SPC Private RallyPoint Member6711734<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Honestly don't see why not but I'd rather do it right so CQ doesn't pull it down and throw it away. BAH for an unaccompanied E4 at JBLM is $1518.00 thats taken for this 10x7.8 foot brick box and I CAN'T put a birdhouse on the tree outside my window? Where do I read about policies regarding this? AR 420-1 Army Facilities Managment (Authorization for minor construction projects, Minor construction prohibitions and limitations and each UEPH Subsection) AR 210-50 Housing Managment (Resident Relations, Furnishings, and Construction) do not discuss anything about birdhouses, or anything that birdhouse might fall under. Is there another regulation that might cover something of the sorts? Would be big for morale if I can hang it (already built it).Can I hang a birdhouse outside the barracks?2021-02-01T15:32:40-05:00SPC Private RallyPoint Member6711734<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Honestly don't see why not but I'd rather do it right so CQ doesn't pull it down and throw it away. BAH for an unaccompanied E4 at JBLM is $1518.00 thats taken for this 10x7.8 foot brick box and I CAN'T put a birdhouse on the tree outside my window? Where do I read about policies regarding this? AR 420-1 Army Facilities Managment (Authorization for minor construction projects, Minor construction prohibitions and limitations and each UEPH Subsection) AR 210-50 Housing Managment (Resident Relations, Furnishings, and Construction) do not discuss anything about birdhouses, or anything that birdhouse might fall under. Is there another regulation that might cover something of the sorts? Would be big for morale if I can hang it (already built it).Can I hang a birdhouse outside the barracks?2021-02-01T15:32:40-05:002021-02-01T15:32:40-05:00SSgt Christophe Murphy6711744<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nobody here is going to be able to answer anything pertaining to your specific barracks and policies pertaining to it. I would talk to your Barracks Manager and/or supervisor.Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Feb 1 at 2021 3:35 PM2021-02-01T15:35:55-05:002021-02-01T15:35:55-05:00Sgt Private RallyPoint Member6711752<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You are an E-4 so why are you asking this question on RallyPoint? No one on this site can provide you an answer. As an E-4, you already know that your leadership also called your chain of command is who you go through for the only answer that matters and is also the correct answer.Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2021 3:38 PM2021-02-01T15:38:29-05:002021-02-01T15:38:29-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member6711829<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Nobody takes your BAH, you're not authorized BAH.<br /><br />Do you own the property? No. Do you have a rental agreement that allows you to build on the property? Again, no. <br />Do you really need a regulation to tell you not to build things on property that isn't yours?Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 1 at 2021 4:11 PM2021-02-01T16:11:36-05:002021-02-01T16:11:36-05:00SSG Robert Perrotto6711906<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bottom line up front - if your CoC says no - then its no. You do not get BAH as a single soldier, living in the barracks. What you see on your LES is for accounting purposes, as Barracks are maintained by Government contract, along with the other buildings on the post. Same with your BAS, it goes to providing your meals, whether you eat at the Dfac or not, The meal is provided.Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made Feb 1 at 2021 4:44 PM2021-02-01T16:44:48-05:002021-02-01T16:44:48-05:00CPT Aaron Kletzing6711950<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would consult with a Barracks Lawyer. ;-) jk. To be serious, I would ask your CoC. They would be the ones to make this decision.Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Feb 1 at 2021 5:07 PM2021-02-01T17:07:03-05:002021-02-01T17:07:03-05:00SFC Kelly Fuerhoff6711988<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Soldiers in the barracks don't get BAH. Is this a real profile? Feels like a troll. <br /><br />Also - did you (if real) talk to your command about this? Why would you want any birds around JBLM to come near your barracks window? Are you trying to attract seagulls? Crows?Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Feb 1 at 2021 5:33 PM2021-02-01T17:33:37-05:002021-02-01T17:33:37-05:00Lt Col Jim Coe6712053<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My guess is No. you might ask your first sergeant. Contribute the bird House to the post second hand store, give it to a local grade school, maybe sell it.Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Feb 1 at 2021 5:52 PM2021-02-01T17:52:02-05:002021-02-01T17:52:02-05:00SSG Brian G.6712066<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You need to check with YOUR COC for your area on this. The answers are going to vary by location. Some commanders will not care. For example. <br /><br />Was stationed at Ft Myers and the Command allowed an SM to hang a light catcher from a tree that hung hear the window. Same SM got restationed to Ft McNair and the commander would not allow it. <br /><br />There is no BAH for E-4 staying in the barracks.Response by SSG Brian G. made Feb 1 at 2021 5:59 PM2021-02-01T17:59:04-05:002021-02-01T17:59:04-05:00SGT Robert Wager6712254<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Can you put a birdhouse up? You sure can, if and only if your commander authorizes it. You are mistaking government quarters for rental or privately owned quarters. <br /><br />If Top said he doesn’t know, go find out if you can then he is having some fun with you. Think about looking for prick E7, a box of grid squares.... chem light batteries. <br /><br />Nobody is “taking” your BAH and making you stay in the barracks. It is the opposite, soldiers are given BAH in lieu of living in the barracks.Response by SGT Robert Wager made Feb 1 at 2021 7:07 PM2021-02-01T19:07:55-05:002021-02-01T19:07:55-05:00CSM Darieus ZaGara6712313<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is simple contact the housing management office and ask the question.Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Feb 1 at 2021 7:26 PM2021-02-01T19:26:45-05:002021-02-01T19:26:45-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member6713798<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>put it up, don't say anything. guaranteed that almost no one will even notice it....Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2021 9:30 AM2021-02-02T09:30:56-05:002021-02-02T09:30:56-05:00Sgt Dale Briggs6716888<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I’m sure you’d make the First Sgts day, imagine yourself policing bird shit off the deck in your area for about a week.Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Feb 3 at 2021 11:23 AM2021-02-03T11:23:59-05:002021-02-03T11:23:59-05:00MAJ Ken Landgren6717113<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would contemplate painting the birdhouse to match the tree and unilaterally installing it. I would do it in the dark where nobody could see me, then nobody would know who put it up.Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Feb 3 at 2021 12:59 PM2021-02-03T12:59:57-05:002021-02-03T12:59:57-05:00SFC Casey O'Mally6717720<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There SHOULD be a Barracks SOP. (Likely maintained by FSBI or whatever centralized barracks office is called these days). If it is not addressed in the SOP (which is highly likely), the SOP should ALSO have a proponent (approving authority). That would be who you would have to ask. You would do that be preparing a memo for said individual to sign authorizing it. If said individual signs, it is authorized. If they don't, it ain't. Send the memo through the housing chain (likely your PSG to your 1SG to the centralized office to the proponent, but maybe not).Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Feb 3 at 2021 6:12 PM2021-02-03T18:12:07-05:002021-02-03T18:12:07-05:00SSG Bill McCoy6728553<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you are married, or are a single parent, your BAH shouldn't be taken. I know a JBLM there is no on-base housing for NCO's; but SP4 and below do have barracks, or whatever they call it these days.<br /><br />Birdhouse? Sheesh! Well, hang the thing and see if it causes an issue. It's not like you'd be destroying government property, or making a major build of a structure. I seriously doubt if anyone can find an AR that addresses birdhouses, one way or the other. Really, who will really care; especially if it's in a tree over a grassy area. I have birdhouses around my property, and except for the birdhouse roof, there's no issue of bird droppings! LOL Of course if it's some HUGE birdhouse, that might draw attention like a Purple Martin house. :)Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Feb 7 at 2021 8:01 PM2021-02-07T20:01:14-05:002021-02-07T20:01:14-05:00SGT Gary Tob6842828<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well if you can't conform or want to use common sense, ask permission through the chain of command.Response by SGT Gary Tob made Mar 21 at 2021 10:58 PM2021-03-21T22:58:11-04:002021-03-21T22:58:11-04:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member6847816<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Perhaps the SM is asking for a particular regulation regarding such an issue so they can be prepared when presenting it to their CoC. Obviously if there's a regulation prohibiting it theres no need to waste their own time and that of their CoC. Is it that hard to answer the question? <br /><br />It appears you've done some homework and read regulations. The regulations you mention may not mention birdhouses specifically so it falls on your CoC's interpretation and enforcement of the regulations. In other words, its up to them and I'd be surprised if they want to push such an issue up the CoC. Nor would they want to take the time troubling themselves with typing a memorandum for your permission to hang a birdhouse. <br /><br />I'd say it's a no. The military doesn't like messing with wildlife, even in a positive way. Say some endangered bird takes up residence in your birdhouse. They'll have to vacate the barracks and designate the area a wildlife refuge. I say this jokingly but on a serious note, I've seen training areas shut down due to protected wildlife in the area.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2021 7:29 PM2021-03-23T19:29:25-04:002021-03-23T19:29:25-04:00MSG Willie Selders6848852<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the chain of command cannot answer the question, seek advise from the Garrison IG. I will tell you that the command policy goes far beyond most people's understanding. I know the regulation does not specifically say anything about every situation, but the commander can make a command decision. Also, what comes with birds is the refuse they bring to the picture, and what comes with that is vermin, so the health and welfare will come into effect.Response by MSG Willie Selders made Mar 24 at 2021 7:49 AM2021-03-24T07:49:21-04:002021-03-24T07:49:21-04:00Sgt Dale Briggs7499848<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ask your Company Gunny, lol. Like he’ll give two fucks, if he just shrugs go for it.Response by Sgt Dale Briggs made Jan 27 at 2022 6:53 PM2022-01-27T18:53:59-05:002022-01-27T18:53:59-05:002021-02-01T15:32:40-05:00