Can I still get promoted to SFC with an Article 15 and a GOMOR? If so, what should I be doing?

2020-08-27T22:18:36-04:00

I got an article 15 back in 2012 for DV and a GOMOR back in 2015 for a DUI. How can I overcome this? I just reenlisted indef. I have 13 years in.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2020 10:19 PM

2020-08-27T22:19:39-04:00

The article 15 is in my restricted file but gomor isnt

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2020 10:20 PM

2020-08-27T22:20:16-04:00

If you get retained at the fiscal year QMP board, you shouldn’t have an issue.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Aug 27 at 2020 10:30 PM

2020-08-27T22:30:25-04:00

You say the GOMOR was in 2015 so more than a year has passed and you should have received at least one or more reviews since then so you can petition to have the GOMOR moved to your restricted file.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2020 12:49 AM

2020-08-28T00:49:12-04:00

For starts, do not get any more Article 15s, GOMORs, or DUIs. Not certain what DV means, but if it is domestic violence, you should have been separated, on top of that three years later a DUI? You are lucky that your chain of command did not separate you for patterns of misconduct. Next, you must be the model NCO that you are expected to be. You must work your tail off to ensure your NCOER Senior Rater comments are strong enough for the board to select you. You must be volunteering for the hard tasks, earn an AA, Bachelor's, or Master's degree, get all the additional duties you can. If you have a domestic violence case in your records, the board will be able to see it no matter what.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2020 1:08 AM

2020-08-28T01:08:13-04:00

Your chances of being promoted are pretty slim. I've seen guys as 18 year SSGs that have zero disciplinary issues not be selected. If it's between you and someone withoit a history you know who thet are going to pick, especially in such a small CMF. Your chances are better than they were because QMP boards are no longer a thing with the new centralized promotion system.

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Aug 28 at 2020 2:30 AM

2020-08-28T02:30:05-04:00

I seriously think you will retire as a SSG

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2020 8:25 AM

2020-08-28T08:25:32-04:00

Send me your email and I will forward you a few things that I believe will help you out.

Response by MSgt Neil Greenfield made Aug 28 at 2020 8:41 AM

2020-08-28T08:41:02-04:00

Apply for the WO program.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2020 9:40 AM

2020-08-28T09:40:56-04:00

Yes, it is still possible. I knew an Officer that received a GOMOR as either a SGT or SSG (I can't rightly remember). He was selected and promoted to SFC then he ended up getting a Commission. It's possible. Just gonna take same leg work.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2020 11:27 AM

2020-08-28T11:27:15-04:00

Here are some thoughts. DA Centralized boards (panel members) 'Must' view restricted files. Any negative items in your file must be viewed prior to voting the record. Having said that, the process it to take the total Soldier into account. If you are qualified to continue and your career field needs you to be promoted, you will be. The next time your records are voted you will be able to go to Army Career Tracker and see where you are with relation to your peers. If you are 499 of 500, you might want to prepare to retire as a SSG. On the other hand, if you are in the top third you may consider continuing your service. If you are otherwise a good Soldier (high PT, good education, well enumerated on NCOERs etc.) and I was voting your file I would ding you for the GOMAR and the Article 15, but not so much as to put you below the line (everyone makes mistakes and this is not a zero defect Army). If you are going to continue, I suggest you work on being the best Soldier / leader you can be. Work on your education, your Soldiers and your mission. You want the voting members of the panel to see your file and be Shocked that You ever had an issue and see it / them as an anomaly from the distant past. Also, keep it together. You can't afford anymore negative paperwork. Good luck to you.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Aug 28 at 2020 3:53 PM

2020-08-28T15:53:04-04:00

DV - as in domestic violence? Was there a civil conviction? How are you not Lautenberged?