.
Before this I didn't really think all that much about saluting the flag and what not. I would remove my hat and place my hand on my heart just like everyone else of course, but I am NOT like everyone else am I? I'm VETERAN. So after that day I will ALWAYS render a salute during the National Anthem, funerals, memorials. Not only have I earned the right to do so, I OWE it to those that can no longer do so.

Response by Sgt Carlos Gonzalez made Mar 30 at 2016 8:30 AM

Sgt Carlos Gonzalez — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:30:48 -0400

It's definitely a sign of respect... I believe they've earned the right to salute a fallen comrade. Have u all never seen " Saving Private Ryan". Yes it's a movie but gosh darn it, these guys went through some serious times. And yes their is a uniform law that was passed giving the right to salute in civies.

Response by LCDR Karl Stout made Mar 30 at 2016 8:43 AM

LCDR Karl Stout — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:43:03 -0400

I sure did for my father.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 8:43 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:43:22 -0400

Regardless of if you are in uniform or not, you are never wrong in showing the respect our brothers and sisters have earned through their sacrifice. I can honestly say in 24 years, I have never run across anyone who would object.

Response by LCpl Bradley Otto made Mar 30 at 2016 8:58 AM

LCpl Bradley Otto — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:58:27 -0400

As veterans, who better to render a heart felt salute to the memories of the one who came before us. The below article deals with veterans saluting the NATIONAL ATHEM, I don't see any issues carrying over to saluting fallen comrades. Never miss an opportunity to give your thanks to a veteran, it's a small token we can give on a personal level.

WASHINGTON -- Veterans and active-duty military not in uniform can now render the military-style hand salute during the playing of the national anthem, thanks to changes in federal law that took effect this month.
“The military salute is a unique gesture of respect that marks those who have served in our nation’s armed forces,” said Secretary of Veterans Affairs Dr. James B. Peake. “This provision allows the application of that honor in all events involving our nation’s flag.”
The new provision improves upon a little known change in federal law last year that authorized veterans to render the military-style hand salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, but it did not address salutes during the national anthem. Last year’s provision also applied to members of the armed forces while not in uniform.
Traditionally, members of the nation’s veterans service organizations have rendered the hand-salute during the national anthem and at events involving the national flag while wearing their organization’s official head-gear.
The most recent change, authorizing hand-salutes during the national anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel, was sponsored by Sen. Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, an Army veteran. It was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14.
The earlier provision authorizing hand-salutes for veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag, was contained in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008, which took effect Jan. 28, 2008.

Response by SPC Frederick Kithcart made Mar 30 at 2016 9:52 AM

SPC Frederick Kithcart — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 09:52:59 -0400

I was Army during my service years but, still render a salute when I board & leave the USS Texas in La Porte, TX . Right or wrong doesn't play into it.

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 10:37 AM

LCpl Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:37:41 -0400

I tell you what, Devil. Why don't you walk up to him and tell him his salute is out of regs... Let us know how that goes for you.

I'd say he has that right about 58.479 times.

Response by SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM made Mar 30 at 2016 11:13 AM

SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:13:12 -0400

Nobody beter tell ME I couldn't salute! It is a sign and a symbol between wariors.

Response by SSgt Rusty Warner made Mar 30 at 2016 11:31 AM

SSgt Rusty Warner — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:31:37 -0400

As with many things in the military, tradition plays a major role in the why of what we do. The tradition of saluting started in medieval times, and was used by knights to identify themselves to other allied knights and as a show of respect. The knight would use his hand to raise his visor so that the other knight could see, and recognize, his face. Today we render salutes to senior ranking officers. Under the Marine Corps' 10th General Order, for all Marines, I am required to render a salute to all officers and all colors and standards not cased. Under the tradition of saluting, I may feel compelled from time to time to salute my brother or sister in arms regardless of their rank or station. As a retired Marine I know that I am still, and always will be, a Marine. As a defender of our nation I am compelled to honor and salute our fallen comrades, for they have paid the ultimate price and deserve my unwavering respect. In saluting a war memorial, I not only identify myself as a comrade and a brother to those who are represented there, but I also show respect to those men and women who have gone before me.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 11:44 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:44:17 -0400

Sure, why not. It's respect.

Response by LCpl Michael Harrell made Mar 30 at 2016 12:34 PM

LCpl Michael Harrell — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 12:34:16 -0400

Militarily speaking its not proper, however when you are paying homage to fallen friends, family or just because you want to, it is proper. I saluted during my fathers funeral taps when I wasn't in uniform. I did it because it was my duty to send him off in honor as his son!

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made Mar 30 at 2016 1:04 PM

1SG Patrick Sims — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:04:33 -0400

I do the same thing. It's a sign of respect. People who have served in the military still consider themselves Soldier, Sailors, Airmen or Marines. it's just something you will always carry around inside of you---regardless of how old you get. I'm 70---My old man is 96 and a former Army Ari Force Captain. 95 % of the American population never served in a uniform in their lives---Were members of a very exclusive club.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis Pannetta made Mar 30 at 2016 1:32 PM

SPC Sheila Lewis Pannetta — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 13:32:21 -0400

One of the first things your drill sargent says is "once a soldier always a soldier". So to answer your question, yes if a vet wants to salute he should. It's a sign of respect. I was at a dedication last month for the Gulf War memorial, All of us vets saluted. It's what we do. We give respect. We should not need a bill to pass allowing us that right. Another saying drill sargents will say "you can leave the Army/military, but the Army/military will never leave you."

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 8:39 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 20:39:46 -0400

Why is this a question? Really? Please attempt to say something to me as I pay honors to a fallen comrade. Just because he got his DD214 does not mean his watch is up.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Mar 30 at 2016 9:28 PM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:28:06 -0400

Brothers and sisters in arms, who is going to say something? There are some places that it is the only thing to do. Think about USS Arizona memorial, when Navy ships pass, they render honors. They honor the fallen. If we chastise those who would honor the dead with a salute, we dihonor the sacrifice they have made. If we dishonor the sacrifice, we strip the meaning from the memorial. If we strip the meaning from the memorial, it becomes nothing but stone and pavement. If it is just stone and pavement, it is a waste of real estate. If it is a waste of real estate, it should be torn down and re-purposed. So imagine someone saying they want to build a mall over Arlington. That person might just be beaten to death with the blueprints. Point is it is respect for those who sacrificed all by one who fortunately came home. It is a beautiful thing.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2016 10:20 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 22:20:04 -0400

We've earned the right to salute our fallen brothers and sisters.

Response by Sgt Jimmy White made Mar 30 at 2016 11:00 PM

Sgt Jimmy White — Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:00:36 -0400

Legally yes a veteran can salute, morally it has always been proper, it is a simple sign of respect. I have a 9 year old kid in my school salute me almost every day and he always gets one back. His Grandpa (a Vietnam Vet) is teaching him to respect Veterans and authority figures and I respect that and him.

Response by PO1 Pete Sikes made Mar 31 at 2016 8:40 AM

PO1 Pete Sikes — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:40:08 -0400

Law or no law, it's up to you to do as you wish.

Response by PO1 David Buckley made Mar 31 at 2016 12:37 PM

PO1 David Buckley — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:37:26 -0400

Nice to know what I've always been doing was finally authorized. I've received some looks before... pretty sure they were civilians their whole life.

Response by MSG Richard Medina made Apr 1 at 2016 10:56 AM

MSG Richard Medina — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 10:56:20 -0400

Great way of getting responses: by the way of a survey.

Response by SPC James Harsh made Apr 3 at 2016 12:27 PM

SPC James Harsh — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 12:27:42 -0400

A soldier that I knew personally was laid to rest. Both enlisted and I saluted him as a final gesture. There were guys that were still in outside as we were at the burial. They may have snickered because of what the rules are. I was nervous I planned on saluting too and when I got close and his mother offered a rose to place. I have no regret for that

Response by SGT James LeFebvre made Apr 6 at 2016 2:27 PM

SGT James LeFebvre — Wed, 06 Apr 2016 14:27:14 -0400

As others have already mentioned, I will and will continue to render a salute where I feel it is appropriate

Response by PO3 James Bobiney made Apr 10 at 2016 11:32 PM

PO3 James Bobiney — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:32:50 -0400

Last year the Father of lifelong family friends(their whole family are friends) passed away at the ripe old age of 91. He was a WW2 veteran and took part in the liberation of the Philippines as a machine gunner. I shined my combat boots nicely. My uniform does not fit properly anymore. But I wore my shined boots to represent his boots on the ground service during WW2. I wore my best veterans hat with a couple pins on it. I saluted the flag, the playing of Taps, and when they were finished presenting the flag to the family and just before everyone was about to leave. I moved forward with assertion so that people would take notice, which they did. Then I did a right face and stepped to the foot of his casket as to be looking at him face to face if he were standing upright, stood at attention and saluted. I then left the area with a swiftness as I was about to lose it. R.I.P. John
Posted in the wrong box a second ago. It is as it should be, now.
It is expected in this part of the country, and let them try and stop us.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2016 10:09 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:09:27 -0400

Rendering a salute while not in uniform is not required. However, in this case it would not be questioned. If I see my CG in civilian clothes walking around, I salute him. There may be circumstances where I would not, but be bopping around the unit area isn't one of them.

Response by TSgt Joe C. made May 27 at 2016 2:35 PM

TSgt Joe C. — Fri, 27 May 2016 14:35:02 -0400

I would!

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2016 1:16 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 May 2016 01:16:04 -0400

Heaven help the military member who would lodge a complaint against anyone who exercised the most honorable public display of affection..

Response by ENS Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 8:50 AM

ENS Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 08:50:28 -0400

Active duty and veterans are authorized to salute in civilian attire (while covered) during the National Anthem. Though, saluting officers in civilian attire is not mandated nor expected, saluting a fallen comrade or throwing up a salute as a gesture of respect may be in good taste. I haven't read anything prohibiting saluting a memorial.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2016 12:50 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Sep 2016 12:50:11 -0400

The way this question is worded leads me to believe the OP wants to salute, but doesn't want to get hemmed up for doing so.

Response by FN Charlie Spivey made Sep 15 at 2016 1:06 PM

FN Charlie Spivey — Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:06:41 -0400

Yes. I am a life member of the VFW ( also DAV ). I have participated in many VFW funerals and we do render honors. It is allowable. I have been wearing a veterans ball cap and when Colors passed or the National Anthem played, I rendered a salute. With the VFW Funerals, you are wearing one of their hats.

Response by SSgt Boyd Welch made Sep 15 at 2016 1:18 PM

SSgt Boyd Welch — Thu, 15 Sep 2016 13:18:08 -0400

A voluntary salute to me is the highest form of respect you can pay. Not because one is required but because you are honoring a fallen brother or sister. Great question and thank you for asking it.

Response by PO1 Donald Hammond made Sep 22 at 2016 2:10 PM

PO1 Donald Hammond — Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:10:02 -0400

Remember what you fought for (or at least served for). It is our freedom of expression to salute anybody at anytime we want to.

Response by Sgt Leon Williams made Sep 23 at 2016 4:36 PM

Sgt Leon Williams — Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:36:02 -0400

YES without hesitation. A very respectable thing to do in my opinion. I do at any veteran memorial.

Response by PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster made Sep 23 at 2016 11:36 PM

PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster — Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:36:09 -0400

I WILL SALUTE! If I have my ball cap on that says VETERAN-Hand Salute; if a tiara (I have been known to be in beauty pageants and win), it comes off and I salute, or i keep it on and kneel at the foot of the memorial in memory of MY Brothers and Sisters that came before me and Paid The ULTIMATE PRICE. #DAVBeauty

Response by Cpl Brian Johnston made Nov 25 at 2016 12:21 AM

Cpl Brian Johnston — Fri, 25 Nov 2016 00:21:20 -0500

When the occasion comes to salute while wearing civilian clothing, I don't cover my heart with my hand, but rather like a rifle salute at left shoulder arms without the rifle: right palm and forearm parallel to the deck, forefinger over my heart.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Apr 14 at 2017 12:45 PM

SN Greg Wright — Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:45:36 -0400

Of course you can. But, even if you couldn't, do it anyway. It's worth an ass chewing.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Apr 27 at 2017 1:29 PM

PFC Donnie Harold Harris — Thu, 27 Apr 2017 13:29:10 -0400

I do all the Time. I do it out of Respect. I saluted a Captain just the other day Going into a bank. He saluted me back. I felt Great.

Response by SFC Familia Gonzalez made May 4 at 2017 2:34 PM

SFC Familia Gonzalez — Thu, 04 May 2017 14:34:31 -0400

No. As much as I would want to, my time to render a handsalute started in 1979 and ended in 1999, when I retired. Some things are reserved just for those who are still in uniform...

Response by SSG Alvin Amezquita made May 12 at 2017 3:28 PM

SSG Alvin Amezquita — Fri, 12 May 2017 15:28:00 -0400

Ok I say this without trying to offend anybody's sensitivities. I don't give a shit if there is a law or not. If you have put on that uniform and have served in any capacity in the armed forces. Especially if you have deployed and lost brothers and sisters there is nothing wrong with rendering a salute to the fallen. I salute any Memorial or grave site of any veteran regardless of country. We have lost the tradition of saluting our comrades, allies and even our enemies. Cause we all share something in common that most don't and that is war and military service. Thank you all for your service. I salute you.

Response by SSgt Dwight Deatherage made May 13 at 2017 11:50 AM

SSgt Dwight Deatherage — Sat, 13 May 2017 11:50:43 -0400

The change the US flag code in 2007, which was attached to the Defense Approriations Bill of that year, allows all members of the military not in a uniform and all veterans to render an appropriate hand salute at times when a regular salute is called for to the flag in those types of situations I don't see any reason why you can't do something to honor the fallen friend.

Response by SSgt Dwight Deatherage made May 13 at 2017 11:51 AM

SSgt Dwight Deatherage — Sat, 13 May 2017 11:51:18 -0400

YES

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 2 at 2018 9:22 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 21:22:49 -0400

Yes

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 3 at 2018 9:35 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:35:11 -0400

By law, passed several years ago, a Veteran may render the hand salute to the National Anthem, passing the Colors, etc. Show my love, respect, Hell Yes, and would like someone to tell my I can't.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jul 27 at 2018 12:55 AM

COL Charles Williams — Fri, 27 Jul 2018 00:55:07 -0400

Yes

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Jan 11 at 2019 4:28 AM

SGT Donald Croswhite — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 04:28:36 -0500

Come on dude, what kind of question is this? Anybody who gives you grief about this, is obviously an a$$hole from birth.

Response by LTC James Washington made Mar 19 at 2019 7:31 AM

LTC James Washington — Tue, 19 Mar 2019 07:31:51 -0400

The regulations were changed several years ago to allow for veterans to render the hand salute even though not in uniform. Don’t recall whether it applies to serving in same circumstances.

Response by SFC Kevin Presser made Mar 20 at 2019 2:30 PM

SFC Kevin Presser — Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:30:38 -0400

I am a retired Army Senior NCO. My father was a retired Air Force NCO. I most definitely rendered the hand salute when taps played at his funeral. It is a matter of respect due to those that have served.

Response by PFC Lacey Burke made Mar 20 at 2019 2:39 PM

PFC Lacey Burke — Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:39:37 -0400

There's no words for saying it. But there's a gesture that conveys what can not be said.

Response by CPT Brian Halloran made Mar 21 at 2019 8:11 AM

CPT Brian Halloran — Thu, 21 Mar 2019 08:11:34 -0400

I believe regulations were relaxed a few years back to allow veterans in civvies to salute at the National Anthem when it is played. So I believe this is really a non issue.

Response by CPO Bruce Dull made Mar 21 at 2019 2:01 PM

CPO Bruce Dull — Thu, 21 Mar 2019 14:01:17 -0400

There is no law against it in either civil or the UCMJ. Retired, I am not subject to the UCMJ when not on military property.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 21 at 2019 10:50 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 21 Mar 2019 22:50:17 -0400

The AR specifies when a salute will be given & when it will not (such as inside except when reporting or during a ceremony). It does not prohibit a soldier in civilian clothes from saluting.
As previous posts mention, veterans are specifically authorized to salute the flag & during the playing of the national anthem.
There is no law prohibiting a veteran, or anyone else for that matter, from saluting. If done with respect & to honor someone, no one should object anyway.

Response by PO2 Tony Barbour made Mar 22 at 2019 9:07 AM

PO2 Tony Barbour — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 09:07:50 -0400

Who is going to enforce it??? ROFL

Response by TSgt Jim Brown made Mar 22 at 2019 11:09 AM

TSgt Jim Brown — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 11:09:45 -0400

Since I am able to salute the American Flag in color guard or during the National Anthem when I am in civvies, then I can salute to show respect to the fallen.

Response by PO3 Jim Conley made Mar 22 at 2019 1:52 PM

PO3 Jim Conley — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 13:52:37 -0400

I am responsible for raising and lowering flags at the Fallen Warriors Memorial. I salute the Memorial when I arrive and depart and to each flag once lowered to half/staff or raised to full-staff.

Response by SrA Barry Jacobs made Mar 22 at 2019 4:08 PM

SrA Barry Jacobs — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 16:08:11 -0400

SrA Barry Jacobs. We were allowed to do all of that back in the 80’s

Response by Cpl Cary Cartter made Mar 22 at 2019 4:12 PM

Cpl Cary Cartter — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 16:12:44 -0400

I ride as an escort with Patriot Guard Riders and Missing InAmerica Project. When not holding a flag, I salute at the "proper" times, even though I am not in a uniform.

When i am honored to meet living MoH personnel, I salute when introduced.

When I visit with the officers (now retired) that I served under, I salute.

You know why?

Respect.

Response by SGT Dennis Webster made Mar 22 at 2019 7:48 PM

SGT Dennis Webster — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 19:48:15 -0400

That is showing respect.

Response by SGT Mack Forgey made Mar 22 at 2019 9:07 PM

SGT Mack Forgey — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 21:07:46 -0400

I’m a combat wounded disabled veteran and I’ll render a hand salute any time I damned well please.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2019 12:22 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 00:22:09 -0400

Wouldn't be prudent to attempt to stop, or correct me. The individual would receive a significant emotional event (SEE), and be promptly dismissed.

Response by SGT Jeff Fronk made Mar 23 at 2019 12:42 AM

SGT Jeff Fronk — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 00:42:33 -0400

This is an act that has you conflicted? Really? If you can't figure it out on your own I don't think you can emotionally handle my answer.

Response by SGT Jim Jones made Mar 23 at 2019 5:24 AM

SGT Jim Jones — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 05:24:05 -0400

Every day when I go to my local Veterans Hospital for treatment, I see vets from The Persian Gulf, Afghanistan , Vietnam, Korea and World War II. These wonderful guys and gals deserve all the respect that I can give. So I will snap to attention and render a hand salute, even though I am not in uniform.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Mar 23 at 2019 9:37 AM

Cpl Mark McMiller — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:37:42 -0400

A salute is nothing more than a sign of respect and the military is not the sole authority on who can render a salute. Civilians, veteran or not, are not obliged to follow military regulations regarding saluting. Anyone who would have a problem with someone rendering a salute as a sign of respect really has too much time on their hands.

Response by SFC Derahn Thornton made Mar 23 at 2019 9:40 AM

SFC Derahn Thornton — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:40:52 -0400

I question the unit’s training schedule...the young SPC had nothing better to do

Response by Joe Lombardo made Mar 23 at 2019 9:44 AM

Joe Lombardo — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 09:44:37 -0400

Obama signed a directive(?) that allow Veterans to salute the Flag, salute at the anthem and other times such as Taps Eric.

Response by MSG Steven Myers made Mar 23 at 2019 2:16 PM

MSG Steven Myers — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:16:31 -0400

FM 22- civilian says do as you deem respectful.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2019 2:22 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:22:03 -0400

Changes to the DAA ‘09 allows AD and vets out of uniform to salute during passing/raising/lowering flag or during National Anthem (see 36 USC 31). I have done all three. But for my Marine friends, I think they haven’t adopted that change. Regardless, saluting another individual or memorial isn’t mentioned in the law. Technically it’s not approved... but let’s be honest. If a Vietnam vet or my grandfather salutes me in or out of uniform, I’m returning the salute. Just let the man(or woman) pay her respect, leave a coin, and move on.

Response by SGT Bryon Thompson made Mar 23 at 2019 2:35 PM

SGT Bryon Thompson — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:35:48 -0400

It’s an honor and a privilege to salute its earned not given

Response by PO1 Carl Collins Jr. made Mar 23 at 2019 9:40 PM

PO1 Carl Collins Jr. — Sat, 23 Mar 2019 21:40:03 -0400

Authorized by Congress.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2019 10:12 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 24 Mar 2019 10:12:42 -0400

Army had a regulation at one point authorizing salutes in civilian clothes. It was an option I have taken ever since

Response by PO1 Richard Sloniker made Mar 24 at 2019 9:58 PM

PO1 Richard Sloniker — Sun, 24 Mar 2019 21:58:39 -0400

I work in retail and a few Veterans and I salute each other.
We do get some odd looks but hey Respect!

Response by 1LT Mike Schelp made Mar 24 at 2019 10:23 PM

1LT Mike Schelp — Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:23:43 -0400

First off, it is not against ANY law to salute in civilian clothes, and is even specifically authorized at times, such as during the National Anthem. As a disabled veteran and a member of the Patriot Guard Riders, I have saluted fallen comrades on numerous occasions.

Response by SPC Paul Davis made Mar 24 at 2019 10:36 PM

SPC Paul Davis — Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:36:24 -0400

I salute the Flag and will salute the fallen.
There's been times it has inspired other VETERANS to do the same.I have the Highest respect to my military brother & sisters. .

Response by PFC Ray Gibb made Mar 24 at 2019 10:40 PM

PFC Ray Gibb — Sun, 24 Mar 2019 22:40:37 -0400

It was brought to my attention that it is ok. It is up to the individual.

Response by SFC George “Bones” Small made Mar 25 at 2019 6:58 AM

SFC George “Bones” Small — Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:58:49 -0400

If you're retired it's not illegal to salute in civies, in fact I wish more people knew Congress passed a bill over a decade back in which we were given the right to continue saluting as if we were still wearing the uniform. You can spot in a crowd how many retired service members know this in their saluting the colors, and when Taps is played at funerals and ceremonial memorials. I wish the services would include such information in their mandatory retirement briefings we used to get within six months of us ending our uniform service. These sayings, "Once a Marine always a Marine," and "Forever a Soldier," mean more when we all show continued military customs and courtesies in public.

Response by Emile Sanchez made Mar 25 at 2019 11:50 AM

Emile Sanchez — Mon, 25 Mar 2019 11:50:42 -0400

If he or she is a fallen warrior, then they have earned that salute! It matters whether you're in your dress uniform or a homeless person a few days out from their last shower, respect transcends it all.

Response by SFC Leroy Williams made Mar 25 at 2019 1:02 PM

SFC Leroy Williams — Mon, 25 Mar 2019 13:02:32 -0400

If he was a retired soldier, according to current AR, he is authorized to salute at any time a on duty soldier is authorized.

Response by SPC Kevan W. made Mar 26 at 2019 4:26 AM

SPC Kevan W. — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 04:26:10 -0400

Additionally, prior to leaving office G.W. Bush signed into law that prior military could render military salutes.

Response by SSgt Larry Melby made Mar 26 at 2019 5:30 PM

SSgt Larry Melby — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 17:30:00 -0400

I do it any time that it would be an appropriate setting, i did it when my mother's cousin (a retired BG) out at DFW National,

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Mar 26 at 2019 6:08 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 18:08:28 -0400

They're civilians. They can render honors via interpretive dance if they want. Salutes, bowing, curtsies, poetry recital, the options are limited only by the law.

Response by SPC Clayton Ellzey made Mar 26 at 2019 6:21 PM

SPC Clayton Ellzey — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 18:21:17 -0400

I dare a SOB. To try and stop me

Response by Lt Col Paul Gacke made Mar 26 at 2019 9:01 PM

Lt Col Paul Gacke — Tue, 26 Mar 2019 21:01:42 -0400

I understand that the military instills correctness in all of us but let’s not forget that these are MINIMUM standards and we should remember the basic premise behind the regulation to salute is one of respect. With that in mind, I don’t really care if anyone thinks they need a rule or regulation allowing me to salute in civilian clothes as a veteran or as a civilian. I will salute the flag when it passes before me indoors or out. I will do the same for a fallen comrade inside or out and I will salute their tombstone while in civilian clothes. Respect does not have any boundaries but there are minimum requirements that should be followed so if we want to debate when to salute, keep the discussion on the minimum requirements and don’t dare approach me for showing respect above and beyond the minimum requirement.

Response by MAJ John Douglas made Mar 27 at 2019 2:51 PM

MAJ John Douglas — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 14:51:33 -0400

Of course we can salute in civilian clothes. When I attend University of Georgia football games in Athens, the pa announcer encourages soldiers and veterans to salute the national anthem. Please do salute!

Response by PO1 Tom Follis made Mar 27 at 2019 8:20 PM

PO1 Tom Follis — Wed, 27 Mar 2019 20:20:33 -0400

The law says we are authorized. I can, I do. It’s out of respect. If you don’t respect your fallen brothers, what do you respect?

Response by SSG Marshall Paul made Mar 28 at 2019 2:46 PM

SSG Marshall Paul — Thu, 28 Mar 2019 14:46:23 -0400

I don't need the government or anybody else to tell me when or how to salute.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Mar 29 at 2019 11:47 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Fri, 29 Mar 2019 23:47:25 -0400

Where I was in covilian clothes or not, I have always rendered a hand salute at retreats, raising of the flag, fuenerals for veterans, memorial services, etc. I am a veteran, I will pay my respects, for it is the honorable thing to do. Some may say I'm unprofessional, but as an Air Commando, I have never been accused of being a professional.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Mar 31 at 2019 12:41 PM

1SG James Kelly — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 12:41:39 -0400

And just who in hell is going to stop me?

Response by MAJ Tom McCuin made Mar 31 at 2019 1:37 PM

MAJ Tom McCuin — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 13:37:34 -0400

IWhen in doubt, whip it out. Better to be corrected for saluting when you shouldn’t than to be corrected for not saluting when you should have. That said, laws that authorize salutes in civilian clothes do not require it.

Response by SGT Scott Henderson made Mar 31 at 2019 3:31 PM

SGT Scott Henderson — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 15:31:19 -0400

I don't care of you're butt naked. If you feel compelled to show your respect do it. Why you're there with no clothes I'd your business.

Response by SPC Jackson Stevens made Mar 31 at 2019 5:33 PM

SPC Jackson Stevens — Sun, 31 Mar 2019 17:33:01 -0400

I am an OTR Truck Driver. I was exiting a truckstop building where a large NG Convey had stopped. A Major was walking towards me. I presented my best salute and a crisp, “Good afternoon l, sir!” He was momentarily puzzled, but quickly responded with a courteous salute, a fantastic smile and “good afternoon, sir.” As I’ve been off of AD for years, he had no way of knowing I was just an E-4. However, I like to think I made his day, a lot more than my customary Thank You for your Service.

Response by Cpl Steve Mincey made Apr 1 at 2019 11:56 AM

Cpl Steve Mincey — Mon, 01 Apr 2019 11:56:50 -0400

Im all for it i do it

Response by ENS Matthew Fleming made Apr 5 at 2019 11:16 PM

ENS Matthew Fleming — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 23:16:59 -0400

Sorry. Protocol may say one thing. Try and stop me if the Spirit moves.

Response by PO2 Bill Leavelle made Apr 6 at 2019 3:16 PM

PO2 Bill Leavelle — Sat, 06 Apr 2019 15:16:17 -0400

why not...….total respect & people would know where you come from...…….if it's against the law....what can they do?...….they don't do crap to flag burners...

Response by SSG James N. made Apr 7 at 2019 9:32 AM

SSG James N. — Sun, 07 Apr 2019 09:32:43 -0400

Veteran's and active military are trained to salute in certain situations. It is very close to automatic. Watching people try so hard NOT to salute when their ingrained behavior said to was painful as a NCO. When they passed teh law, then made it better so any veteran in civilian attire could salute, that was a good thing.
DO it. Pay the respects you know are teh right way to pay. If someone says something, look them directly in the eyes, long and hard, make them cower, then walk away. I guarantee even the hardest young GI, vet, or civilian will cower, or at least defer with recognition

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2019 10:20 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 12 Apr 2019 10:20:06 -0400

Anyone can salute any thing at any time.

Response by LTC Peter Hartman made May 5 at 2019 1:49 PM

LTC Peter Hartman — Sun, 05 May 2019 13:49:13 -0400

I didn't know about the authorization to salute in civilian clothes but I would out of habit.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made May 21 at 2019 9:01 AM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Tue, 21 May 2019 09:01:38 -0400

You obviously sound like you haven't lost anyone yet... learn some fucking respect man. We honor and salute any who are no longer with us, with a hand salute. WTF are they not teaching in basic these days? Where is your team leader, they need to square you away

Response by SPC Brian Mason made May 24 at 2019 12:44 AM

SPC Brian Mason — Fri, 24 May 2019 00:44:01 -0400

Of course. We've had a couple of fallen military members come home and while the procession was going down the street, I and others did it in civis. Likely, they are veterans as well. It would be stupid to appoint some 'police' to stop us.

Response by SGT Jossie Andino-Vistins made May 29 at 2019 7:38 AM

SGT Jossie Andino-Vistins — Wed, 29 May 2019 07:38:38 -0400

If you have to ask apparently you’re unaware of the the amendment. But yes you can.

Response by SPC Deborah Root-White made Jun 13 at 2019 9:50 PM

SPC Deborah Root-White — Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:50:59 -0400

Absolutely yes!!

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Jun 19 at 2019 3:24 AM

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter — Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:24:29 -0400

I don't see any problem showing respect to a fallen warrior with a salute. How is showing respect ever a problem ?

Response by PO1 Robert George made Jun 24 at 2019 12:23 AM

PO1 Robert George — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:23:49 -0400

Show respect in which ever way you choose.

Response by SGT Josh Johnson made Jun 25 at 2019 4:59 PM

SGT Josh Johnson — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:59:29 -0400

It is my opinion, that as a veteran, you arw no longer held to the regulations of the military. Veterans know how to give a proper salute, so I say, that if a salute feels right, then do it. Alternatively, you should not feel compelled to salute, if it doesnt seem appropriate. Saluting a fallen comrade, to me, would feel right, no matter what. I salute Old Glory, when it passes by in a parade. I remove my headgear, in respect, when entering a building, or when a solemn occasion seems to deserve that respect. When the Pledge of Allegiance is played, while inside the VA medical Center, I stand and put my hand over my heart, but if I were outside, I wouod salute, even without a uniform. It just seems appropriate, and so i pay my respects in a manner that is comfortable to me.

Response by SGT Debra Jahnel made Jun 28 at 2019 3:39 PM

SGT Debra Jahnel — Fri, 28 Jun 2019 15:39:53 -0400

In civilian clothes, you also salute a veteran's body in a funeral procession, if you want - otherwise, hand over your heart is acceptable.

Response by COL Rich McKinney made Jul 7 at 2019 2:59 PM

COL Rich McKinney — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 14:59:37 -0400

I am very familiar with this one. It was proposed as a stand alone bill I've 2007.
I wrote my Congresswoman about it. She said she would vote No. She said " because someone might get confrused"

Response by SSG Richard Williams made Jul 21 at 2019 1:28 AM

SSG Richard Williams — Sun, 21 Jul 2019 01:28:54 -0400

A memorial for Vietnam fallen soldiers was recently erected in my hometown of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. I always feel compelled to salute.

Response by SGT Donald Croswhite made Jul 22 at 2019 2:53 AM

SGT Donald Croswhite — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 02:53:56 -0400

Delete this question.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 22 at 2019 6:54 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Aug 2019 18:54:13 -0400

It's all about respect for each other doing our job for our country in contract or not.

Response by SGT Lewis Ray Rains made Aug 30 at 2019 2:49 PM

SGT Lewis Ray Rains — Fri, 30 Aug 2019 14:49:48 -0400

Homering our Fallen Brothers & Sister's should ALWAYS be Shown & Respected, no matter the rules! THEY SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN, for any reason!!!

Response by SPC Fred Scholl made Sep 11 at 2019 12:29 PM

SPC Fred Scholl — Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:29:13 -0400

It is not against the law for anyone to salute anything they want.

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made Sep 29 at 2019 10:17 PM

SPC Ron Salsbury — Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:17:42 -0400

The Government really did not need to pass this law in the first place, most people like me could not really care what most would think; serving my country in war earned me that right to salute anytime I damn well feel like it, uniform or not! On Veterans and Memorial day, some restaurants put out a missing service members table with a bible; I will even put my three coins snapping a swift, crisp salute before leaving that table as well for my fallen brothers to be remembered. I get a lot of looks by some, but those who have served, give a nod of approval every time.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Oct 6 at 2019 9:52 PM

1SG James Kelly — Sun, 06 Oct 2019 21:52:08 -0400

I will and who the hell is going to tell I can't?
I did it in the last century.

Response by MSG Bob Metz made Oct 7 at 2019 5:02 PM

MSG Bob Metz — Mon, 07 Oct 2019 17:02:29 -0400

It is both proper and legal...

Response by CCMSgt Joe Dehorty made Oct 8 at 2019 10:31 AM

CCMSgt Joe Dehorty — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 10:31:39 -0400

A lot of veterans are unaware of the change. Whenever possible, I try to make them aware!

Response by SCPO Lonny Randolph made Oct 8 at 2019 1:37 PM

SCPO Lonny Randolph — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 13:37:03 -0400

I wear a hat most of the time when I am outside in any case (getting kinda sparse topside) - regardless I SALUTE for colors and such and I SALUTE at other times that I would have done when I was on active duty. If I salute at my father's grave or at a memorial and someone objects I have another salute I can render to them. In my opinion, whether if follows regulations or not, a hand salute properly rendered by a veteran or a retiree is perfectly appropriate. Civilians who have not served can do whatever it is they do.

Response by SGT Scott Henderson made Oct 8 at 2019 7:21 PM

SGT Scott Henderson — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 19:21:25 -0400

A better question would be what kind of dipshit, brain dead, jerkoff, fuckhead would stop them?

Response by PO3 Tom Leibold made Oct 8 at 2019 9:26 PM

PO3 Tom Leibold — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 21:26:06 -0400

No brainier.. if in doubt hand salute. In Boot camp remember..lol

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2019 11:02 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Oct 2019 11:02:47 -0400

YES, absolutely. Even veterans can also!

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Oct 11 at 2019 7:19 PM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Fri, 11 Oct 2019 19:19:55 -0400

I've seen many do that, in many different circumstances, honest, over a fairly long period....

Response by LTC Ken Connolly made Oct 11 at 2019 9:42 PM

LTC Ken Connolly — Fri, 11 Oct 2019 21:42:19 -0400

Most definitely. Retired military should tool

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2019 9:12 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Oct 2019 09:12:01 -0400

Well honestly I don't give a shit what Congress says I can and can't do when it comes to my flag and honoring my brothers and sisters!

Response by SPC Martin Kamm made Oct 12 at 2019 9:16 AM

SPC Martin Kamm — Sat, 12 Oct 2019 09:16:15 -0400

I, for one, would not have any problem with anyone showing respect for those who have gone double-timing over the horizon with a hand salute.

Response by 1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel made Oct 12 at 2019 9:57 AM

1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel — Sat, 12 Oct 2019 09:57:37 -0400

When I do this I routinely get “thanks for your service” comments. As I commented elsewhere, I salute in my pastoral vestments when I preside at funerals for vets.

Response by PO3 John Jeter made Oct 13 at 2019 4:22 AM

PO3 John Jeter — Sun, 13 Oct 2019 04:22:48 -0400

On occasion, my fellow Patriot Guard Riders and I will visit local cemeteries on appropriate days and render honors through the playing of Taps and presenting salutes to all of our honored dead. Some of us pass through the rows, leaving pennies on the headstones to show they are not forgotten. I would not like to be the person who attempted to interfere with these activities. Paying respect is never wrong.

Response by Sharon Sullivan made Oct 13 at 2019 10:39 PM

Sharon Sullivan — Sun, 13 Oct 2019 22:39:58 -0400

My husband is a Vietnam Vet, along with past and present members of my family and friends who have and are serving. I believe serving their country gives them the right to salute rather if they are or aren't in uniform. Thankyou all for your services.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2019 9:40 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Oct 2019 09:40:07 -0400

Pretty sure that saluting by civilians is not illegal as such an act would be a first amendment right. However, if you want to avoid glares from veterans, I suggest you learn how to properly render one (most military movies get it wrong, so don't use a movie as your source).

Response by SSG James Paris made Oct 14 at 2019 1:57 PM

SSG James Paris — Mon, 14 Oct 2019 13:57:13 -0400

I always render a Salute when visiting a War Memorial or attending the funeral of a fellow veteran. I feel that I and they have earned the right to salute and be saluted as a finial show of respect for their service to the Nation.

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Oct 14 at 2019 4:56 PM

SrA Ronald Moore — Mon, 14 Oct 2019 16:56:33 -0400

I vaguely recall if I as an veteran was in civilian clothes, I would put my right hand over my heart/ left upper shoulder , this would be my salute.

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Oct 16 at 2019 3:08 PM

MSgt Michael Smith — Wed, 16 Oct 2019 15:08:00 -0400

Anyone in civilian clothes can salute anything they want to.

Response by SGT James Murphy made Oct 20 at 2019 12:12 PM

SGT James Murphy — Sun, 20 Oct 2019 12:12:17 -0400

This has been the way since there have been Military to salute fallen comrades. That this question is posted gives be great pause though...

Response by PO3 Lynn Spalding made Nov 12 at 2019 4:17 PM

PO3 Lynn Spalding — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:17:31 -0500

Damn right it is appropriate for Veterans to render a salute.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 12 at 2019 7:38 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 19:38:55 -0500

Absolutely you may, as others have already stated. And thank you for letting me know about this memorial. It's definitely close enough for me to visit.

Response by HN Rick Strul made Nov 14 at 2019 2:58 AM

HN Rick Strul — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 02:58:07 -0500

Completely legal. It is protected speech .

Response by LTC John Griscom made Dec 3 at 2019 9:33 AM

LTC John Griscom — Tue, 03 Dec 2019 09:33:25 -0500

An honorable sign of respect to a brother-in-arms. Never incorrect.
It's interesting that we need a law to approve showing respect to our nation, flag and comrades.

Response by LTC John Griscom made Dec 3 at 2019 9:39 AM

LTC John Griscom — Tue, 03 Dec 2019 09:39:09 -0500

We have to have a law for showing respect to our Flag, but different laws say someone can burn or otherwise disrespect it???

Response by SP5 Cecil Palmiter made Dec 7 at 2019 7:28 PM

SP5 Cecil Palmiter — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 19:28:11 -0500

You are a civilian. Do as you please.

Response by SP5 Cecil Palmiter made Dec 7 at 2019 7:32 PM

SP5 Cecil Palmiter — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 19:32:35 -0500

When at an event and the anthem is playing its now OK for bets to salute. I like that. But, would you take your cap off? I left it on because I know of no situation where a cover is removed to salute.

Response by LtCol Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 15 at 2019 2:41 PM

LtCol Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Dec 2019 14:41:41 -0500

For the Marines, ALMAR 052/08 gives some guidance, specifically paragraph 3. "...By custom and tradition, Marines do not render the hand salute when Out of uniform or when uncovered. Let there be no confusion; that has not changed...".

Having said that, it would be beyond my comprehension that anyone would take exception to a sincere gesture of respect and gratitude.

Response by PO3 Larry Nobles made Dec 16 at 2019 5:30 PM

PO3 Larry Nobles — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 17:30:35 -0500

For Veterans the hand salute is authorized: http://www.gmasw.com/salute.htm

Retirees and Vets Allowed to Salute US Flag

Response by SGT Wayne Smith made Dec 27 at 2019 12:26 AM

SGT Wayne Smith — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 00:26:28 -0500

I have been to The Moving Wall Vietnam Memorial a few times, and you can damn well be sure that when I saw the names of my fallen Comrades, I saluted with tears running down my face. I will salute the Flag and National Anthem every time. Let some overpaid, unpatriotic athlete kneel if they don't have what it takes to be a true American. As for me, I salute with pride!!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2020 6:46 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jan 2020 18:46:23 -0500

As a veteran, in civilian clothing, we are also authorized to salute during the National Anthem. So why not salute a fallen comrade who help defend this free country? I will salute if I feel the situation warrants my respect for a sacrifice!

Response by SPC Donn Sinclair made Jan 13 at 2020 7:01 AM

SPC Donn Sinclair — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:01:43 -0500

The VSM in my ribbon rack says I can salute any time I want.

Response by SSgt Paul Parish made Jan 13 at 2020 8:33 AM

SSgt Paul Parish — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 08:33:03 -0500

Response by SPC William Szkromiuk made Jan 13 at 2020 1:22 PM

SPC William Szkromiuk — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 13:22:14 -0500

Of course! I will do it only while wearing a cap that identifies me as a Veteran. Other wise I hold my hand over my heart. Just my thing.
We have a Memorial Day Parade every year at my local town. All the Vets will stand and salute when Old Glory passes by. I am surprised that most civilians don't get up. My favorite part is when the VFW and American Legion floats go by. The Vets riding on the float will search the crowd for other Vets and will render a personal salute to those in the crowd. I always try to give them my best in return!

Response by SFC Michael D. made Jan 13 at 2020 6:35 PM

SFC Michael D. — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:35:11 -0500

I salute for the national anthem when in civilian clothes. No one has ever said anything to me for it. It's my choice and out of respect for all who have died for it or served it.

Response by SPC Joshua Bender made Jan 14 at 2020 6:59 AM

SPC Joshua Bender — Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:59:28 -0500

The last thing I said to my Grandfather as he passed away, was "Godspeed Sir." I went to attention and rendered my salute. He was an Airforce Veteran. I was not in uniform, though I was still in the Army reserves at the time. I considered it not only appropriate, but my duty to honor him.
That is the only time I've ever rendered a salute out of uniform. Other than during the Reviell or Retreat on a military installation or during the playing of the national anthem. I understand that some people are picky about regulations, but in the end, the salute is a military honor, given out of respect. It's a tribute, not just something given within regulations.

Response by SFC Bryan Livasy made Jan 14 at 2020 4:38 PM

SFC Bryan Livasy — Tue, 14 Jan 2020 16:38:57 -0500

Since the dust was blown off this old thread and that particular Memorial is in my area gotta respond,

Got to that memorial every Veterans Day and Memorial Day for the last 3 years, I Salute my fallen Brothers and Sisters in Arms

Life is Fleeting
Separation Temporary
Reunion Eternal

Don't much care if it Bothers folk I do it

32 years in Uncle Sugars Flying Circus and Damn well earned the Honor

Haole

Response by SGT Holly Johnston made Jan 14 at 2020 5:46 PM

SGT Holly Johnston — Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:46:04 -0500

Yes

Response by GySgt Douglas Dare made Jan 15 at 2020 12:36 PM

GySgt Douglas Dare — Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:36:11 -0500

We have earned the priviledge to Salute a fallen brother/sister. I can no longer fit into my uniforms do to injuries and illness so I wil SALUTE and show my LOVE and RESPECT for my brothers/sisters.

Response by SFC Sam Koutouzakis made Jan 16 at 2020 11:48 PM

SFC Sam Koutouzakis — Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:48:31 -0500

I am a retiree of 20 years service to this country and the U.S. Army. I salute each and every time I damn well feel like it and dare any SoB to stop me.

Response by Louis Williams made Jan 19 at 2020 10:54 AM

Louis Williams — Sun, 19 Jan 2020 10:54:47 -0500

President John F. Kennedy's Son answered that question for everybody when he saluted the flag that draped his Father's coffin as it passed and no one told John,Jr. to do that. Was not the President of The United States a fallen warrior too?

Response by SPC Russ Bolton made Jan 19 at 2020 11:59 PM

SPC Russ Bolton — Sun, 19 Jan 2020 23:59:42 -0500

Once a soldier always a soldier. Once taking the oath it never expires. Be blessed

Response by SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez made Jan 20 at 2020 12:41 AM

SPC Melanie Vancegonzalez — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 00:41:06 -0500

I grew up in a military family, raised around a military post, and served in the military myself and I have always seen veterans salute the fallen no matter what the laws say. It is a show of respect for those who served their country, especially those who made the ultimate sacrifice. It is something that is lacking in today's society. People are forgetting and not being taught where their freedom really came from.

Response by TSgt Robert Wayne made Jan 20 at 2020 12:49 AM

TSgt Robert Wayne — Mon, 20 Jan 2020 00:49:25 -0500

It's a show of respect. Doesn't matter if someone passed a rule that says we shouldn't. Who's going to stop me?

Response by SPC Richard Zacke made Jan 30 at 2020 7:40 PM

SPC Richard Zacke — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:40:57 -0500

ABSOLUTELY!!! "Enough said!"

Response by BG Gary Jones made Feb 9 at 2020 7:58 PM

BG Gary Jones — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 19:58:28 -0500

Who would ever complain about a military or former military who chose to show respect in a manner recognized by all military personnel? A salute is a mark of respect.

Response by GySgt Thomas Lieb made Feb 10 at 2020 6:19 PM

GySgt Thomas Lieb — Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:19:58 -0500

Since 2009 it has been regulation that covered veterans (wearing head gear) May officially render hand salute for the approprate rite or ceremony

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Feb 12 at 2020 12:27 AM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Wed, 12 Feb 2020 00:27:36 -0500

I cheated the authorization acts by nearly a decade. Somply because as a veteran, I felt it right to respect the fallen, the national anthem and fellow veterans ( who were general officers, even tho we were retired). Some times those vets would return a finger in a joking attitude.

Response by PO2 John Driskill made Feb 12 at 2020 2:45 PM

PO2 John Driskill — Wed, 12 Feb 2020 14:45:56 -0500

A salute is a sign of respect. Dates back to knights raising their helmet visors to other knights. If you don't want to salute, put your right hand across your heart.

Response by Cpl Brian Escobar made Feb 20 at 2020 1:12 PM

Cpl Brian Escobar — Thu, 20 Feb 2020 13:12:36 -0500

As a school teacher and Marine Combat Veteran of The Gulf War - Somalia Era...Im faced with this issue everyday with the Pledge. I have students from all over the world in my class. I tell them at the start of each school year THAT THEY WILL AT THE VERY LEAST STAND IN SILENCE AND RESPECT FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AS A BASIC COURTESY TO OUR COUNTRY [which is more than I can say for the majority of my fellow teachers that are either too lazy or indifferent to enforce this common courtesy]. MY REASONS: This is what they can expect of me when I'm a guest in their country....For my part I'll never judge or hold in contempt any Veteran who wants to salute...Regardless of any Act or Law. I'll do as my Commander in Chief does, hold my hand to my heart and say the pledge or sing the National Anthem, as this to me has greater meaning, reverence, and respect for The Fallen, My God, My Family, and this GREAT REPUBLIC...

Response by PO3 Rich Dye made Feb 23 at 2020 2:19 PM

PO3 Rich Dye — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 14:19:16 -0500

I wear a hat 99% of the time. I always salute during the national anthem or any public gathering were colors are presented and even just walking down the street if I pass a flag. Ialso salute memorials to veterans honoring the fallen. I appreciate the fact it is "legal" to do so very much. But frankly, it is a matter of honor and respect, legal or not! I am more than happy to explain to someone protesting the action to keep their uneducated opinion to themselves!

Response by SSG Tom Montgomery made Feb 24 at 2020 12:35 AM

SSG Tom Montgomery — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 00:35:18 -0500

A B S O L U T E L Y!

Response by AA Bob Porter made Feb 25 at 2020 8:50 AM

AA Bob Porter — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 08:50:15 -0500

When I pass all glory flying in the wind I often will salute even without a cover.

Response by SPC Harry Cross made Feb 25 at 2020 8:00 PM

SPC Harry Cross — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 20:00:17 -0500

According to the chef of state,(military) an x- soldier under cap can salute the flag and the Departed!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 9 at 2020 8:16 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 Mar 2020 08:16:45 -0400

Hell yes it is appropriate. Being a Soldier is who you are, not what you do.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 13 at 2020 9:01 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 Mar 2020 21:01:12 -0400

I'll salute if I damn well please.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 15 at 2020 7:56 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Mar 2020 19:56:44 -0400

Regulations show when a salute is required. I know none that say when one is prohibited.

Response by Maj Scott Kiger, M.A.S. made Mar 27 at 2020 4:57 PM

Maj Scott Kiger, M.A.S. — Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:57:29 -0400

In civilian clothes you can salute whatever the hell you want. You can salute the flag during a parade and if covered no matter what the hat style I am wearing I DO! You can salute the beer on the bar as its served to you and you can salute a beautiful women who happens to be your wife if you are feeling in the mood. DAMN SKIPPY you better salute any memorial to fallen veterans no matter what you are wearing. As a Marine I would prefer you to be covered wearing a hat but if your not WHIP IT OUT, Sharply and proudly!

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Mar 29 at 2020 3:28 PM

1SG Brian Adams — Sun, 29 Mar 2020 15:28:08 -0400

Sure, why not...no harm ?

Response by SPC David Cooper made Apr 7 at 2020 12:02 PM

SPC David Cooper — Tue, 07 Apr 2020 12:02:19 -0400

yes

Response by SGM Aj Johnson made Apr 12 at 2020 11:15 AM

SGM Aj Johnson — Sun, 12 Apr 2020 11:15:51 -0400

I'm retired, I will salute whenever I damn well please, be stupid and think that CAC gives you the power to say something stupid to me.

Response by LTC Philip Marlowe made Apr 13 at 2020 12:27 AM

LTC Philip Marlowe — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 00:27:39 -0400

You know, here how it goes. I'm and many of you are retired. We're not subject to 'rules' per se. If I think a salute is warranted, I'm going to salute - period. I've been around almost 70 years and - frankly - I don't care about 'rules' anymore so much as how I think I should respond to a given situation. I'll salute the flag, I'll salute a fallen hero, I'll salute during the National Anthem and could CARE LESS what anyone else has to say about it. Short story about a recent incident - hell, I was walking down a sidewalk a few months ago and from about 60 feet I addressed a 'young man' to say good morning - HOWEVER, and much to my surprise, when I got within 10 feet I noticed he had a STAR...I saluted - period. Out of respect and simply 'tradition' of subordinate to SENIOR to demonstrate I respect his rank and he returned it. There were no 'rules' it just seemed the right thing to do..and frankly, sometimes SALUTING just IS the right thing to do.

Response by SGT Forrest Fitzrandolph made Apr 13 at 2020 1:35 AM

SGT Forrest Fitzrandolph — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 01:35:05 -0400

I have been out of uniform for many years and was very thankful when the resolution was passed allowing out of service members to salute at memorials, the flag, and the National Anthem!!

Response by SPC Thomas Smith made Apr 13 at 2020 9:43 AM

SPC Thomas Smith — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 09:43:43 -0400

It's one of the highest forms of respect. And while I don't know if it's legal or not I always salute those I have respect for. So if it's against a law guess they better arrest me

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 13 at 2020 11:11 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:11:33 -0400

This is one of those things were common sense comes into play. Don't be that person that over thinks everything. This is a none issue and should of never been brought up.

Response by TSgt Lars Eilenfeld made Apr 13 at 2020 3:07 PM

TSgt Lars Eilenfeld — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 15:07:12 -0400

Yes your a Veteran you earned that right to salute. If you think it's appropriate then it's appropriate, if someone calls you out on it tell them to pound sand

Response by SGT Bob Knox made Apr 14 at 2020 9:13 AM

SGT Bob Knox — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 09:13:24 -0400

It's all about honor. I got a buddy that died on the gun truck back in 2004 everytime I seen the flag I'm reminded of him and I throw a quick salute his name was Brandon Micheal Reed an awesome dude.

Response by PO2 Paul Dempsey made Apr 14 at 2020 11:45 AM

PO2 Paul Dempsey — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 11:45:34 -0400

It's a sign of respect to fallen comrades. Regulation approved or not. I am okay with it. When I visit my father's grave a veteran of WW II, Korea and Vietnam who earned a purple heart, combat infantry badge and to many other medals to list. I salute him out of love and respect. I wouldnt suggest someone telling me that's not proper or regulation.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Apr 14 at 2020 8:05 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 20:05:38 -0400

I think there is some missing context.

The gentlemen you observed is a veteran. Ultimately he can do what he wants.
Additional context, he is more than likely a member of DAV, VFW, American Legion or all the above. The reason that’s important is that those organizations encourage saluting when appropriate regardless of attire.

Response by FA Jackie Schlageter made Apr 15 at 2020 3:56 PM

FA Jackie Schlageter — Wed, 15 Apr 2020 15:56:17 -0400

I am a Navy Wave disabled Veteran 100% NSC and when I see men in military gear I like to thank them and salute them for what they are doing. When I was in Service I never left the US but still got called a baby killer. Big difference between the 1970's and now.

Response by SFC William Hannon made Apr 15 at 2020 8:23 PM

SFC William Hannon — Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:23:14 -0400

I can't imagine someone would stop you. Do as your heart desires. Personally, I would Salute.

Response by SPC Virginia Vargo made Apr 17 at 2020 1:53 PM

SPC Virginia Vargo — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:53:32 -0400

There will never be too many patriotic veterans. I breathed asbestos during my peacetime tour and you're telling me not to salute?

Response by SSG Chris Allsopp made Apr 17 at 2020 1:54 PM

SSG Chris Allsopp — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:54:56 -0400

You are absolutely allowed to render a salute. I will render a salute anytime, anywhere towards memorials, just make sure it is a clean and proper salute.

Response by PO2 Michael Lee made Apr 18 at 2020 8:17 AM

PO2 Michael Lee — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:17:58 -0400

I always salute the flag at colors or parades etc I'm a navy nam vet it's a show of respect I no longer wear the uniform but I still follow military standards and regulation in dress and the way I conduct myself thank you ADJ 2 Michael J Lee

Response by CSM Richard Montcalm made Apr 18 at 2020 5:01 PM

CSM Richard Montcalm — Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:01:46 -0400

I don't need a NDA to tell what the right thing t do is. The fact that some bureaucrat thought that this needed to be addressed shows how out of touch the Pentagon is with the folks with dirty boots. I have ALWAYS rendered a salute when a funeral motorcade with a American flag draped coffin is in the back. n fact, I did it this afternoon when out running errands. Who ever he or she was, they did something that 99% of this country's people haven't or WON'T do- serve their fellow Americans. When an American raises his or her right hand and takes the oath of enlistment or commission, they are writing a check to the people of the United Sates that reads "Up to and including my life if need be". If you are reading this then you are most likely one of those people- think about that statement for a minute then think about how the last 2 wars have been 360 degree 2 way ranges with no front lines. No matter what you do, infantryman, sailor, cook, mechanic, pilot, or clerk, we ALL took the same oath and all bear the same responsibilities. God Bless you ALL and thanks for your service! Lesser men and women sleep sound at night because there are rough men (and woman) prepared to do violence in their behalf.

Response by CPO Kim Hanthorn made Apr 19 at 2020 9:56 PM

CPO Kim Hanthorn — Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:56:38 -0400

I don’t need the Government’s or anyone else’s permission to to salute any one or any thing I want too. I am a honorably discharges and retired Navy Chief Petty Officer. I will show RESPECT when I feel it’s appropriate, and I will challenge any one who would argue different. Your a Veteran of the WORLDS GREATEST MILITARY!!!! GROW SOME BALL AND ACT LIKE IT.

Response by MSgt Don Dobbs made Apr 24 at 2020 10:30 AM

MSgt Don Dobbs — Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:30:46 -0400

I personally saluted the flag and fellow veterans before some civilian (Congressman) told me it was OK. We have earned the right by our service to this nation and our willingness to give our lives in it's defense.

Response by MAJ Sean Fay made Apr 26 at 2020 11:31 PM

MAJ Sean Fay — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 23:31:56 -0400

A salute is a gesture of respect. A salute when it is not required is a gesture of heartfelt respect.

There would be a suboptimal outcome if some weenie decided to inform me that he felt my gesture of respect was against the rules, regulations, or his personal impression of propriety.

Response by PO2 Jim Branigan made Apr 28 at 2020 10:23 PM

PO2 Jim Branigan — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 22:23:25 -0400

When the national anthem is played it is appropriate for you to salute. It signifies you are a veteran.

Response by SSG Brian Carpenter made May 4 at 2020 11:02 AM

SSG Brian Carpenter — Mon, 04 May 2020 11:02:14 -0400

Yes. It is not exact etiquette but as a Veteran in civilian clothes I can pretty much do whatever I want when it comes to customs and courtesies. Whose gonna tell me different? BWAHAHAHAHA I earned that right and my civilian clothes ARE my uniform now.

Response by SFC John Black made May 17 at 2020 5:41 PM

SFC John Black — Sun, 17 May 2020 17:41:49 -0400

If you voted anything except yes then you are an ignorant sob, and probably was a very sorry servicemember, if in fact you had ever been one.

Response by SSG Jim Husselman made May 23 at 2020 10:07 PM

SSG Jim Husselman — Sat, 23 May 2020 22:07:58 -0400

As far as active duty soldier's and NG/Res. I am not 100% sure but I believe AR-670-1 , or anouther reg. Used to state even in civilian clothes if you recognize a superior Officer that you are technically supposed to salute them and give the greeting. I have never seen it enforced and I retired with 24 yrs in 2007.
I have many times saluted the flag as it is raised and lowered as well as military that has passed or when I visited thier graves and I truly do not know of anyone who would fault a service member, retiree ect.. for paying respect to a fallen service member.

Response by SPC Ismael Pinto made May 24 at 2020 9:35 AM

SPC Ismael Pinto — Sun, 24 May 2020 09:35:02 -0400

No matter what you are a veteran and a
former member of the Armed forces of the United states, That doesn't ever fade
away ever, if you want to show respect
and render the hand salute I perfectly ok
with it no one has the right to judge you!
You served your country and in my
opinion, it's your right!

Response by SPC Richard (Rick) Henry made May 24 at 2020 7:19 PM

SPC Richard (Rick) Henry — Sun, 24 May 2020 19:19:06 -0400

It should never make you feel uncomfortable to render respect to our flag or fallen comrades! Only the uneducated and ignorant would try to make anybody feel bad for a person to pay their respects!

Response by TSgt Tommy Amparano made May 27 at 2020 3:40 PM

TSgt Tommy Amparano — Wed, 27 May 2020 15:40:55 -0400

I would say in this instance the sentiment is more important than the letter of the law. If a law or regulation exists specifically to prohibit it then I would give more concern over it. Say one did exist what is the worst cast scenario for an infraction. Someone recognizes you as an active duty member and sees you in civilian clothes rendering a salute as a sign or respect to a fallen military member and you get called into your Commanders office. If you had a commander punish you for showing respect off duty in civilian clothes, then I would hope that he throws the book at you because once it makes it to the news and internet, you are going to get a presidential pardon. Those are hard to come by.

Response by Bill Hunt made May 27 at 2020 8:42 PM

Bill Hunt — Wed, 27 May 2020 20:42:22 -0400

Who gives a sh!@ if someone wishes to honor their fallen brother in arms? Can we discuss something important? Doubtful

Response by SSgt Phil C. Hallberg made May 27 at 2020 11:16 PM

SSgt Phil C. Hallberg — Wed, 27 May 2020 23:16:23 -0400

I have no problem with it...

Response by Sgt Tr Whitford made May 28 at 2020 11:40 PM

Sgt Tr Whitford — Thu, 28 May 2020 23:40:48 -0400

Your heart will tell you what is right.

Response by MSG David Densmore made May 29 at 2020 9:21 PM

MSG David Densmore — Fri, 29 May 2020 21:21:59 -0400

Yes, I mean It’s nice to find out that what I’ve already been doing is legal. It never even crossed my mind that it wouldn’t be. Obviously it needs to be proper and with respect.

Seriously, they had to write a law to make it legal?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2020 8:34 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 30 May 2020 20:34:06 -0400

You had better. Don’t be bound by regulations. You are a patriot. Be a patriot.

Response by SrA Angel Rodriguez made May 31 at 2020 12:27 PM

SrA Angel Rodriguez — Sun, 31 May 2020 12:27:59 -0400

Every time I run, I pass a Korean War Memorial. As I pass, I send a silent thank you for their sacrifice and I pop a salute. I don’t care about the legalities of it, I am honoring and respecting those who sacrificed for us. If that is wrong, I don’t want to be right.

Response by PO3 Al Buxton made Jun 1 at 2020 8:08 AM

PO3 Al Buxton — Mon, 01 Jun 2020 08:08:33 -0400

YES!

Response by CW3 Dan Mackey made Jun 2 at 2020 9:03 PM

CW3 Dan Mackey — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 21:03:48 -0400

A salute is not the property of the military, it is an honor shared with fellow warriors

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Jun 9 at 2020 8:49 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Tue, 09 Jun 2020 20:49:32 -0400

Before the NDAA of 20008, when I was in civilian clothes, I'd salute during the playing of the National Anthem, taps and military fuenerals (spelling). K felt I owed it to my fellow veterans and they deserved it. My father among them too.

Response by TSgt Brent Strickland made Jun 11 at 2020 2:13 AM

TSgt Brent Strickland — Thu, 11 Jun 2020 02:13:54 -0400

II gave 36 years a
Army and Air Force. 8 combat tours, stating in Granada in. Yup, was intricate.

Response by MSgt Morris Walsh made Jun 19 at 2020 8:02 PM

MSgt Morris Walsh — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 20:02:10 -0400

Response by MSgt Morris Walsh made Jun 19 at 2020 8:08 PM

MSgt Morris Walsh — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 20:08:20 -0400

Yes, absolutely. That is what Military tradition is all about.

Response by MSgt Morris Walsh made Jun 19 at 2020 8:15 PM

MSgt Morris Walsh — Fri, 19 Jun 2020 20:15:03 -0400

Yes. That's what made our Country so great and is so because of what heroic men and women have put their lives on the line to make it as great as it is. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

Response by Lt Col Bill Fletcher made Jul 4 at 2020 3:44 PM

Lt Col Bill Fletcher — Sat, 04 Jul 2020 15:44:47 -0400

Every Memorial Day and Veteran’s Day I visit the best Fighter Pilot I ever flew with. I bring him a beer and cigar and we enjoy them together. I salute when I arrive and again when I depart. Feel free to honor tour friend the same way.

Response by SrA James Cannon made Jul 5 at 2020 11:11 PM

SrA James Cannon — Sun, 05 Jul 2020 23:11:18 -0400

I don't know that there is any rule or law specifically authorizing a salute by a veteran who is not in uniform. I will tell you that as a veteran, and as a US citizen, I will salute whatever it is that I decide to salute. It's protected under the First Amendment with freedom of expression.

Response by SPC Robert Montoya made Jul 7 at 2020 4:47 AM

SPC Robert Montoya — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 04:47:45 -0400

Not only can you my Brother, even before the Defense Dept Act. of 2008, many Veterans organization Members Displayed full Military Salute. I have many dear friends who are officers and, unfortunately, I need to remind them that, my Oath doesn't say to blindly follow them.

To clarify my prior post, I was dealing with some emotional issues which led to my rambling on about nothing to do with this original post.

Rendering a hand Salute to our fallen is not only correct, it is the ultimate sign of respect from all of us who have served.

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Jul 7 at 2020 1:52 PM

SSG Eric Blue — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 13:52:23 -0400

No offense to anyone who made a regulation to authorize it or anyone who got butt-hurt for someone doing it without permission, but I'm honoring my fallen comrade. My clothing is irrelevant.

Response by SGM Gerald Fife made Jul 8 at 2020 11:33 AM

SGM Gerald Fife — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 11:33:49 -0400

It doesn't matter. If you feel you want to salute, DO IT! Do it because if you walk away not saluting, you'll be guessing for a long time if you should have done it. Besides, it is a great feeling when you salute the fallen.

Response by SGT George Stephens made Jul 9 at 2020 10:08 AM

SGT George Stephens — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 10:08:14 -0400

I can tell you personally that i have rendered a salute to my comrade's funerals while in my suit.

To me it's my way of rendering respect and saying "see you later brother" because i don't believe in ever saying good-bye. During the national anthem I'll salute too because it's instilled in me and my blood.

But again, while in civilian clothes as a citizen (I believe there's a difference in civilian and citizen) anyways, I'll render a final salute to the fallen out of respect.

Response by Kenn Evans made Jul 9 at 2020 12:48 PM

Kenn Evans — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:48:17 -0400

Yes.

Response by CPO Bill Feller made Jul 9 at 2020 7:38 PM

CPO Bill Feller — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 19:38:23 -0400

This is really a question to even worry about? If they are saluting it’s a sign of respect for the fallen. Do it and don’t worry about who’s looking. I personally salute at ball games and I see a lot of other veterans saluting also. If anyone gives you crap just ignore them and keep going.

Response by SPC David Lowry made Jul 14 at 2020 4:42 PM

SPC David Lowry — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:42:26 -0400

Ah the military, an entity that felt it would “authorize” a veteran - see former military current civilian - to do anything. An idea that I personally find comical. Being a veteran myself, no one currently in or previously having worn a uniform is going to tell me who and what I can and cannot salute.

Response by 1SG Frank Lafferty made Jul 17 at 2020 9:29 AM

1SG Frank Lafferty — Fri, 17 Jul 2020 09:29:04 -0400

Its absolutely ok. 1SG (USA RET)

Response by COL Andrew Burns made Jul 21 at 2020 11:47 AM

COL Andrew Burns — Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:47:46 -0400

Of course!

Response by AB Edward Mondini made Jul 27 at 2020 12:55 AM

AB Edward Mondini — Mon, 27 Jul 2020 00:55:39 -0400

The survey results speak for themselves.

Response by CPL Christopher Trafnik made Aug 1 at 2020 9:40 AM

CPL Christopher Trafnik — Sat, 01 Aug 2020 09:40:33 -0400

I am all for saluting a fallen comrade. The love and respect in that gesture was earned by the fallen.

Response by PFC Donna Rose made Aug 2 at 2020 3:32 PM

PFC Donna Rose — Sun, 02 Aug 2020 15:32:31 -0400

I salute the flag for the National Anthem, Taps, and when it passes by on a coffin...I'm a Vietnam Era Vet

Response by Sgt Leonard Lamb made Aug 3 at 2020 5:02 PM

Sgt Leonard Lamb — Mon, 03 Aug 2020 17:02:01 -0400

I was saluting before my military days and since. Saluting, as with Sir/Ma'am, is not just a military thing. It is a way of showing respect to those you encounter or just a friendly hello/goodbye. Everyone loves being saluted. It is as warm as a hug. I salute you is a common phrase I often bestow.

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Aug 7 at 2020 6:11 PM

SGT Juan Robledo — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:11:58 -0400

I do

Response by SSG Jess Peters made Aug 7 at 2020 6:15 PM

SSG Jess Peters — Fri, 07 Aug 2020 18:15:09 -0400

Absolutely Yes. It is a sign of respect. Even the wearing of civilian clothes you are required to salute recognized senior officers and our flag.

Response by SFC Steven Borders made Aug 8 at 2020 2:59 PM

SFC Steven Borders — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 14:59:56 -0400

I have done it at the tomb of the unknown soldier. Just out of pure respect for those that came before me. I will never fault any veteran who offers respect to their brothers and sisters.

Response by MSgt Allen Chandler made Aug 8 at 2020 7:25 PM

MSgt Allen Chandler — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 19:25:08 -0400

Why are we asking this. As far as I know the hand salute is not copyrighted no protected by any law. There are people who are required to render it but there is no one that is for bidden from using it. I often salute the flag when it passes in the parade. I am always in civilian clothes and I do not always have something on me that tells people I am a veteran. I have rented the salute with him without a hat. Some might agree with me or disagree with me about the hat but no one could possibly make ecological argument saying I can’t salute anyone anything any place any time I want

Response by SPC Patrick McNamara made Aug 10 at 2020 12:15 AM

SPC Patrick McNamara — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 00:15:29 -0400

At a military memorial ceremony in 2017 at the Riverside National Cemetery, I and other veteran attendees were specifically and officially invited bybthe presiding officer to render a hand salute during the playing of taps.

Case closed.

Response by 1LT Voyle Smith made Aug 10 at 2020 5:25 PM

1LT Voyle Smith — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 17:25:16 -0400

Have been out of uniform for 50 years and have always saluted the flag and the fallen.

Response by SSG Sidney Galloway made Aug 20 at 2020 4:42 AM

SSG Sidney Galloway — Thu, 20 Aug 2020 04:42:49 -0400

National Defense Authorization blah, blah, blah, notwithstanding, salute what you want, when you want. It's a display of respect. The respect is yours to display, so use it respectfully.

Response by PFC Nathan Stoughton made Sep 3 at 2020 10:41 AM

PFC Nathan Stoughton — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 10:41:18 -0400

I'm confused on this one. I can understand seeking regs for reservists and guard and such but veterans? A veteran could wear a tutu and play a kazoo while doing interpretive freelance dancing to honor the fallen. What wierd specifics would ever make saluting uncalled for I think would be limited to personnel under contract of commission or enlistment because their candor is representative of the army.

Response by SSG Constance Hurst made Sep 3 at 2020 11:20 AM

SSG Constance Hurst — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 11:20:33 -0400

I saluted my husband's coffin after they draped it with the flag. I guess all those present knew better than to say something. I'm glad these regs have changed as I could never fit into an old uniform but you can't take the soldier out of me.

Response by A1C Anthony Ruggles made Sep 3 at 2020 11:21 AM

A1C Anthony Ruggles — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 11:21:16 -0400

Yes

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 4 at 2020 8:04 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 20:04:08 -0400

Yes you can.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2020 11:35 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 11:35:16 -0400

Anyone who would oppose someone rendering a salute out of a respect for another, living or dead, is a complete ass. Any person that would condemn rendering a salute to a fallen comrade, doubtless needs extensive mental health counseling and training on social integration. Opposition to saluting in this situation indicates a thought process of extremism, intolerance, control of others, non-plasticity, and is dangerously anti-social.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2020 11:43 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 11:43:36 -0400

If you feel a person or individual, particularly a situation as somber a a war memorial, is worthy of such a sign of respect, then render it. If some one gives you trouble about it, don't worry, your're covered by the Seven Army Values, Respect and Personal Courage in particular. The first by giving respect that deserved, the second by doing what is morally right regardless of repercussions.

Response by SCPO Thomas Plough made Sep 6 at 2020 4:01 PM

SCPO Thomas Plough — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 16:01:28 -0400

I saluted superiors many times while they were in uniform and I was in civilian clothes as that was my active duty attire.

Response by TSgt Robert Wayne made Sep 7 at 2020 1:12 PM

TSgt Robert Wayne — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 13:12:33 -0400

Can I salute when not in uniform? Who's going to stop me?

Response by CPL Annette Bryant-Grimenstein made Sep 7 at 2020 4:29 PM

CPL Annette Bryant-Grimenstein — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 16:29:22 -0400

It is a respect thing

Response by SSG William Bruno made Sep 14 at 2020 6:12 PM

SSG William Bruno — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 18:12:15 -0400

To me, it's just showing respect. The dumbest thing to do is confronting a Soldier on doing what he knows in his heart is the right thing to do.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2020 10:21 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 22:21:50 -0400

But non of your business
Nothing had to be written down other than what our Founding Fathers wrote down to be able to, in civilian clothes, salute any darn time you fell like it!

Response by CPL Jason Northedge made Sep 18 at 2020 8:48 AM

CPL Jason Northedge — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 08:48:41 -0400

I've done maybe 10 funerals as color guard. I have seen non-uniformed vets salute the fallen.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 19 at 2020 6:13 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 18:13:18 -0400

How odd that this question just showed up in my inbox. Im going to a memorial next weekend, so i'm glad this popped up. Thank you.

Response by CPL Jerald Nott made Sep 19 at 2020 10:53 PM

CPL Jerald Nott — Sat, 19 Sep 2020 22:53:52 -0400

Once you become a soldier, you remain so forever. You always show respect to those living and those gone.

Response by SGT Stephen Perry made Oct 6 at 2020 11:11 PM

SGT Stephen Perry — Tue, 06 Oct 2020 23:11:33 -0400

I would only ask you this...do you feel that that person who fought and died for your freedoms deserves the honor, the answer should be yes...

Response by LtCol Andrew Horne made Oct 6 at 2020 11:54 PM

LtCol Andrew Horne — Tue, 06 Oct 2020 23:54:01 -0400

Saluting in most instances is a customary act. Saluting the grave of a fallen friend is certainly appropriate even if it isn’t spelled out. Btw as a matter of custom and regulations Marines never salute uncovered.

Response by SGT Doug Blanchard made Oct 7 at 2020 3:07 PM

SGT Doug Blanchard — Wed, 07 Oct 2020 15:07:14 -0400

Just let them try and stop me from doing so. As they will be opening a can of worms they dont want to open.
Even when they presented me with my dad's casket flag at his funeral in 1999, I stood up and returned the salute I received. Je was a combat vet, two wars, he was my father and mentor, and he was a brother in arms. He brought me up to Honor the Flag, Honor our Military, and Honor our/my fellow Veterans.

Response by CH (MAJ) Scott Fluegel made Oct 8 at 2020 7:19 AM

CH (MAJ) Scott Fluegel — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 07:19:22 -0400

I entered basic training in 1978 and learned that it was required to recognize Officers with a salute, even when I was not in uniform. When I was in college many times I would pass the U.S.A. flag I would salute. I always stop my car and get out stand at attention and salute the hearst that is carrying a veteran. When I hear taps I stand, face the music and salute. It is with great honor, respect, and service that I stand at attention and salute.

Response by LCpl Jeff Moore made Oct 8 at 2020 9:43 AM

LCpl Jeff Moore — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 09:43:06 -0400

N0 one is going to arrest you. And only a shit bird motard will bug you.

Response by Capt J E Tyler made Oct 8 at 2020 2:37 PM

Capt J E Tyler — Thu, 08 Oct 2020 14:37:30 -0400

When something's not required, it becomes optional. If something's optional, it's an individual choice. Individual choices, that are not breaking the law, are not the business of other people.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Oct 9 at 2020 11:50 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Fri, 09 Oct 2020 23:50:26 -0400

I am retired USAF. I always render a hand salute during the playing of t he National Anthem, retreat, military funerals, passing of the colors. To show my respect.

Response by LCDR Robert S. made Oct 12 at 2020 1:12 PM

LCDR Robert S. — Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:12:45 -0400

Short answer: Yes.

Longer answer: Unless something is prohibited by law, regulation, or orders, it is permitted. The US Flag Code (Title 4 Section 1 USC, for those who want to look it up) makes no mention of when it's impermissible to salute the flag (pro-tip - it's always permissible, unless you're in formation or other condition that expressly forbids it). I'm also not aware of anything that prohibits saluting memorials, graves, etc. So if you want to do it, you're fine. If someone tells you you're wrong, thank them for letting you know, and ask them (politely and gently, so it doesn't sound like you're saying, "Oh yeah? Says who?") if they can tell you what law, regulation, or order prohibits it. If they don't know, feel free to go back to doing it when they aren't around (doing it when they are is unnecessarily antagonistic, and since you aren't required to do it, our fallen comrades will understand if you miss it once or twice to keep the peace with a living comrade).

Alternatively, if there's a US flag at the memorial (which I'm sure there is), salute *it* out of respect for those memorialized.

Response by PO2 Cyrus Barberia made Oct 25 at 2020 2:13 PM

PO2 Cyrus Barberia — Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:13:16 -0400

I think it's very righteous and respect to salute fallen heroes if you are veteran

Response by SPC Kelly Grindstaff made Oct 26 at 2020 8:56 AM

SPC Kelly Grindstaff — Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:56:49 -0400

Yes

Response by SSG Harry Herres made Nov 2 at 2020 5:21 AM

SSG Harry Herres — Mon, 02 Nov 2020 05:21:51 -0500

Try and stop me.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Nov 8 at 2020 8:31 PM

1SG James Kelly — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 20:31:03 -0500

Always did (1965-1988) still do.

Response by 1LT Richard Wade made Nov 13 at 2020 3:22 PM

1LT Richard Wade — Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:22:23 -0500

I have saluted on Appropriate Occasions as referenced since I ETSd Nov 1969..

1Lt R Wade

Response by SSgt Taylor Cobb made Nov 15 at 2020 10:44 AM

SSgt Taylor Cobb — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 10:44:23 -0500

Being out of uniform implies that you may actually do what you want. However, I think that it is act of admiration. But it not something you are forced to do by any regulations.

Response by SFC Charles Dennis made Nov 15 at 2020 4:00 PM

SFC Charles Dennis — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 16:00:25 -0500

Yes, a veteran can still salute.

Response by SSgt James Carter made Nov 15 at 2020 10:33 PM

SSgt James Carter — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 22:33:17 -0500

Absolutely, we all served and have that moral right with or without anyone else's approval. The older I get, the more important these things have become.

Response by PO2 Ed Taylor made Nov 15 at 2020 11:14 PM

PO2 Ed Taylor — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 23:14:19 -0500

in this day and ace when it has been acceptable to take a knee by those high paid ball players. I say a
a vet or mil. pers out of uniform can salute if they so desire. As for me I will plage my hand over my heart when I need or want to pay tribute. I was taught this as a child 69 years ago. ET PO2/SGT

Response by MAJ John Douglas made Nov 17 at 2020 1:40 AM

MAJ John Douglas — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 01:40:10 -0500

Of course. I would expect it.

Response by PO2 Paul Dempsey made Nov 17 at 2020 10:24 AM

PO2 Paul Dempsey — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:24:42 -0500

If a friend, family member or any veteran is being buried and im present i will salute them. Anyone who has the nerve to interupt or chastise me for doing so well as we say in the Navy better stand by their lines. They're about to run into heavy seas

Response by PFC Ray Gibb made Nov 20 at 2020 3:33 PM

PFC Ray Gibb — Fri, 20 Nov 2020 15:33:20 -0500

yes

Response by SPC Chris Ison made Dec 18 at 2020 1:45 PM

SPC Chris Ison — Fri, 18 Dec 2020 13:45:20 -0500

The National Authorization act of 2008, is stupid. The military hand salute is a courtesy while in uniform. Based upon the concept that military personnel, out of uniform can salute the flag, means that a military members out of uniform should salute officers too.

But more importantly than that the act of placing your hand over your heart IS A SALUTE FOR CIVILIAN CLOTHING.

Finally, what does it say about a government that refuses to help its people during a pandemic, but takes the time to modify a rule that doesn't matter in the long run.

If I saluted in civilian clothes, what would happen? Who would care? Would someone try and article 15 me for saluting civilian clothing? No.

Would the world end? no.

Conservatives have the dumbest priorities.

Response by PO3 Dale Olson made Dec 19 at 2020 8:57 AM

PO3 Dale Olson — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 08:57:03 -0500

Under normal circumstances, a salute is a show of respect to the officer corps.

As a veteran, I render a salute to my fallen brothers in arms out of respect to their sacrifice.

Remember Freedom isn't Free!

Response by SSG William Bruno made Dec 19 at 2020 9:57 AM

SSG William Bruno — Sat, 19 Dec 2020 09:57:37 -0500

My question is why we even worry about this? Yes you can salute! In fact you owe that hero your respect!

Response by SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM made Dec 20 at 2020 10:02 AM

SFC Louis Willhauck, MSM, JSCM, and ARCOM — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:02:37 -0500

I have to jump back in here. I think the direction in this is backwards, probably it should be about what to do when you see blatant DISrespect for the flag or the anthem. Like stepping on it, spitting on it, burning it... etc.

Response by 1SG Frank Lafferty made Dec 20 at 2020 11:31 AM

1SG Frank Lafferty — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 11:31:09 -0500

Absolutely they can!!! They can also hand salute the National Anthem!

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made Dec 20 at 2020 7:11 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Sun, 20 Dec 2020 19:11:26 -0500

Note on this subject. It's not against the law to salute at the National Anthem being played, Taps honoring the Fallen or at retreat. Even.if it were against the law, I'd still salute.

Response by SSgt John Hutto made Dec 21 at 2020 5:38 PM

SSgt John Hutto — Mon, 21 Dec 2020 17:38:36 -0500

Yes! Its a sign of respect! If you served especially during wartime and in combat you earned the right to salute!

Response by PV2 Duane Schlender made Dec 24 at 2020 5:56 AM

PV2 Duane Schlender — Thu, 24 Dec 2020 05:56:31 -0500

Ask any war veteran not to salute a fallen comrade they served with. Especially one that died in front of them, or saving their own life. In a civilian sense, would you ever tell a mother she has no right to weep over her fallen child?

If you can honestly say you would tell a veteran they can not salute a fallen brother/sister in arms, please wait for me to stand clear. I don't want to get any of you on me.

Response by SPC Ron Salsbury made Dec 25 at 2020 10:31 AM

SPC Ron Salsbury — Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:31:10 -0500

Hell yes we can, those of us serving our country earned that right, we do not need a law to say yes or no; I will stand firm to anyone telling me, or any of my brothers, and sisters we cannot regardless of who they are. To honor our fallen, is one of the most respectful things I have witnessed in my life, I would hope others continue to do the same; many times I have place three coins upon a fallen soldiers meal table at stores, and restaurants to honor my lost brothers from war. Many stare and wonder, but those who have lost friends have in the past, followed suit.

Response by SGT Bill Christian made Jan 3 at 2021 7:55 AM

SGT Bill Christian — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 07:55:24 -0500

The origin of the salute was a greeting between warrior of times long past, it was a sign of respect, and thats what the Vietnam veteran you saw was rendering. A gesture a motion an acknowledgment of his brothers and sisters who didn't make it back home. To hell with DA-pam this or AR-that there is not a real warrior or soldier on this earth that would say a damn thing to you for rendering a last gesture if respect to our brothers and sisters that gave gone before us...Doc

Response by SP5 Dennis Dorsey made Jan 25 at 2021 11:47 AM

SP5 Dennis Dorsey — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 11:47:17 -0500

As a veteran, I do it out of respect for the fallen.

Response by PFC Anthony Bruce made Jan 25 at 2021 5:26 PM

PFC Anthony Bruce — Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:26:54 -0500

You serve you earn the right to salute.

Response by PFC Chad Ricker made Jan 27 at 2021 11:26 AM

PFC Chad Ricker — Wed, 27 Jan 2021 11:26:26 -0500

I'm an Army veteran, and I saluted my father-in-law (Navy veteran) at his funeral at Camp Nelson.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to stop a soldier or veteran from saluting a fallen comrade.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2021 2:01 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 02:01:57 -0500

To salute a fallen comrade is to show your deepest respect in honoring that Soldier, for that Soldier paid the ultimate price to defend our flag and what we stand for as a nation. So, in my book that gesture is as good as regulation or law, in or out of uniform. SGM Garcia, Jimmy

Response by SGT James Hammons made Feb 25 at 2021 7:10 AM

SGT James Hammons — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 07:10:49 -0500

Yes.

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Feb 26 at 2021 8:13 PM

SSG Bill McCoy — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 20:13:30 -0500

Not only can a soldier (or any military person) salute when in civilian clothes, but so too can Veterans (normally) in civilian clothes. In fact, when I go attend to a funeral home to pay respects to someone, if they're a Veteran, I render a slow "funeral salute." I'm a Mason, and we have Masonic Funeral Services on request of a family of any Mason. There's a brief ceremony, then Brother Masons will approach the casket in two columns. A fellow Veteran and I will ensure we arrive together, and we render a slow "funeral salute," irrespective of Masonic traditions.
Veterans can now (and should) salute the Flag passing in any parade, and salute during the National Anthem.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2021 10:53 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 22:53:38 -0500

Honor

Response by SGT Gary Stemen made Mar 1 at 2021 12:37 AM

SGT Gary Stemen — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 00:37:27 -0500

I have saluted foreign born foreign country veterans in their casket..... The fact that they are a veteran doesn't change!

Response by PVT Gary Huffman made Mar 1 at 2021 6:28 AM

PVT Gary Huffman — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 06:28:45 -0500

Even if it wasn't allowed I would do it!! They were Brothers and Sisters!!

Response by 1LT Peter Duston made Mar 1 at 2021 4:25 PM

1LT Peter Duston — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 16:25:18 -0500

I am unshaven, smelly and in civilian clothes saluting the Audie Murphy Memorial on a mountain ridge on the Appalachian Trail where his plane crashed. I felt honored!

Response by PFC Josh Willhite made Mar 1 at 2021 6:34 PM

PFC Josh Willhite — Mon, 01 Mar 2021 18:34:27 -0500

Anyone else find it ridiculous we had to have some pos politician write up some legislation to give us permission to salute our mf flag?

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2021 10:34 AM

CDR Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 10:34:41 -0500

WTH kind of question is this... someone tell Sen Dole that he was improper with saluting President Bush.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Mar 2 at 2021 10:35 AM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 10:35:59 -0500

Yes

Response by LT Michael Watson made Mar 2 at 2021 7:05 PM

LT Michael Watson — Tue, 02 Mar 2021 19:05:33 -0500

Now, in this time of COVID, our rendering a hand salute to a fellow Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine, Coast Guardsman, and now Guardians is a very fine way to show our bond and remain socially distant. I have been out of active service for quite a while but once the NDAA was passed I gladly began rendering hand salutes whenever the Colors are presented, the National Anthem is played, or Taps is called. As a member of the American Legion and Military Officers Association, I salute my fellows as a sign of respect and the love of our service. I even find myself saluting the highway memorial signs of our fallen, and senior officers whom I encounter (those salutes are always returned followed by great conversations).

Response by SMSgt Frank Costa made Mar 3 at 2021 7:00 PM

SMSgt Frank Costa — Wed, 03 Mar 2021 19:00:44 -0500

The regulation explains how to salute, and when to salute. It does NOT prohibit salutes.

Response by SGT David Schrader made Mar 4 at 2021 8:42 PM

SGT David Schrader — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 20:42:40 -0500

That is 100% acceptable for off duty military personnel to render a salute. I did this as a soldier and veteran. It’s an honor.

Response by SPC Charles Sewell made Mar 5 at 2021 2:43 PM

SPC Charles Sewell — Fri, 05 Mar 2021 14:43:23 -0500

Thank you 1SG Hastings for the excellent info.

Response by TSgt Larry Cohen made Mar 5 at 2021 11:07 PM

TSgt Larry Cohen — Fri, 05 Mar 2021 23:07:31 -0500

A salute is a friendly gesture that shows respect among military and Veterans.

Response by SGT Lorenzo Nieto made Mar 8 at 2021 6:32 AM

SGT Lorenzo Nieto — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:32:52 -0500

You salute the flag in civilian clothes why not a fallen brother or sister they made the greatest sacrifice for there county

Response by CPT Carolyn Andrews made Mar 28 at 2021 10:42 AM

CPT Carolyn Andrews — Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:42:28 -0400

Yes,
It's respectful.
Showing UR comoradity for UR brother/sister in arms.

Response by MSgt Steve Demers made Mar 28 at 2021 5:26 PM

MSgt Steve Demers — Sun, 28 Mar 2021 17:26:33 -0400

Is it a thing to care about what other people do at funerals now?

Response by SGT William Revis made Mar 28 at 2021 11:09 PM

SGT William Revis — Sun, 28 Mar 2021 23:09:52 -0400

Yes

Response by SrA John Monette made Mar 31 at 2021 1:08 PM

SrA John Monette — Wed, 31 Mar 2021 13:08:40 -0400

ABSOLUTELY!!! It is not against the law or regulations.

Response by SPC Kenneth James made Apr 3 at 2021 2:20 PM

SPC Kenneth James — Sat, 03 Apr 2021 14:20:42 -0400

I truly try to be honest when I join a comment on this wonderful community of soldiers of all kinds and I love saluting when I go to baseball games or football games and the national anthem is playing I come to attention and I give a crisp clean snap salute until it is done I really really don't understand why people have such a hard time with things are right I wonder why they would rather find a way to fight things the best part of saluting is no matter what rank you are they have to salute back and I see it as the officers respect me also as a soldier that made it so sue me

Response by CDR Jim M. made Apr 4 at 2021 2:34 AM

CDR Jim M. — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 02:34:34 -0400

Yes, and we should. There are fewer of us per capita in the country, and especially in Congress. We do well to honor those among us, as well as those who have passed, who served our nation at any point, especially in times of need and threat.

Response by SFC Sam Koutouzakis made Apr 4 at 2021 4:04 AM

SFC Sam Koutouzakis — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 04:04:10 -0400

I saw a couple of comments here that are pretty funny and stupid. I do have a question though... exactly what "regulation" prohibits one from saluting a deceased soldier at the burial site while in civilian clothing?

Response by CSM Arthur La Rue made Apr 4 at 2021 9:19 AM

CSM Arthur La Rue — Sun, 04 Apr 2021 09:19:08 -0400

Why is this a question?

Response by 1SG David Bennett made Apr 5 at 2021 5:04 PM

1SG David Bennett — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 17:04:57 -0400

I retired from the US Army June ‘90 and have always rendered a hand salute on every occasion that I would have while on active duty. I do still.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Apr 5 at 2021 9:19 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Mon, 05 Apr 2021 21:19:46 -0400

why wouldn't you wanna walk over and stand wit ha brother in arms, render the same honor and respect he's showing... that would've been a moment BOTH of you live with forever into eternity...

Response by SSG Sidney Galloway made Apr 10 at 2021 3:17 AM

SSG Sidney Galloway — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 03:17:16 -0400

You're God da*^ed right he can. The expression of respect can't be frowned upon.

Response by Sgt John Wallace made Apr 16 at 2021 10:37 AM

Sgt John Wallace — Fri, 16 Apr 2021 10:37:27 -0400

Yes

Response by SPC William Biles made Apr 28 at 2021 6:17 PM

SPC William Biles — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 18:17:13 -0400

When in doubt, salute it out. Especially, if it's in a respectable manner, and definitely if you knew the fallen personally.

Response by 1stSgt Roy Soderberg made Apr 29 at 2021 2:12 PM

1stSgt Roy Soderberg — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:12:42 -0400

When I see a fallen brother I am going to render a salute to him

Response by Maj Phillip Leslie made Apr 29 at 2021 8:31 PM

Maj Phillip Leslie — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 20:31:42 -0400

So who cares? If you feel you would like to salute, do it. PDL, Major LDO, USMC Ret.

Response by Maj Phillip Leslie made Apr 29 at 2021 9:28 PM

Maj Phillip Leslie — Thu, 29 Apr 2021 21:28:52 -0400

Who cares? Saluting is a sign of respect. Please do not get caught up in "is it correct". It is a sign of respect. No one will be charged under UCMJ if they salute a grave or another vet. Please focus on something important. PDL USMC Ret (Pvt to GySgt to CWO to Major). Get over it!

Response by SP5 Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2021 1:57 AM

SP5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 May 2021 01:57:09 -0400

Yes, in fact when I attend Veteran ceremonies when TAPS is played I turn to at attention and salute.

Response by 1SG John Highfill made May 1 at 2021 8:02 AM

1SG John Highfill — Sat, 01 May 2021 08:02:16 -0400

You know what they say “ when in doubt whip it out “

Response by 1LT Peter Duston made May 2 at 2021 6:38 AM

1LT Peter Duston — Sun, 02 May 2021 06:38:27 -0400

Tomorrow, we're flying out of Bangor (ME). There's a POW Memorial chair in the terminal. I come to full attention and render a ceremonial salute in front of the memorial. I remember and consider it a teaching moment to remind civilians AND other veterans that "freedom is Not Free".

Response by SGT Jeff Everhart made May 3 at 2021 1:05 AM

SGT Jeff Everhart — Mon, 03 May 2021 01:05:47 -0400

Why would it be unauthorized?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2021 6:14 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 May 2021 06:14:51 -0400

Who cares

Response by CWO3 Robert Fong made May 3 at 2021 2:30 PM

CWO3 Robert Fong — Mon, 03 May 2021 14:30:31 -0400

Specialist, a hand salute to a fallen comrade is the highest respect and honor one can render. Veterans even render the hand salute when colors go by, the National Anthem is played, and colors are posted. Though the government gave us "OFFICIAL" approval I really don't think most vets needed that approval nor sought it.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 3 at 2021 9:37 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 May 2021 21:37:26 -0400

Yes of course! Who’s going to stop them? I do military funeral honors on a regular basis and we invite the veterans present to salute.

Response by PO2 Stephen McKean made May 4 at 2021 4:17 AM

PO2 Stephen McKean — Tue, 04 May 2021 04:17:31 -0400

I salute my passed friend whenever I visit his grave marker in the memorial veterans circle of my home town cemetary. When it eventually comes my time I intend to also be buried in the same circle or the military cemetary near Sturgis, SD.

Response by SGT Greg Knytych made May 4 at 2021 8:53 AM

SGT Greg Knytych — Tue, 04 May 2021 08:53:28 -0400

I know that salutes to the flag and national anthem are allowed by the National Defense Authorization Act of 2008, but being "old school" and being discharged in 1990, I always to this day merely remove my baseball cap and hold it over my heart while standing at attention.
Along that same line the salute, though required when greeting officers, is always given as a sign of respect. I have never had an issue with someone saluting a fellow military member, whether active in uniform, out of uniform, retired or simply discharged like me. The same goes for any past or present military member saluting monuments, grave stones, or any other item that deserves military respect.

Response by SSG Harry Herres made May 12 at 2021 8:04 PM

SSG Harry Herres — Wed, 12 May 2021 20:04:11 -0400

I have always saluted at memorials, funerals. When the National Anthem plays I stand at attention , hat off and across my heart. I have done this for 67 years since the Col.,my dad showed me how. I will never stop, I have earned the right. I have been there, I have done that. I have earned the right! You can question me but I will burn holes in your skull with my stare.

Response by Capt John Burke made May 16 at 2021 10:31 AM

Capt John Burke — Sun, 16 May 2021 10:31:36 -0400

Absolutely

Response by SFC Kathy Pepper made May 26 at 2021 6:42 PM

SFC Kathy Pepper — Wed, 26 May 2021 18:42:55 -0400

The day after my first ETS in 1986, I saluted the flag during retreat while wearing my wedding gown (we were outside taking photos at the time; the photographer got a picture of it). I have saluted at military funerals while wearing civilian attire. I have saluted the flag indoors during “pass and review.” I have always said that someone would have to break my arm to prevent me from saluting while out of uniform. I don’t need any Act to “authorize” me to render my hand salute; my heart and my soul give me the authorization.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2021 3:18 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 03:18:08 -0400

Federal law and service regulations authorize Veterans to salute instead of placing a hand over the heart.

Response by SSgt Brad Shipp made Jun 3 at 2021 12:39 PM

SSgt Brad Shipp — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:39:55 -0400

The real question is who’s going to stop them. A salute is a greeting originated to show that you were approaching unarmed and in a friendly manner. The hand salute has evolved to be a sign of reverence and respect. IMO there is never a time when you “can’t” render a salute, especially if you’re no longer on active duty.

Response by SFC Justin Rooks made Jun 3 at 2021 6:09 PM

SFC Justin Rooks — Thu, 03 Jun 2021 18:09:49 -0400

If you have worn the uniform and honorably served this country, you have earned the right to salute when you feel the urge to. Considering that those that have gone the way of military service are more in the minority than the majority, I don't understand why this is an issue. We should not be marginalized for showing our continued respect for the service we hold dear, or the country we served.

Response by CPL Cory Herrera made Jun 4 at 2021 10:13 AM

CPL Cory Herrera — Fri, 04 Jun 2021 10:13:44 -0400

My opinion is that as long as the individual is rendering the salute as a show of respect it doesnt matter. If the individual were on duty and at a military function on or off post than they should try a keep with regulation. So long as it is rendered with respect i dont believe any military corrective action would be taken.

Response by CWO3 Johnathan Lemons made Jun 6 at 2021 1:33 AM

CWO3 Johnathan Lemons — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 01:33:07 -0400

I didn't give a hoot before they changed the reg. You wanted to snap up a salute, go for it. It's about honor, regs can be ignored sometimes.

Response by PO1 Michael Brouty made Jun 6 at 2021 3:48 PM

PO1 Michael Brouty — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 15:48:31 -0400

If active duty or Reserve, No, get your uniform on and do it correctly. If you are an older veteran/ retiree I personally think rendering a military salute in civvies especially with a unit, or American Legion or VFW cap is OK. Just my opinion.

Response by CPT William Jones made Jun 6 at 2021 6:13 PM

CPT William Jones — Sun, 06 Jun 2021 18:13:47 -0400

A civilian can salute anybody or anything they want to. There is no law or regulation to prevent it. So if you chose to honor someone or something feel free. I served on active duty over 6 years including over 32 months as a combat engineer in RVN.

Response by CSM Tim Bebus made Jun 7 at 2021 4:56 PM

CSM Tim Bebus — Mon, 07 Jun 2021 16:56:53 -0400

Of course you can!

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2021 7:00 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Jun 2021 19:00:58 -0400

If someone in civvies decides to "pop to" & render a salute to the fallen, I won't hold it against them. It's a gesture of respect. It might simply be that for all the fallen, or it might be more personal & meaningful: to someone they knew.

All I'm gonna say is this: If you felt 'compelled' (i.e. pressured or forced to), don't. Rendering honors to someone isn't a compulsory act; it's a genuine gesture of love & respect.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2021 2:25 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Jun 2021 14:25:15 -0400

I unintentionally thumbed an incorrect vote here while scrolling. No way to undo it so don't hold me accountable.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2021 3:26 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 Jun 2021 15:26:00 -0400

It's called the United States of America you have every right have you forgotten about that?

Response by LTC Pete Moore made Jul 5 at 2021 8:42 AM

LTC Pete Moore — Mon, 05 Jul 2021 08:42:23 -0400

Yes. Retired SM may salute and potentially be saluted in civilian attire. SM may salute in civilian attire.

Response by MSgt Ronnie Sherwood made Jul 5 at 2021 7:37 PM

MSgt Ronnie Sherwood — Mon, 05 Jul 2021 19:37:38 -0400

Yes

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2021 7:57 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Jul 2021 19:57:05 -0400

For cripes sake! The military doesn't "own" the salute! Any civilian anywhere can salute anything they want to. Some kid somewhere in Siberia can salute an image of the American flag on Russian TV if she wants to. Even a veteran isn't bound by gestures of respect. If she (a veteran or retiree) sees a superior officer in uniform, she can wave to him, salute him or ignore him. She isn't bound by the same protocol, etiquette, rules, or procedures. BOTTOM LINE: MYOB (Mind Your Own Business) really. If you want to talk to the person later to find out what moved them, wait till they're finished and go ask them. Otherwise, move along quietly and leave him in peace.

Response by PV2 Ross Bryan made Jul 7 at 2021 10:09 AM

PV2 Ross Bryan — Wed, 07 Jul 2021 10:09:27 -0400

SO WHO THE HELL CAN STOP ME????

Response by PV2 Ross Bryan made Jul 7 at 2021 10:13 AM

PV2 Ross Bryan — Wed, 07 Jul 2021 10:13:28 -0400

SO WHO THE HELL CAN STOP ME??

Response by 1SG Clifford Barnes made Jul 7 at 2021 9:42 PM

1SG Clifford Barnes — Wed, 07 Jul 2021 21:42:36 -0400

Yes you most certainly can salute in civilian attire. Your showing respect for the individual So just snap to attention and give the service member a great salute Hooah

Response by SGT Wayne Grindstaff made Jul 8 at 2021 6:35 PM

SGT Wayne Grindstaff — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 18:35:38 -0400

I have been doing it for years at a grave of one from my unit that was KIA two days after I was wounded. I visit his grave twice a year, a flag on Memorial Day and Christmas time when I leave a wraith. His is buried in a Catholic Cemetery.

Response by 1SG Steven Borts made Jul 8 at 2021 10:39 PM

1SG Steven Borts — Thu, 08 Jul 2021 22:39:42 -0400

Yes

Response by SFC Dwight Beaver made Jul 18 at 2021 8:45 PM

SFC Dwight Beaver — Sun, 18 Jul 2021 20:45:53 -0400

Personally if I felt the inspiration to salute, I would and deal with the consequences if ever there was ever a complaint.

Response by CW2 Frank Trinkle made Jul 29 at 2021 7:44 AM

CW2 Frank Trinkle — Thu, 29 Jul 2021 07:44:12 -0400

Not only do I salute the flag and memorials, but while walking through a cemetery, I salute every gravestone of a fallen member. We never forget!

Response by SGT Leonard Frank made Jul 31 at 2021 4:28 PM

SGT Leonard Frank — Sat, 31 Jul 2021 16:28:33 -0400

as much as I agree to all of the positive, I still keep thinking of the stolen valor people

Response by SrA Michael Manning made Aug 17 at 2021 1:20 PM

SrA Michael Manning — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 13:20:51 -0400

yes

Response by MSG Pedro Soto made Aug 18 at 2021 3:44 PM

MSG Pedro Soto — Wed, 18 Aug 2021 15:44:15 -0400

Hello,
I am MSG retiree, when I come across a military, first responder funeral procesion, I render a military salute when in civilian clothes,out of respect. I am not in violation of any rules or policies. Is the right thing to do.
What are they going to do. Give me extra duties?

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2021 8:48 AM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 08:48:52 -0400

Freedom of expression. We fought for it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2021 10:19 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 22:19:22 -0400

You're damn straight you can! I do - & I feel sorry for any jerk who tries to stop me!

Response by SGT Jonathan Persons made Sep 16 at 2021 9:51 AM

SGT Jonathan Persons — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 09:51:59 -0400

These memorials are there to honor those that went before us, so you are allowed and encouraged to offer them a salute. There are no regs against it, and nobody would hold it against you if you did salute.

Response by CPL Jerry Masters made Sep 16 at 2021 10:27 AM

CPL Jerry Masters — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 10:27:12 -0400

If you served in the Military, it’s okay and respectful to salute with your hat on!! You are not only being respectful, it’s about respect and perfectly legal!! Doesn’t matter even if your wearing civics!!

Response by SSG John Jensen made Sep 17 at 2021 2:09 AM

SSG John Jensen — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 02:09:06 -0400

there's a video of former Sec of State George Schultz talking about saluting the war cemetery of Leningrad during diplomatic talks.

Response by SPC Rob Smith made Sep 17 at 2021 6:23 AM

SPC Rob Smith — Fri, 17 Sep 2021 06:23:16 -0400

Hell yes.. A soldier is a soldier as it goes as much as that person has military / spirit ..es spree decore..

Response by SSgt Sharif Morgan made Sep 25 at 2021 10:23 AM

SSgt Sharif Morgan — Sat, 25 Sep 2021 10:23:19 -0400

Not like you going get arrested or anything. You want render that salute just salute.

Response by PO2 Joan MacNeill made Sep 25 at 2021 8:54 PM

PO2 Joan MacNeill — Sat, 25 Sep 2021 20:54:11 -0400

Thank You for the question. I had not much thought about it before. Navy does not salute uncovered, and covers are removed when going indoors, thus no salutes indoors. But now, as a civilian, veteran, my response is "Why not?" I have followed the hand over heart custom, with hat in hand if present. I have been ashamed of those who did not show respect. Now, it finally occurs to me, thanks to the question, that actually anyone can hand salute, for any reason. To show respect. (Any rules existing for active duty folks could be observed, mostly, of course.)

Response by Sgt Jerry Landers made Sep 25 at 2021 10:56 PM

Sgt Jerry Landers — Sat, 25 Sep 2021 22:56:52 -0400

This should not ever be an issue .
It is purely a matter of respect

Response by Cpl Anthony Sero made Sep 26 at 2021 3:17 AM

Cpl Anthony Sero — Sun, 26 Sep 2021 03:17:46 -0400

YES

Response by SFC Robert Falco made Sep 26 at 2021 6:59 AM

SFC Robert Falco — Sun, 26 Sep 2021 06:59:58 -0400

Showing respect to our fallen brothers and sisters transcends any regulations.

Response by SPC Richard Rauenhorst made Sep 27 at 2021 9:16 AM

SPC Richard Rauenhorst — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:16:27 -0400

I was wearing my Vietnam Veteran hate and an immigrant saluted me and thanked me for my service so I would say that a salute shows respect. Any time any were when showing respect.

Response by SGT Kenny Do made Oct 28 at 2021 3:32 PM

SGT Kenny Do — Thu, 28 Oct 2021 15:32:08 -0400

I work at the VA, I always render a final salute to all those that fought their final battle! Some of my veteran coworkers said they don’t salute in door, I feel that this is a special occasion and warrant the slow salute.

Response by PO1 Milton Wiseman made Oct 28 at 2021 9:36 PM

PO1 Milton Wiseman — Thu, 28 Oct 2021 21:36:08 -0400

It is allowed and as a veteran or active duty service member, why not render a proper salute to show your respect to those who served or have paid the ultimate price or are being buried with honors. If I happen to be on post and when the colors are hoisted or hauled down, I stop, get out of my truck and render a hand salute if I happen to have a cover on, or place my right hand over my heart while I stand at attention. RESPECT rendered, for my country, for my brothers and sisters who can no longer do it, and I retired 23 years ago. Yes, you can render a salute in civilian garb while covered and veterans can too.

Response by Maj Maria Avellaneda made Oct 28 at 2021 10:15 PM

Maj Maria Avellaneda — Thu, 28 Oct 2021 22:15:34 -0400

Civilians or Soldiers in civilian clothes don’t need authorization to render a asalut to who ever or whatever!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 29 at 2021 11:23 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 Oct 2021 11:23:45 -0400

It is no longer against regulation to salute out of uniform.
Here is the wording of 4 U.S. Code § 9 "Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag"

During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present in uniform should render the military salute. Members of the Armed Forces and veterans who are present but not in uniform may render the military salute. All other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, or if applicable, remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Citizens of other countries present should stand at attention. All such conduct toward the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes.

Response by SPC Paul LaBelle made Oct 29 at 2021 3:00 PM

SPC Paul LaBelle — Fri, 29 Oct 2021 15:00:05 -0400

An even better question is who cares? I was a spec4, I work with a guy that was a major. I’ll occasionally throw him a salute and he will return it. Who cares? Obviously neither of us feel that we’re committing a sin. If a veteran wants to throw a fellow veteran, a fallen comrade or an active duty service member a salute what difference does it make?
And what’s gonna happen? Are they going to article 15 me? Restrict me to the barracks?
Some people take shit too seriously

Response by SMSgt Michael Gleason made Oct 30 at 2021 5:31 PM

SMSgt Michael Gleason — Sat, 30 Oct 2021 17:31:32 -0400

Certainly! Why should they not?!

Response by SMSgt Michael Gleason made Oct 30 at 2021 5:31 PM

SMSgt Michael Gleason — Sat, 30 Oct 2021 17:31:50 -0400

YES!

Response by 1LT Peter Duston made Nov 17 at 2021 9:44 PM

1LT Peter Duston — Wed, 17 Nov 2021 21:44:19 -0500

Last week I was at Bangor International Airport to pick up a granddaughter. There is POW/MIA memorial in the lobby. Whenever I’m there, I stop in front, come to attention and render a ceremonial salute. It’s the only right thing to do!!!

Response by SFC Michael W. made Dec 21 at 2021 11:18 PM

SFC Michael W. — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 23:18:21 -0500

I do...who's gonna STOP me?

It's both my choice to do so as well as render respect to our fallen comrades. I not only render a salute to my real brother who has passed long ago, but also to those I never even met nor even knew. When I traveled to Hawaii to visit Pearl Harbor (which was on my Bucket List) I rendered not only a salute to those who perished on the USS Arizona, but to all lives lost on December 7, 1941 and I do the same thing to any Veteran Memorial Cemetery at the American Flag there for ALL VETERANS forever on patrol there.

It's YOUR choice...

Response by SPC Patrick McNamara made Dec 22 at 2021 10:49 PM

SPC Patrick McNamara — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 22:49:34 -0500

Short answer: YES

I attended the funeral of a military brother at the Riverside National Cemetary a couple years ago. The officer in charge stated specifically that veterans are authorized to render a salute in their civilian clothes during the playing of taps. Want to know if I did so???

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 23 at 2021 3:27 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:27:45 -0500

The act of saluting is more important than clothing wear.

Response by SGT David Schrader made Dec 23 at 2021 7:04 PM

SGT David Schrader — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 19:04:33 -0500

It’s perfectly proper to salute. Even while in civilian clothes.
It’s an honorable tribute to our fallen heroes.

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Dec 24 at 2021 10:45 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:45:26 -0500

Okay let me be nice here. What i do as a veteran while at a memorial to show respect should not have any effect on what you do, be your own person. If i cry does that mean you have to?
I individually earn the right to salute and i will never let anyone take that away from me in uniform or not.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Dec 24 at 2021 2:59 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 14:59:00 -0500

Since, service members, retirees and veterans can salute the national colors as they pass, the National Anthem, the raising and lowering of the national Colors at reveille and retreat; I think it is both reasonable and honorable to salute fallen veterans memorials wherever they may be.
I concur with my friend's MAJ Ken Landgren 1LT Peter Duston Maj Maria Avellaneda and SGT David Schrader responses,

Response by Sgt Mark Stonerock made Dec 24 at 2021 8:17 PM

Sgt Mark Stonerock — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 20:17:00 -0500

Frankly I can’t believe it took over two centuries to be codified as ‘approved’.

Response by SPC Chris Ison made Dec 25 at 2021 2:25 PM

SPC Chris Ison — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:25:37 -0500

Yes.

Response by PVT Edward Roselle made Dec 25 at 2021 2:28 PM

PVT Edward Roselle — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:28:42 -0500

As Far as Veterans go, they served, and are now out... What would anyone do? Going to give him an article ##? Verbal reprimand? Personally as a Veteran, I salute other Veterans and active personnel as a sign of respect, and brotherhood. As I myself am a Veteran, I'm honestly wondering what punishment i would receive? I mean if I want to salute someone who was in service, the flag, a memorial, the president, or even the Tomb of the Unknown, is there a penalty for me?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2021 5:43 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 17:43:20 -0500

I’m in civilian clothing. who cares what the regulation is about saluting or not. Show your respect if you Desire to do so

Response by SrA Barbara Johnson made Dec 26 at 2021 1:43 AM

SrA Barbara Johnson — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 01:43:16 -0500

Yes...Absolutely!!

Response by SPC David Paine made Dec 27 at 2021 1:26 PM

SPC David Paine — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 13:26:25 -0500

I do it all the time, feel like its my own personal preference.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2021 3:26 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 15:26:37 -0500

Do what brings honor to the service and your uniform. In the absence of specific regulation, you need to use your own judgement. I doubt any civilians know the exact regulations regarding salutes, and would likely find it inspiring and or heroic-looking. If you want to salute, then salute. It is your gesture of respect. If some SgtMaj or 1stSgt with something to prove gets mad at you, treat him or her with the professional courtesy and obedience to proper orders they are due. If you are looking nasty or are in a situation that would reflect poorly on the military, however, don't salute or make any military reference. The regulations are clear on that. Essentially, pay attention to optics.

Response by SSG Jim Blunt made Dec 28 at 2021 11:45 AM

SSG Jim Blunt — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 11:45:22 -0500

Having served my time in the military forces of the United States, I'll salute any fallen comrade or the flag, any time I choose to. Putting an amendment in the National Defense Authorization Act that tells me I can salute someone/something when I'm out of uniform, is about as effective as Joe Biden telling me that I can't get together with my family at Christmas. They are both worthless and ineffective and I'll do either one, any time I choose to.

Response by SPC William Szkromiuk made Dec 30 at 2021 1:54 AM

SPC William Szkromiuk — Thu, 30 Dec 2021 01:54:51 -0500

My own personal caveat is that I feel that I have to be wearing head gear and outdoors to render a hand salute. But that is just me.

Response by 1SG Michael Farrell made Dec 31 at 2021 1:35 AM

1SG Michael Farrell — Fri, 31 Dec 2021 01:35:35 -0500

Active duty, Reserve Component and Veterans are entitled and encouraged to render the hand salute when appropriate. Says something about how few of us there really are when you go to a ball game or monument, and see that very few of us do that. You show respect and honor and brotherhood regardless of what you do; but, you add gratitude for having the opportunity to serve shows in the salute.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Dec 31 at 2021 1:20 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:20:18 -0500

I would like to be clear on this subject. As a veteran or retiree, or Active, Reserve, Guard, or State Guard, you have the privilege of saluting. And a privilege it is. Prisoners are denied this privilege. This is what makes "Hogan's Heros" all the funnier; Col Hogan always saluted Klink, even though he did not (technically) have the right to do so.

The bottom line, here, is that you have the right to render a salute. It is your right, and you may exercise it as you see fit. I am retired. One day I was in a shopping mall and met some Navy in uniform. I spoke with them, briefly (courteous greeting, etc.). I identified myself, and let them see my ID Card. They rendered a salute, which I was proud to return.

My younger brother outranks me by time in grade (we're both retired). I tell my family that I salute him, not because I have to but because I want to.

So, yes. Render a salute if you feel comfortable in doing so. It is your right and privilege.

Response by SPC Joseph Weiss made Dec 31 at 2021 9:33 PM

SPC Joseph Weiss — Fri, 31 Dec 2021 21:33:51 -0500

Unless you are still in the service, you can salute a fallen comrade.

Response by Cpl Ernest Thomas made Jan 1 at 2022 4:57 PM

Cpl Ernest Thomas — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 16:57:45 -0500

https://www.military.com/flag-day/rules-for-saluting-us-flag.html

Rules for Saluting US Flag

Non uniformed servicemembers, military retirees, and veterans may render salute to flag.

Response by SPC Larry Weigel Jr. made Jan 23 at 2022 9:09 PM

SPC Larry Weigel Jr. — Sun, 23 Jan 2022 21:09:21 -0500

Yes, yes, yes, and YES!!! Once I knew about this regulation I availed myself if it and have used it with pride! We earned the right to tender the hand salute to our Flag, Anthem, and definitely to fallen comrades (even if we didn’t know them personally)! Don’t be afraid to render the salute when appropriate!

Response by SP5 George Smith made Jan 26 at 2022 4:57 AM

SP5 George Smith — Wed, 26 Jan 2022 04:57:18 -0500

The hand salute has become a symbol of respect as applied to our flag, appropriate military memorials, national anthem, and officers. Saluting our fallen, whether we knew them or not, has the added level emotions to the basis of respect. A gesture to honor our friends and fellow veterans serves the purpose of an offering to those we have a connection to and satisfies our own emotional need.

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Jan 31 at 2022 9:43 AM

SGT Juan Robledo — Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:43:32 -0500

I do and I have in the past, for me it's a sign of respect, not sure what's the issue with that ??

Response by SFC Lyle Green made Feb 1 at 2022 8:31 PM

SFC Lyle Green — Tue, 01 Feb 2022 20:31:21 -0500

Better salute any and all brothers in arms. No matter what one wares. A salute is from the heart regardless of what it is covered in

Response by MSgt Matt Hancock made Feb 2 at 2022 3:18 PM

MSgt Matt Hancock — Wed, 02 Feb 2022 15:18:31 -0500

So who, exactly, is going to stop a veteran from saluting? As someone mentioned (I think 6 years ago on this post) the policy/law was a waste of time. I have no qualms about saluting in civilian clothes for the National Anthem, or for fallen service members or even when I greet someone who served along with me.

Response by PVT Robert Cameron made Feb 3 at 2022 1:17 PM

PVT Robert Cameron — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 13:17:23 -0500

Yes, Saluting the fallen is out of respect for the ultimate sacrifice. We veterans and those still serving respect those who gave all. Salute them and be proud to do so.

Response by CPT John Baggs made Feb 4 at 2022 6:54 PM

CPT John Baggs — Fri, 04 Feb 2022 18:54:59 -0500

Honestly, if any veteran saluted in civilian clothes, no one should ever hold it against him/her, I've done it myself as a contractor for fallen Marines, and soldiers, and at funerals its a symbol of respect and frankly doesn't matter what you are wearing.

Response by SGT Cynthia Rouse made Feb 5 at 2022 9:17 AM

SGT Cynthia Rouse — Sat, 05 Feb 2022 09:17:15 -0500

That man's salute may have been his only opportunity to honor or say farewell to fallen or injured soldiers from his unit, loved ones or an emotional release of PTSD from a horrific, socially devicive war.

Response by SGM Willie Sanderson made Feb 5 at 2022 6:36 PM

SGM Willie Sanderson — Sat, 05 Feb 2022 18:36:58 -0500

I think it would be foolish and unpatriotic for anyone to ever say NO to a veteran or un-uniformed soldier to show their respect to a tribute to our fallen comrade. Giving a simple hand Salute is OUR way of silently saying thanks and we come and leave in peace My Brothers and Sisters.

Response by PO1 Paul Andrews made Feb 6 at 2022 9:31 PM

PO1 Paul Andrews — Sun, 06 Feb 2022 21:31:04 -0500

Yes

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2022 9:37 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 09:37:04 -0500

Here's the skinny...I don't give a rodents donkey about regulations. I WILL render proper military salutes when deemed appropriate, regardless of whether a regulation, law, or otherwise is contradictory. Those who served and covet their DD-214 have earned the right to pay military respect in whatever manner the individual deems appropriate. And I pity anyone attempting to stop me from saluting a fallen comrade in arms, a flag, or any other item I deem appropriate to receive a salute.

Response by SSG Raul Alaniz made Feb 8 at 2022 12:33 PM

SSG Raul Alaniz — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 12:33:02 -0500

You know something people, I enlisted at 18 y.o. and done My 20, as a Retire Veteran, I Love My Country, There is no greater country on earth, I salute with no law or with law, if I feel compel to render a "Salute" I WILL. No one will tell me any different. A "Salute to me means to give that Soldier, Sailor, Air Men/Women, Marine, Coast Guard, the Respect and Honor, from one to another. And to the Colors of the Red White and Blue, The President and Vice-President with Respect to their Office, and others in between. It's what you feel inside to know, to do the right thing. I "SALUTE" you ALL for serving our Great Country, past, present, and future. Have Great Day.

Response by CPL Sean Browning made Feb 8 at 2022 6:42 PM

CPL Sean Browning — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 18:42:43 -0500

I do it all the time it's a show of respect. I am a fourth generation veteran as a child my parents and grandfather always saluted the flags and I always seen veterans of all wars salute fallen comrades as well as the flag during the national anthem. It's tradition that all veterans are allowed to salute it's respectful. As an OIF veteran if I see a memorial I look at it as the list of heroes who paid the ultimate price while defending our freedoms and carrying the torch

Response by SFC Michael Lindenbusch made Mar 6 at 2022 1:04 PM

SFC Michael Lindenbusch — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 13:04:26 -0500

As the question asks "Can," I would emphatically say yes. There is nothing which prevents anyone from rendering such a token of respect, nor is there anything mandating it.

Response by MAJ Van Chase made Mar 11 at 2022 10:02 AM

MAJ Van Chase — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:02:56 -0500

Unless they recently changed something . Veterans have the option to salute in all situations. I know and do at every opportunity to render honor. We render honor when the flag is raised, the National Anthem is play and at Memorials to our fallen brothers and sisters .

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Mar 11 at 2022 10:24 AM

SPC Lyle Montgomery — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:24:28 -0500

I am a vietnam vet. I recently went to a friends funeral at a national VA cemetery. I did salute as did many of his other vet friends. I know that it is allowed, but really don't really give a damn if the govt. likes it or not. I have been honorably discharged for over 50 years and am a civilian now.

Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 11 at 2022 2:29 PM

LTC Ray Buenteo — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 14:29:42 -0500

Lol. Who is stop him? A SGM?

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Mar 11 at 2022 4:55 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:55:30 -0500

Of course he can! It's a sign of respect no matter what one is wearing. Look at it this way, every time I drive on base, in civilian clothes since I'm retired, the guard at the gate salutes me after checking my ID and I return it, same concept.

Response by Joe Lombardo made Mar 11 at 2022 6:19 PM

Joe Lombardo — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 18:19:58 -0500

Yes, under President Obama, law was passed that allows all military and Veterans to do so, specifically Saluting the Flag

Response by SPC Wendy Dunn made Mar 12 at 2022 9:17 AM

SPC Wendy Dunn — Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:17:33 -0500

My father passed away July 2021 he had been a Marine and I never had a chance to salute him while he was alive. I did not hesitate to salute him at the cemetery. I wanted to honor my father so I did. I have since found that it is alright to do so but at the time I really didn't care it felt right so I did so.

Response by SP6 Cole Tierney made Mar 12 at 2022 6:28 PM

SP6 Cole Tierney — Sat, 12 Mar 2022 18:28:05 -0500

Always! Once a vet, always a vet. Our service transcends uniform protocol.

Response by SGT Doug Blanchard made Apr 1 at 2022 6:49 PM

SGT Doug Blanchard — Fri, 01 Apr 2022 18:49:42 -0400

I pity the fool that tries to stop me from doing so. As they opened a can of whoop ass and I will do my damn best to whoop their ass.

Response by SPC Julio R. made Apr 3 at 2022 1:15 PM

SPC Julio R. — Sun, 03 Apr 2022 13:15:32 -0400

REGS OR NOT I GOT A BIG MIDDLE FINGER FOR THE CODE OF CONDUCT. IF I WANT TO SALUTE IN A CLOWN SUIT OR CHIANS AND WHIPS IT'S NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS HOW OR IN WHAT I SALUTE A FALLEN COMRADE IN.
IT IS A GESTURE OF PURE RESPECT. NOT TRYING TO SOLVE THE WORLDS HUNGER.

WALK UP RENDER YOUR SALUTE, ABOUT FACE AND KEEP IT MOVING.......

SOMEONE HAS A PROBLEM JUST KEEP WALKING....

Response by AN Michael Wilder made Apr 16 at 2022 4:59 PM

AN Michael Wilder — Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:59:25 -0400

When my grandfather, a WWII Army veteran and who was well loved and respected by many was laid to rest, he was given a military funeral and when Taps was played, myself, my brother, our step dad and every other person there ( there was a large contingent from our VFW post of which he was a long-time commander) who were veterans, none of whom were in uniform and without any prior conversation about it, popped tall and rendered the hand salute and there wasn’t a rule, reg, or sumbitch big enough to stop a single one of us from doing it. I think it’s ingrained in us from our AD days and it’s the highest honor we can give to each other in those moments. So, I say, if it strikes you as the thing to do, then do it, and if anyone has the audacity to say anything about it afterwards, refer them here and I’m sure that there will be a long line of us who will set them straight.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2022 9:05 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Apr 2022 21:05:27 -0400

A person not uniformed of which you know not their past or present military affiliation can make whatever gesture with their hands as they desire...

Response by PFC Alan Moore made May 6 at 2022 12:01 PM

PFC Alan Moore — Fri, 06 May 2022 12:01:30 -0400

I salute the flag when the anthem plays and when we recite the pledge. Nobody has ever said that I couldn't or even questioned me. I think it would go to our first amendment protections but even so, we've earned the right.

Response by PO3 Noble Simpson Jackson made May 7 at 2022 1:24 AM

PO3 Noble Simpson Jackson — Sat, 07 May 2022 01:24:06 -0400

If someone tried to stop me they had better "Check their self, before they wreck their self "

Response by SFC William Linnell made May 8 at 2022 10:18 AM

SFC William Linnell — Sun, 08 May 2022 10:18:16 -0400

Hey. Honestly, I never thought anything about it. I did it for 27+ years on active duty. I conducted about 40 military funerals, so many times conducting reveille, retreat, 3 tours, I did it out of respect and it was custom n courtesies. Plus as a Veteran it is our responsibility to pay honor to our flag and fallen comrades. No one can tell me otherwise. especially some ass clown politician.

Going to sporting events, I was never in uniform and always saluted when they presented the colors and the National Anthem. No one around me said anything against. So unless your one of those hate n discontent jackoffs, then.....you're on your own. I've got no time for you.

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made May 8 at 2022 5:14 PM

A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney — Sun, 08 May 2022 17:14:18 -0400

As You Stated SPC ???....
"So my question is actually coming from me as I've felt compelled to salute as well, but have refrained as I'm not sure what is correct"
SCREW A Bunch Of "CORRECT" Crap:
We're All Brothers Deserving Of Giving Each Other, Both Our Respect And Love
SNAP That Right Hand To Your Forehead Where You Wish, And Where It Belongs

Response by SSG David Angell made May 8 at 2022 8:37 PM

SSG David Angell — Sun, 08 May 2022 20:37:19 -0400

Salute! Veterans can now salute while in civilian attires. Same goes for retirees and active duty personnel.
Like everything else, things change, and sometimes for the better.
I salute for the national anthem and at funerals. I had done this long before it came into law or a regulation.

Response by Ray Barraquias made May 8 at 2022 8:43 PM

Ray Barraquias — Sun, 08 May 2022 20:43:02 -0400

To respect soldier

Response by SGT Gary Stemen made May 9 at 2022 6:51 PM

SGT Gary Stemen — Mon, 09 May 2022 18:51:22 -0400

It is a very personal thing. Any veteran may have a deep connection with persons being honored, just as non-veterans have when placing stones or coins on on headstones. Saluting is second nature to veterans....

Response by Cpl Bradly Stott made May 11 at 2022 4:46 PM

Cpl Bradly Stott — Wed, 11 May 2022 16:46:26 -0400

My father is buried in a national Cemetery. When I go to visit him, I ALWAYS toss him a highball. If you don't like it, if you think it improper, that's fine.
Just don't watch.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2022 10:29 PM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2022 22:29:28 -0400

Absolutely. My veterans motorcycle group does it routinely when we do flag lines. I do it in and out of uniform. I rendered the hand salute to the urn that held the ashes of an army buddy who took his own life. I will do it again this weekend at drill for one of the guys in my unit passed away in his sleep last month just before drill.

Response by SSgt Kelly D. made May 24 at 2022 7:40 PM

SSgt Kelly D. — Tue, 24 May 2022 19:40:53 -0400

Yes

Response by PO1 Jim Fuller made Jun 29 at 2022 6:30 PM

PO1 Jim Fuller — Wed, 29 Jun 2022 18:30:46 -0400

I grew up on military bases around the world, stopping and coming to attention is the norm... at events I stand at attention as well and leave the hand over the heart for the civilians. My Sr. Chief Petty Officer father taught me and my brother how to salute before we left for USN boot camp. It'll be great to do that again now that politicians have blessed the custom.

Response by CPL Raul Perez Jr made Jul 3 at 2022 9:28 PM

CPL Raul Perez Jr — Sun, 03 Jul 2022 21:28:32 -0400

This change adds to a provision which was passed in the 2008 Defense Bill, which authorized veterans and military personnel in civilian clothes to render the military salute during the raising, lowering or passing of the flag.Jun 5, 2018

Response by PO2 Richard Rulong made Aug 4 at 2022 12:42 AM

PO2 Richard Rulong — Thu, 04 Aug 2022 00:42:46 -0400

I’m a veteran and no dam defense authorization act is gonna tell me what I can do. Next your gonna try and strip me of my discharge. Country’s went to hell along with how the military’s run. Good luck with your reforming of the country and volunteer force which is disappearing for good reason. No offense to brothers in arms.

Response by MSgt Thomas O'Rourke made Aug 5 at 2022 12:50 PM

MSgt Thomas O'Rourke — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 12:50:37 -0400

The obligation to render proper respect far outweighs the former protocol of having a hat on. Salute smartly and show the proper military customs and courtesies.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2022 11:29 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:29:06 -0400

The whole point of it, was to render a show of respect. It is really quite simple.
I realize this will probably provoke a number of others but I don’t really care. With that, I shall poke the topic with the stick:
Understandably, new enlisted, due to having it beat into the brain, get the “regulations are now the law of my life”. This makes sense, they are transitioning into a world far more bound by regulations and the consequences of not following them.
And also understandably, as the career progresses, the longer they live in a world tightly bound by regs.
This leads to forgetting a simple fact.
Civilians are not bound by them. Once you get that DD-214 in hand (with limited exceptions, for those ready to pounce lol), you are not bound by them.
I see so many posts about civ/post enlistment themes on the salute, wearing of uniform items, etc.
Guess what..they can so pretty much whatever the little heart desires. Regs do not apply.
Hard concept to wrap the brain around right?
Since regs don’t apply, this simple question solves 90% of these, can/should type situations.
Was he being disrespectful? Of course not. He was honoring the fallen.
This hang up of civilians on when or not when to salute…is idiotic. I have yet so see one do it with a disrespectful intent (although I admit, some asshat out there probably has).
Now, currently enlisted, in civilian clothing…
Yes then a reg applies. And that is not something i am disputing and it should apply. Because you are IN service. But this trying to apply regs to those not in service…
Sigh. Just give it a rest.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2022 8:36 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 20:36:46 -0400

Wish someone would.

Response by SGT Paul Russo made Aug 7 at 2022 8:38 PM

SGT Paul Russo — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 20:38:05 -0400

Sometimes ya just gotta do the right thing,

Response by SMSgt Clayton Cortinas made Aug 9 at 2022 8:22 AM

SMSgt Clayton Cortinas — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 08:22:04 -0400

The dictates of my heart, mind, soul and sense of respect for the fallen and/or the flag overrides whether or not there's any regulation "allowing" me permission to render honors.

Response by SMSgt Clayton Cortinas made Aug 9 at 2022 8:25 AM

SMSgt Clayton Cortinas — Tue, 09 Aug 2022 08:25:08 -0400

The dictates of my heart, mind and soul moves me to render honor to the fallen and/or the flag whether or not there's any regulation allowing to do so. Period!

Response by SGT Erick Holmes made Aug 11 at 2022 6:24 AM

SGT Erick Holmes — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 06:24:02 -0400

If there is a regulation then I break it all the time. These are your brothers and sisters who had to pay the ultimate price so that we (current and future veterans) can reap the benefits and enjoy the everyday living. I can't tell anyone what to do however, if I was still in it would be my mission to salute fallen Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, or Airmen for ta few seconds and not care what the punishment (if there is one) would be

Response by SP5 Donna Barr made Sep 12 at 2022 5:30 PM

SP5 Donna Barr — Mon, 12 Sep 2022 17:30:18 -0400

People, as citizens you're the Commander In Chief - you didn't learn about the Chain of Command? You can put on a pink kilt and dance the Black Bottom with appropriate underwear if you think it will amuse your Fallen Comrades. Don't blame me if they get up and ask you to buy beer.

Response by CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2022 11:08 PM

CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 23:08:57 -0400

Yes, you can salute. This was passed into law under George W Bush. We can salute each other and our flag while in civies. So next time you're at the ball game and the anthem comes up put your fingers to your brow instead of over your heart.
When I worked in MSP I used to stop my walk and salute the flag and the national cemetery every day knowing the law made clear we can do this act of respect and brotherhood.

Response by Sgt Justin Vickers made Sep 14 at 2022 1:33 PM

Sgt Justin Vickers — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 13:33:23 -0400

Yes. I am a veteran, and I still salute the anthem/flag. I salute vets i see wearing their Vietnam campaign caps, i even salute my daughter's JROTC captain, who by the way was a legit war hero. My enlistment may have ended, but my honor and respect for my brethren remains.

Response by SGT James LeFebvre made Sep 18 at 2022 2:20 AM

SGT James LeFebvre — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 02:20:44 -0400

Yes, if the SM or vet chooses to in civvies, their choice. I do.

Response by Sgt R Scott made Sep 18 at 2022 1:38 PM

Sgt R Scott — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 13:38:46 -0400

It’s NOT against the law! As a civilian NO one has the Authority to tell me I can’t. “It’s my party and I can salute if I want to”. The younger guys/ gals may not get my quote.

Response by SPC Jason Hurst made Oct 13 at 2022 1:12 PM

SPC Jason Hurst — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:12:13 -0400

This isn't a dumb question and I salute you for asking. It shows respect on your part for seeking knowledge. I've always saluted monuments to the fallen and, frankly, I've always saluted our brethren who served in conflicts before my time. To me, it shows deep and abiding respect to both the fallen and those who gave so much of their lives to serve.

Response by SGT Tim Dickinson made Oct 13 at 2022 4:34 PM

SGT Tim Dickinson — Thu, 13 Oct 2022 16:34:15 -0400

My father passed away 3 years ago. He was a full Colonel, retired from US Army and National Guard. Me and my brothers, all veterans, rendered the hand salute at his funeral while in civilian clothes.

Response by SSgt Brad Shipp made Oct 14 at 2022 2:37 PM

SSgt Brad Shipp — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 14:37:43 -0400

The real question is who’s going to stop you? I’m pretty sure nobody has ever been arrested or cited for giving a salute. If you feel compelled to render a salute then do it.

Response by Col Jeffrey Swegel made Oct 14 at 2022 3:41 PM

Col Jeffrey Swegel — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:41:24 -0400

So……for a retiree of a prior military, what does it matter? Rules and regs don’t apply to them They’re just honoring comrades

Response by CPL T.A. Nelson made Oct 15 at 2022 9:13 PM

CPL T.A. Nelson — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 21:13:32 -0400

In respect to those still serving I don't salute but the clothing does not denote who should receive the honor of a salute. It is not uncommon for children to salute as they have seen adults do so, doesn't change the respect shown...

Response by Lt Col Bill Fletcher made Oct 15 at 2022 9:44 PM

Lt Col Bill Fletcher — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 21:44:51 -0400

Of course you can. Don’t even think twice about it.

Response by SP5 Michael Lewis made Oct 28 at 2022 7:55 PM

SP5 Michael Lewis — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 19:55:15 -0400

In my opinion it is you as a veteran od AD personnel paying your respects. I had no idea that you were not allowed. I did it at my dads funeral when the honor guard did his ceremonies. I don't think just because you are not in proper military attire, you can't salute. While in the military, I performed in over 75 funerals for military and veterans, of course all, we were in uniform, but I also notice others in civilian attire saluting. It sorts tugs at my heart to think it is either dumb or unprofessional. Once you are in the military, you are always reminded of your responsibilities to your country.

Response by SGT Robert Martin made Nov 13 at 2022 4:24 AM

SGT Robert Martin — Sun, 13 Nov 2022 04:24:26 -0500

At least they would render a proper salute. If your working as a military advisor on a movie or TV show. For the love of God take fifteen minutes to teach these actors how to properly salute. It's embarrassing really. Is a vet or current service member permitted to salute a memorial? Why would them saluting a memorial bother you? A few years back a young boy stood at Omaha beach saluting the ocean. Everyone was moved by this. A photo of him went viral. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Response by Sgt Stephen Chiles made Nov 23 at 2022 4:53 AM

Sgt Stephen Chiles — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:53:22 -0500

Absolutely they can. I am a member of two veteran focused organizations; Rolling Thunder Inc., KY Chapter 5 and Patriot Guard Riders. Both groups pay homage to the Missing In Action and the fallen and stand for the service member(s) during events, services or funerals. Both groups have also researched this extensively to know what members who are veterans can or cannot do especially during these events.

I render a proper hand salute to not only pay my respects to those missing or lost, I do during Taps or the National Anthem because my oath has never expired.

Response by SSG William Hommel made Dec 13 at 2022 2:01 PM

SSG William Hommel — Tue, 13 Dec 2022 14:01:59 -0500

Never hesitate to salute a fallen warrior. Period full stop.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 15 at 2022 6:39 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:39:21 -0500

Wow why even ask that question. The hell with and laws rule blah blah bs. A soldier died for our country. Gave the ultimate sacrifice. You render that salute show the respect. The f what others think or say. Hold a soldier in your arms as they die. Then tell me I can't or shouldn't salute. You will get the good old go f yourself.

Response by SPC James Johnson made Dec 15 at 2022 4:40 PM

SPC James Johnson — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:40:44 -0500

It to me is a very distinct HONOR to be able to SALUTE the Military service that myself and countless others have given our lives to , serving our country, our flag, our branch of service no matter what branch it is/was you were in, And most of all, OUR BROTHER AND SISTER SERVICE MEMBERS! We are all a family and a brotherhood that joins together for the one most important cause.... Our Freedom of the United States of America!✝️

Response by SFC Barbara Layman made Dec 17 at 2022 12:05 PM

SFC Barbara Layman — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 12:05:16 -0500

"Can soldiers in civilian clothes salute..." Emphasis on the word 'Can.'

If you are asking for permission. The answer is 'yes.'
If you are asking if it's appropriate. The answer is 'yes.'
If you are asking whether it's authorized. What difference does it make?
Veterans in civilian clothes have been saluting at gravesites for years - no need to explain as it is obvious that they are showing respect for a fallen comrade.

Response by SGM Ronald Cheatom made Dec 17 at 2022 7:48 PM

SGM Ronald Cheatom — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 19:48:45 -0500

Everyone listen up. I don't give 2 sh$ts about regulations, laws, or whatever butt hurt people who have bis chips on their shoulders, and feel compelled to call out posers, and stolen valor have to say about it. At every event, be it a football game, memorial service, or whatever. I am a veteran, and I have the utmost respect for all who have served, and especially those who gave it all, so I will, no matter how I am dressed, render a salute. Leave it alone. That is a sign of respect goint back over a thousand years or more. You do not own it, you are in no position to police it. Leave it alone.

Response by SFC R. Lee Linebarger made Dec 17 at 2022 8:05 PM

SFC R. Lee Linebarger — Sat, 17 Dec 2022 20:05:19 -0500

Simple put, yes. Let no other tell you otherwise.

Response by MSgt George Fillgrove made Dec 18 at 2022 8:56 AM

MSgt George Fillgrove — Sun, 18 Dec 2022 08:56:27 -0500

Why wouldn't you. Do we have to have a federal law to show respect of a comrade? Remember this. Joining any one of the nine uniformed branches of this country is ALWAYS an answer to a calling. We are changed forever, and the bonds of that comradeship extend far beyond our time in service.

Response by SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt made Dec 25 at 2022 12:52 PM

SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt — Sun, 25 Dec 2022 12:52:35 -0500

Absolutely, a gesture of respect is never out of line

Response by CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana made Mar 3 at 2023 5:56 AM

CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana — Fri, 03 Mar 2023 05:56:09 -0500

Specialist Pereira,

Saluting our fallen heroes, whether in uniform or civilian attire is Honor and Respect. The law authorizes me to Salute, so why not?

Response by LCpl Jeff Moore made Mar 5 at 2023 9:58 PM

LCpl Jeff Moore — Sun, 05 Mar 2023 21:58:47 -0500

Yes, any that say no is a idiot

Response by SP5 Dennis Dorsey made Mar 9 at 2023 1:03 PM

SP5 Dennis Dorsey — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 13:03:59 -0500

I do it to show my respect and honor their sacrifice.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Mar 9 at 2023 8:41 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Thu, 09 Mar 2023 20:41:52 -0500

Umm...lemme think abo-YES!

Response by SFC Kory Schaubhut made Mar 10 at 2023 12:46 PM

SFC Kory Schaubhut — Fri, 10 Mar 2023 12:46:21 -0500

Can you actually imagine getting in trouble for doing so?

Response by SGT C Reed made Apr 29 at 2023 12:59 PM

SGT C Reed — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 12:59:44 -0400

Yes. Screw 'the law' or whatever tradition. This is America. We have a constitutional right to express ourselves and one should NEVER feel guilty about showing honor and respect to another person, in whatever way feels appropriate at the time. What are you going to do? Go home and change your clothes? No. If you feel saluting is the most honorable way to express your respect, then do it. If you feel it is saying hello and shaking his hand. Do that too.
Don't ever get hung up on protocol when it comes to being kind. Even if you are in uniform, always do the right thing over the 'traditional'. Sure, there's a time and place to 'play the game' and follow all the customs and rules, obviously, but in real life, you need to use your mind and heart and adjust to circumstances.

Response by SSgt Bob Mobbs made Apr 29 at 2023 10:16 PM

SSgt Bob Mobbs — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 22:16:00 -0400

I was at a military funeral for a retired Navy Master Chief. The Chaplain who was conducting the service made it a point to to let any veterans attending the service that they were permitted to render the hand salute as Taps were played. I imagine this would also apply to saluting a fallen comrade.

Response by SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt made May 1 at 2023 3:46 PM

SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt — Mon, 01 May 2023 15:46:43 -0400

In light of all the craziness out there, showing your respect by saluting in or out of uniform does not matter in my eyes. I salute the national anthem each time

Response by SSG Ken Potts made May 3 at 2023 8:14 PM

SSG Ken Potts — Wed, 03 May 2023 20:14:14 -0400

Yes they can.

Response by Cpl Tyler F. made Jun 1 at 2023 8:46 AM

Cpl Tyler F. — Thu, 01 Jun 2023 08:46:17 -0400

At the very least, don't salute unless you have a cover (Marines only)

Response by SPC David Paine made Jun 3 at 2023 9:24 AM

SPC David Paine — Sat, 03 Jun 2023 09:24:33 -0400

Absolutely can, I do it every time I walk past the deceased veterans memorial hanging on the wall at in my walmart store

Response by SGT Doug Blanchard made Jul 3 at 2023 7:37 PM

SGT Doug Blanchard — Mon, 03 Jul 2023 19:37:48 -0400

All I am going to say is, JUST LET SOMEONE TRY TO STOP ME. As they have just opened a can of whoop and up.

Response by LCpl Glenn Kellar made Oct 2 at 2023 8:52 PM

LCpl Glenn Kellar — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 20:52:51 -0400

A salute is gesture of respect. That respect transcends our clothes. Anyone who takes offense is wrong...

Response by SGT Erick Holmes made Oct 3 at 2023 6:29 PM

SGT Erick Holmes — Tue, 03 Oct 2023 18:29:00 -0400

Even if I wasn't allow to salute a fallen brother or sister I would have done it anyways and take the consequences later if any. But I'm pretty sure not discipline would have taken. Maybe a friendly reminder at the time we couldn't a salute not no discipline would have taken place. And besides its your fallen brother or sister that made the ultimate sacrifice to pass on our values and freedom for us to make the change and difference. You really think someone would say something on rendering a salute?

Response by SGT Steve Weaver made Oct 21 at 2023 10:04 AM

SGT Steve Weaver — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 10:04:11 -0400

Not only "Yes!" But Heck Yeah!

Response by Cpl Vic Burk made Oct 21 at 2023 7:52 PM

Cpl Vic Burk — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 19:52:09 -0400

I don't care what anyone says, I will do it as long as I have a cover on my head (in accordance with Marine Corps regulation, Marine's don't salute without a cover on their head).

Response by SGT Joseph Dutton made Oct 21 at 2023 11:30 PM

SGT Joseph Dutton — Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:30:42 -0400

Yes!

Response by 1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) made Oct 22 at 2023 11:35 AM

1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) — Sun, 22 Oct 2023 11:35:22 -0400

A salute is given to pay respect or to honor. I don't care if it is done by a veteran or somebody that never served a second of time in the military. I would never question their right to salute the Fallen Warriors Memorial or any other memorial. In fact, I would respect the person for doing so.

Response by Capt Bruce Kramer made Oct 24 at 2023 8:15 PM

Capt Bruce Kramer — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 20:15:59 -0400

Never crossed my mind not to salute. I do it at every funeral for a fellow service member that I officiate at, and at ones I just attend. My last service included a 2-Star and a few Eagles in attendance at the church and at the graveside. As the flag was folded and taps played I (in my clerical clothing) stood at attention and saluted with the 2-Star and Eagles. The General later thanked me for my service and appreciated my showing of respect.... going on to say he thought it most appropriate whether in or out of uniform.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Oct 24 at 2023 10:50 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:50:03 -0400

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Definitely yes!

Response by SCPO Glen Dutcher made Oct 25 at 2023 10:21 PM

SCPO Glen Dutcher — Wed, 25 Oct 2023 22:21:09 -0400

Stop waiting for permission for things. If it feels right, do it . Nobody needs a regulation or a law to show respect.

Response by Sgt Sheri Lynn made Oct 26 at 2023 3:42 AM

Sgt Sheri Lynn — Thu, 26 Oct 2023 03:42:02 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member your question and survey really baffles me. Honoring a veteran with a salute? Let's have MORE!

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2023 8:26 AM

SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 08:26:44 -0500

I don't need someone whom I don't respect (politicians) telling me how and who I can show my respect to.

Response by TSgt Robert Wayne made Dec 4 at 2023 5:28 PM

TSgt Robert Wayne — Mon, 04 Dec 2023 17:28:43 -0500

Law or no law. Who's going stop me? Mind ya bizness! LoL

Response by SSG Douglas Shaffer made Dec 5 at 2023 2:20 PM

SSG Douglas Shaffer — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:20:22 -0500

Could a Spc4 get their a** beat if they don't.

Response by PO3 Nicholas Bennett made Dec 5 at 2023 3:41 PM

PO3 Nicholas Bennett — Tue, 05 Dec 2023 15:41:08 -0500

My opinion on this is YES, SALUTE. It's in honor to those who have paid the highest sacrifice you can possibly give, they deserve it no matter what that person is wearing. It could be a halloween costume for all I care, I'm going to show I was thankful someone was willing to commit that sacrifice. If I was in that grave I would want someone to salute me, I gave my all when I was still in, at the point of loosing my mom during a deployment. Show me my sacrifice meant something, I wouldnt care what you wore.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Dec 6 at 2023 11:50 PM

1SG James Kelly — Wed, 06 Dec 2023 23:50:11 -0500

Yes; always did. Who is going to say no or stop us?

Response by PO2 Gene Cochran made Dec 7 at 2023 6:27 PM

PO2 Gene Cochran — Thu, 07 Dec 2023 18:27:54 -0500

Yes we can. It was approved about 5-8 years ago. I have at a funeral, proud to do it. Vets have a special bond w mates.

Response by CPL Sean Browning made Dec 26 at 2023 7:37 PM

CPL Sean Browning — Tue, 26 Dec 2023 19:37:25 -0500

I am a combat veteran and a fourth generation veteran. As a kid I always saluted out respect my parents and grandfather never corrected me when I did out of respect. When I was in boy scouts and had honor guard duty I watched veterans from WW2 Korea and Vietnam standing at attention and saluting the flag during ceremonies as away to honor those who paid the ultimate sacrifice. It's always been an unwritten rule or a tradition to honor our country and our fallen comrades who never made it home. I didn't fully understand till I fought in Iraq why it's so important to respect and honor the true heroes among us. You also never know there battle buddy could be on that list

Response by CPT Phillip Cole made Dec 28 at 2023 1:43 PM

CPT Phillip Cole — Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:43:32 -0500

Showing respect is always appropriate...

Response by CPL Gary Dishman made Dec 29 at 2023 12:48 PM

CPL Gary Dishman — Fri, 29 Dec 2023 12:48:49 -0500

I ride with the patriot guard riders and we always Salute for thing's such as this whether we are invited by the family's. But as far as myself I will salute thing's like that besides nobody has to know your in the military as you may have a family member that's in our has died who out of respect for us is saluting .

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2023 10:17 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 10:17:57 -0500

YES.
Saluting is a sign of respect. Be proud that you are able to do it.

Response by PO2 Joan MacNeill made Dec 31 at 2023 4:02 PM

PO2 Joan MacNeill — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 16:02:55 -0500

Once in the ancient misty past, I was an ignorant young sailor. I wanted to please and do the right things. I asked an old salt if it was OK to do something I've long forgotten. But I never forgot his reply: "Did anyone say you couldn't?" I can't think of anyone saying anyone can't salute in civvies, except those excrement-for-brains morons cited in this post. They don't count. So I saute whenever it's appropriate. Even (gasp) uncovered, which sailors don't do.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2023 8:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 31 Dec 2023 20:43:39 -0500

It's odd that this is even a question, but good for the Specialist to ask, as he obviously wants to do the right thing, and shows an absolute regard for military discipline. Yes, salute all fellow service members and especially those that have given their lives in service to this country whenever you feel obliged, whether in uniform or out. You are a warrior saluting a fellow warrior, and that trumps all.

Response by SMSgt Michael Gleason made Jan 4 at 2024 12:29 PM

SMSgt Michael Gleason — Thu, 04 Jan 2024 12:29:27 -0500

WHO is going to arrest ANYone for saluting?! (...well, unless it's the "one-finger salute".)

Response by SGT Christiphor Ballestero made Jan 8 at 2024 4:30 PM

SGT Christiphor Ballestero — Mon, 08 Jan 2024 16:30:18 -0500

When I do the Wreaths Across America with my VFW Riders Group, we always say the name of the Fallen, address him/her, SALUTE, and thank them for their Service. I may or may not have even had a short conversation with the Fallen, just letting them know that They ARE NOT FORGOTTEN.

Response by PFC Sharon Gordon-Johns made Feb 25 at 2024 9:38 PM

PFC Sharon Gordon-Johns — Sun, 25 Feb 2024 21:38:50 -0500

No matter whether your are serving or have been of service. We will always honor our country and other who have fallen in duty. When we sign on the dotted line remember that at anytime they can call us back to duty. This is the price we all who served was willing to pay to protect like our forefather the right of freedom and the belief of keeping our freedom alive. This was never a 9 to 5 job.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Mar 19 at 2024 6:06 AM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 06:06:37 -0400

YES - I saluted at my father's funeral and have always saluted other vet's. I've even saluted Police, Firefighters, EMS, and many other professions that give theirselves and in some cases - their all - to their communities.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Mar 20 at 2024 11:38 AM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 11:38:59 -0400

YES

Response by CPT John Baggs made Mar 25 at 2024 9:23 AM

CPT John Baggs — Mon, 25 Mar 2024 09:23:26 -0400

Anyone telling someone they can’t salute needs to find better things to do with their time, seriously.
It’s a sign of respect, no mater who you are.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 1 at 2024 2:30 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Mon, 01 Apr 2024 14:30:28 -0400

The answer is at the 2:30 mark of the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MYxtpGxGJI

Gladiator opening scene

Response by PO1 Don Uhrig made May 5 at 2024 11:51 AM

PO1 Don Uhrig — Sun, 05 May 2024 11:51:11 -0400

I am a 20-year Navy combat veteran. I render a hand salute during the National Anthem, at the raing and lowering of the stars & stripes, and when Taps are played at a funeral. If I have the opportunity to visit the grave of a comrade I would indeed render a salute.

People who have never been in the military, or served in a combat zone where you don't even fly the colors due to the threats surrounding you, those people cannot understand what it means to US.

Response by CPO Kenneth Reece made May 6 at 2024 3:01 PM

CPO Kenneth Reece — Mon, 06 May 2024 15:01:44 -0400

Should you be wearing a cover in
civvies to render a salute to my flag?

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Jun 27 at 2024 11:25 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:25:12 -0400

Let's be clear on this. Saluting is a PRIVILEGE, not a duty. People who are being punished (i.e. confined to a prison, or a POW) do NOT get to salute. When you salute, you are identifying yourself as being part of a SELECT class of citizen.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Jul 5 at 2024 9:37 PM

SMSgt Jeff Kyle — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 21:37:42 -0400

When my kids were in high school, the JROTC kids would retire the colors each day at the end of the school day. I was always waiting by the front of the school for my kids. When they started lowering the flag, I rendered a salute and held it until the flag was properly folded. I did that for 7 years. I kinda miss those days.

Response by MSgt Neil Greenfield made Jul 9 at 2024 8:34 PM

MSgt Neil Greenfield — Tue, 09 Jul 2024 20:34:39 -0400

Saluting is not reserved for only the military. Police and Fire Departments salute each other, especially during funeral services for fallen comrades. Non-military organizations such as Coast Guard Auxiliary, Civil Air Patrol, Maritime officers, etc., regularly salute. It's a centuries old tradition. It's also freedom of speech.
I say salute to your hearts content.

Response by Capt John Schmitt made Sep 11 at 2024 12:06 AM

Capt John Schmitt — Wed, 11 Sep 2024 00:06:07 -0400

Is appropriate and preferrable to render a proper salute. Military and Veterans have earned the right to render a salute.

Response by PO1 Todd B. made Sep 12 at 2024 1:31 PM

PO1 Todd B. — Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:31:57 -0400

US Military Active duty and Veterans are authorized to Salute when not in uniform at any event where the National Anthem is played or any funeral where honors are rendered to a service member that has died.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Oct 12 at 2024 12:41 AM

LTC Stephen F. — Sat, 12 Oct 2024 00:41:45 -0400

Yes, because they are able to salute the National Colors it seems perfectly reasonable to be able to salute fallen comrades memorials, especially if they served in that combat theater/operation SPC Private RallyPoint Member
FYI CPO Raymond Shaw, MBA and thanks to SCPO Shane Rank for posting the iconic john F Kennedy Jr saluting his father's casket.
I concur with my friends responses SGM Mikel Dawson LTC Marc King LTC Paul Labrador Capt Private RallyPoint Member CPT Pedro Meza CSM Charles Hayden 1LT William Clardy SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS SPC James Harsh PO3 Steven Sherrill SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SSgt Private RallyPoint Member CPT Richard Riley MSgt Private RallyPoint Member Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen and my deceased friend and brother-in-Christ SP5 Mark Kuzinski

Response by SGT Lorenzo Nieto made Oct 30 at 2024 7:12 AM

SGT Lorenzo Nieto — Wed, 30 Oct 2024 07:12:07 -0400

The fallen from every war are the true heroes and as for me they all should be saluted,theses are the men and women who can not salut regardless of what anyone thinks I lost many friends in Vietnam I’ll never forget them.

Response by LTC Tom Jones made Oct 30 at 2024 8:02 AM

LTC Tom Jones — Wed, 30 Oct 2024 08:02:38 -0400

Yes

Response by SGT James Murphy made Oct 30 at 2024 6:47 PM

SGT James Murphy — Wed, 30 Oct 2024 18:47:32 -0400

Yes, I do this every time I visit the cemetery in Peshtigo Wisconsin. Lost 5 buddies in 3 weeks.