Can I be separated if I failed my APFT back in November, but my retest will be beyond the 90 day window?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:14:16 -0500

I failed my APFT back in November. I got a counseling today stating my retest will be in a couple of weeks it also says due to training it will be passed the 90 day window Can separation/chapter still occur?

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jan 30 at 2020 11:17 AM

SGT Ben Keen — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:17:18 -0500

Multiple failures can lead to a separation yes. Why your leadership waited until January to counsel you on something that happened in November blows my mind though. Either way, give it your best.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 11:28 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:28:54 -0500

You're questioning being allowed to have more than 90 days to prepare for your retest???

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 12:53 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:53:20 -0500

Normally if you fail two consecutive record APFT, they can initiate the chapter. But here is the catch 22, it all depends on the chain of command if they want to chapter you or not. I wouldn't chapter you out so easy. You would be doing whichever exercise you are not up to par with on APFT every time you see me. Some chain of command enforce it, while others do so if it deems fit........... Just imagine if 5,000 Soldiers wanted out the military within next 3 to 4 months. All they would have to do is fail 2 record APFT to initiate chapter, but the army would say hell no, losing too many Soldiers, they will all go on special pops until they pass. You understand how the game goes with the military....... add to to the add to........

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 3:20 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 15:20:05 -0500

Just pass it.

Response by SPC Stewart Smith made Jan 30 at 2020 5:53 PM

SPC Stewart Smith — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 17:53:22 -0500

I'm a bit confused here.
Are you saying that it's been 11 weeks, they just told you that you will have a retest in 2 weeks, and that you haven't prepared those previous 11 weeks? Are you worried you'll fail it?

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jan 30 at 2020 6:18 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:18:56 -0500

Yes you can still be chaptered. It is routine to have a retest concurrent with a scheduled periodic APFT on your unit training calendar due to the logistics

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 10:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 22:40:21 -0500

If you are asking this question, that means that you did not take the first APFT failure seriously and thus did not prepare for your upcoming retest. Which is a major failure on your leaderships part. However, as soldiers, we are all accountable for what we do and what we fail to do. You seemed to have failed to prepare yourself for your retest. If I were your chain of command, I would treat your situation as serious as you treated your time to get ready for a retest. Get it together, pass your APFT and move on from this.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2020 10:55 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 10:55:05 -0500

Just to be clear, the 90 day period is not a window, it's the minimum time period between record tests if you fail. That way your command can't give you two back to tests a few weeks apart with the intention to fail you. It could be a year apart if that's when they chose to retest you