Can Ncos require pregnant soldiers to participate in monthly ASU/AGSU inspections?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 11:35:31 -0400

I’m currently pregnant and per army dir 2022-06 I can’t be forced to wear ASU’s or AGSU’s. With that being said I have an Nco that is trying to require me to participate in a monthly ASU/AGSU inspection. Does this goes against the Army Dir or is this allowed because it’s an inspection of the uniform?

Response by COL Dan Ruder made Jun 11 at 2023 2:16 PM

COL Dan Ruder — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 14:16:07 -0400

SPC Grant, the question you pose is quite common. BLUF: Give your NCOs and chain of command an opportunity to learn from this, as you will learn from it too as a future NCO.

On 19 April 2022, the Secretary of the Army signed Army Directive 2022-06, which provided updates to parenthood policies. Regarding uniforms, this AD states that "Commanders and supervisors will not require Soldiers to wear ASUs/AGSUs while pregnant and 365 days postpartum." See para 4.c.2.a.

EDIT ADD: Having your uniform inspected is NOT against this AD. If you have to WEAR the uniform for inspection and you are pregnant or postpartum <= 365 days, then yes, it violates this AD.

Some younger commanders and NCOs may not have a lot of experience yet with policies pertaining to parenthood, pregnancy, and postpartum. My recommendation: show your NCO/supervisor the AD and the para. The AD makes it very clear. That should be the end of it. If not, ask your commander/1SG/CSM to please check with the Inspector General (IG) to ensure the AD is being followed appropriately. You could always go to the IG yourself, but I think that being a member of a team also means that you should give your chain of command an opportunity first. I hope this makes sense.
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN35255-ARMY_DIR_2022-06-000-WEB-1.pdf

ARN35255-ARMY_DIR_2022-06-000-WEB-1.pdf

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Jun 11 at 2023 4:04 PM

MAJ Ronnie Reams — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 16:04:57 -0400

I am surprised Army not have pg uniforms. It used to have fatigues, cords and greens cut for pg women.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2023 5:05 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 17:05:26 -0400

Yes, you may be required to participate in monthly ASU/AGSU. However, that does not mean you have to wear the uniform. Direct them to the regulation/directive that precludes you from wearing a uniform. If you want to protect yourself from further abuse dig into the regulations. Learn them inside and out. Keep up to date on all updates. It will help you though out your career. A couple of months ago I had to communicate with Army G1 on an issue with DFAS refusing to pay DLA twice in one year. They paid it but not until I showed them in the JTR where they were wrong. It took three months but they paid up.
BTW, try to use a little tact when addressing the issue with your command.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Jun 11 at 2023 11:09 PM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Sun, 11 Jun 2023 23:09:14 -0400

As COL Private RallyPoint Member and COL Dan Ruder alluded, you can still participate without wearing the uniform. We used to call the a "hanger inspection." You still bring you complete class ASU/AGSU, properly pressed, with footwear properly shined and appropriately headgear. ASU/AGSU jacket should be set up completely, according to regs. All awards, badges, name plate, unit awards, rank, etc. Then when everyone else is in their dress uniform, you are in your maternity ACUs, and holding your uniform, on hanger. If you are too deep in pregnancy for extended standing g, you sit to the side, with your uniform laid out on a table.

We used to have ASU inspection every month. Invariably, there would be one or two people who could not do it IN uniform, because of training or pregnancy or whatever. But they would still have it on a hanger. It should not be a completely unknown phenomenon.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Jun 12 at 2023 5:18 PM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 17:18:25 -0400

They can't make you wear it - coat hanger inspection is about all they can do. Make sure you have your ribbons etc. It's pretty pointless considering how everything moves when we put our uniform jacket on...but that's about all they can do.

Response by SSG Dale London made Jun 12 at 2023 6:49 PM

SSG Dale London — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 18:49:26 -0400

If they are inspecting the uniform, no. You don't have to be wearing a uniform for it to be inspected. But if they are requiring you to wear it during the inspection then yes - this is currently prohibited. My advice is to prepare your uniform to the required standard and talk to your NCO's about the situation. I expect they will be reasonable so long as you are making the effort to ensure you meet the standards.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jun 12 at 2023 8:01 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 20:01:16 -0400

Why cant you be inspected. If there is a scheduled inspections bud you cannot stand formation, you can be reviewed in the orderly room or other place conducive your profile. Any uniform can be expected to include the ones issued for your pregnancy.

You are a Soldier and deserve the respect of that title, therefore you are required to do anything your profile does not prohibit.